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On the word of you guys who play mostly on the internet and for whom I have do respect for, I have bought into FullTilt and am playing two tables at the $1/$2 limit HE and small tourneys and track my results. I got the demo version of Pokertracker, if I can figure out how to use it. I will post my results as I trind to grind something out.

One thing I have noticed as that these low limit internet games seem an awful lot tighter than B&M play, and guys seem to be limping in with big hands like AA or AK. I have yet to play in a real lose game, but I've only played for like 16 hours total.
There are also some donks who are easy to induce to bluff.

I know this all doesnt interest most of you, but I just thought I'd let you know my progress as it were.

best luck
-J

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You make a great point Justin in that while games are different at different sites, there are major flaws with the game play that can taken advantage of.

The small challenge is to find out what it is. It shouldn't take too long though to find a style that takes advantage.

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JJNJustin
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2.5 years of 2+2 and your'e up to 2 whole tables of 1/2. Solid.

All dissing aside, your observation that online games are tougher then their B&M counterparts is correct.

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Party Poker has looser games in general. Pacific Poker has some great games too but you can't multitable there.

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2.5 years of 2+2 and your'e up to 2 whole tables of 1/2. Solid.


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Not everyone has a desire to read 2+2 at every waking moment and play a zillion hands of online poker a year.

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2.5 years of 2+2 and your'e up to 2 whole tables of 1/2. Solid.

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Sin... scan thru his other forum posts... he's a B&M player having some trouble adjusting to the online world [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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2.5 years of 2+2 and your'e up to 2 whole tables of 1/2. Solid.


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Relax man. If you have never played online it is probably an adjustment/learning process no matter how much you know about poker. I have never played live, and if I went to a Casino I would go to the lowest level even if I assume I have the skill to beat much higher limits.

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Initial results: after roughly 30 hours playing two $1/$2 tables and various sitngoes, I'm up about $200.

I hope it lasts. knock on wood.

thank guys and good luck
-J

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Initial results: after roughly 30 hours playing two $1/$2 tables and various sitngoes, I'm up about $200.

I hope it lasts. knock on wood.

thank guys and good luck
-J

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Better than me. I've had 6 years of 2+2 and am a loser at full tilt.

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why full tilt? very tough site.

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why full tilt? very tough site.

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I think the bast*rds have it in for me.

Actually, just been cold-decked there that's all. Bad run. Gave it up and moved on.

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that is about 3.5BB/100 hands. Very good for full tilt, even at 1/2. I don't think this adjustment is going to be much of a problem for you.

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I think the bast*rds have it in for me.

Actually, just been cold-decked there that's all. Bad run. Gave it up and moved on.

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was asking the OP. but that was my point. Full tilt is a tough site to beat.

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I think the bast*rds have it in for me.

Actually, just been cold-decked there that's all. Bad run. Gave it up and moved on.

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I've also never had a good run there. Going to finish clearing the rest of my $300 reload, then going to add it to the list of sites that I won't play at. If they ever get enough traffic to the point where they consistently have four 5/10 games going, then maybe I'll consider going back. Right now, game selection is just too limited at 5/10, and even 3/6 a lot of the time.

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I'm getting dealt monsters left and right, today. It's almost ridiculous. Them holding up is another story.

Why Tilt? Because Party gives me bad karma.

all in all, I think it's too good to be true. When and if I continue winning, I will post.

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While traffic is light most of the day, there are times when the games at 15-30 and up are both shorthanded and good. Mostly weak-tighties.

The No Limit games can be tough at times.

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ive been playing their 25nl and its retardedly tight for what it is. they must have read to play phils top 10 or something...its pretty boring.

rj

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not much action on full tilt.

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In response to all the posts commenting on the difficulty of FTP, the smaller stakes games are pretty tough, but at $8/$16 and up there are some horrible regulars.

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Agreed that FTP is tough. I played some micro limits and I was getting so much respect, people were folding to 2.5x the BB UTG. Almost every time.

I was kinda hoping that after the WSOP TV coverage, maybe everyone would see how deep Ivey got and some fish would flock over to FTP.

Hey, I can dream can't I?

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Intially (first 1000 hands)i cleaned house, but jesus now sitting on 20k hands there and down 200bb, has me scatching my head. I wish paradise had some sort of RB.

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i personally like the site and have done very well there
bought in for 1K got it up to 7K and still havent received 1st rakeback money (monthly), cleared 70% of $600 bonus and like playing w/ pros

dont find the site any more difficult than others

just my 2 cents

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Well, just to keep in touch, I've been playing $1-$2 for about a week now, and am up $400. I would have been up more but I took a shot at $2-$4 today and played like a complete dimwhit.

I'm starting to understand why online poker is so much tougher than casino play. With you guys multitabling 4 tables, you can generate the same win rate at much lower stakes than you would play at the casino. Anyone who doesnt realize this is in for a rude awakening when they step into online play.

Overall I find the online play to be much tighter (this is not surprising, due to the lack of wait time between hands) and a little more aggressive. I am still pondering how I might adjust my own style to take advantage of these tendancies, but for the most part I am just trying to grind out a decent stake.

I can say I almost completely believe online poker is not rigged, at least at Full Tilt Poker.com. The hands play out like you would expect in the casino, for the most part, except for like maybe 5 strange hands I can recall in the couple thousand I have played.

I also have been quite humbled, as amassing this many hands alone with my computer really lets me reflect on what I'm doing and what I'm doing right and wrong.

I will continue to post my results as they arise.

peace and good luck
-J

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Overall I find the online play to be much tighter (this is not surprising, due to the lack of wait time between hands) and a little more aggressive. I am still pondering how I might adjust my own style to take advantage of these tendancies, but for the most part I am just trying to grind out a decent stake.

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You're playing at one of the tightest sites for low limits. If you're looking for looser games, you might want to check out a different site. There are definitely alternatives out there that have better 1/2 games and are more suitable for clearing bonuses at the 1/2 level.

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I was kinda hoping that after the WSOP TV coverage, maybe everyone would see how deep Ivey got and some fish would flock over to FTP.


the fish are more likely to avoid playing pros.

this is their inherent marketing paradigm that i have always considered 100% flawed.

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the fish are more likely to avoid playing pros.

this is their inherent marketing paradigm that i have always considered 100% flawed.

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I don't know if that's the case though. A couple months ago I was watching Ivey play the high stakes NL game, and after being asked by one of the observers, he agreed to sit down at an empty 1/2 NL table. Within a minute of him sitting down, the table had filled and there were 40 people on the waiting list.

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I was kinda hoping that after the WSOP TV coverage, maybe everyone would see how deep Ivey got and some fish would flock over to FTP.


the fish are more likely to avoid playing pros.

this is their inherent marketing paradigm that i have always considered 100% flawed.

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They might avoid playing at the same table.... but not the same site.... Full tilt is still a bit on the smaller side, but they are one of the fastest growing sites (percentage wise).

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I was kinda hoping that after the WSOP TV coverage, maybe everyone would see how deep Ivey got and some fish would flock over to FTP.


the fish are more likely to avoid playing pros.

this is their inherent marketing paradigm that i have always considered 100% flawed.

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I don't find this to be true at all. The fishiest games on FTP come up when a pro sits down. I've seen the average VPIP on a 9 handed $15/$30 table (-myself and the pro) at 40% on many occassions, sometimes more.

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I was kinda hoping that after the WSOP TV coverage, maybe everyone would see how deep Ivey got and some fish would flock over to FTP.




the fish are more likely to avoid playing pros.

this is their inherent marketing paradigm that i have always considered 100% flawed.

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They might avoid playing at the same table.... but not the same site.... Full tilt is still a bit on the smaller side, but they are one of the fastest growing sites (percentage wise).

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i hear what all of you are saying, but the fact that the site is still dead after so long implies differently IMHO. the holdem lobby is incredibly sparse. kinda like all the sites in the old days when there were far fewer players online.

i think people give it a shot, run into good to great players, go broke, and never return.

the software and GUI are great and with the $$ they have spent on marketing, they should be #3 site.

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I was kinda hoping that after the WSOP TV coverage, maybe everyone would see how deep Ivey got and some fish would flock over to FTP.


the fish are more likely to avoid playing pros.

this is their inherent marketing paradigm that i have always considered 100% flawed.

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I don't find this to be true at all. The fishiest games on FTP come up when a pro sits down. I've seen the average VPIP on a 9 handed $15/$30 table (-myself and the pro) at 40% on many occassions, sometimes more.

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one or two fishy 15-30's (sometimes None) does not a successful site make.

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Today was the day I've been waiting for. I couldnt make any hand hold up. I got to my peak winnings of $600 playing $1/$2 and starting to come down today. The quick drop kind of got me uneasy so I decided to cash out.

I have experienced the same thing on other websites. A quick good run when you first buy in and then a quick downslide. I dont feel like "waiting to see" if I lose the rest of my earnings.

Meanwhile, I need a new focus for my game. I'm going to look for someone to take lessons from or tutor me.

-peace
-best of luck

-J