Official Guide to Party Poker Rakeback
 

Party Poker DOES NOT officially "allow" rakeback. Okay, now that that is out of the way, Party Poker DOES WANT you (the player) to get rakeback. This is why individual trackers are enabled once again.

Many affiliates (the majority of which I am speaking of are non rb affiliates) would much rather see these trackers disabled because it virtually eliminates the possiblity of rakeback altogether.

Rackback is something Party can easily cease and it has done so in the past. However, it is a researchable fact, that Party has claimed that 10% of players contribute 70% of the sites profit. We all know who those players are and Party wants to keep them and rakeback is the way to do so.

So heres how to get your fair share:

Go to rakerebatereview (they advertise here in this forum). Navigate to their "Request Offers" forum. I think its fairly obvious that you will know what to do next.

Compare the many PM offers you will recieve. Don't simply choose the highest %. Finding an affiliate who is reputable by inquiring here and there will probably be more valuable in the long run. Whatever you do, don't go with
BusterStacks.

If you already have an existing Party account, then do the following. Cash out as many beanies and shirts as you have Reward Points for(these come in handy for waxing the new car you will be buying with your rake). Email support and "permantly close" your existing account because "you are suddenly parananoid about the legality of gambling online in your jurisdiction". You are allowed to close an account, it does not violate any T&C.

I suggest using a little discretion in waiting to open your new account, I chose 3 days, but you can do it immediately if you want. There really is no rule violations with any of this. Just make sure the first account closure has gone through before opening a second account. You are only allowed one account per person. Do not break this rule.

Try to deposit to your new account with Neteller. It didnt work right away for me, but some have had no problem, or so they say. Whatever. I just called Dikshette and told her "my wife freaked out and made me close my account because the whole family was going to prison because of my illegal gambling, but now her three days of bleeding are over and its all good again. I am eager to get back to playing poker." She says "no problem" and my new account is now Neteller approved (This won't work if you live in Maryland, sorry).

Now that youre back in action, email the Party bonus line [email protected], and negotiate your VIP deal. Since I had a new account, they told me there wasnt an offer to extend, but they will revisit me sometime in November.

Enjoy!

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The 10/70 has nothing to do with rakeback... its just the nature of the business!

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Isn't it plausible that they are once again pretending to be for rake back with the intent to smack down every affiliate that is telling people to close their previous accounts. The whole relationship still seems quite insecure to me.

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That's why I would go for a smaller affiliate. The big ones are too risky to get tracked don by Party. And they won't risk giving "RB" unless maybe when someone creates big chunks of MGR.

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Posts like this are why rakeback gets shut down. I would suggest the admins auto delete anything like this. Most of the poeple here dont need your help and dont want this posted on the forum right now.

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agreed. my god, you people need to learn some discretion. D I S C R E T I O N.

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So heres how to get your fair share:


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I will be thanking you especially for these pieces of information that will be very helpful to us at the website of PartyPoker to head off rakeback future attempts.

It is concerned customers as you who makes it possible for our families to be fed many times and for me to have many wives.

Please do not disclose your password to anyone who claims to represent PartyPoker.

Sincerely,

Punjab

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Perhaps you have missed the entire point of the thread. Party does not care if players recieve rakeback. Party can end all rakeback with the flip of a bit. It has done so before. They re-enabled individual trackers so affiliates could offer rakeback and for that reason only. For reasons beat to death in this forum, Party does not want to endorse or allow AFFILIATES to advertise rakeback. This thread, and any like it, are absolutely no threat to Party or rakeback. The only people who this type of post threatens are those affiliates who do not wish to offer rakeback.

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Most of the poeple here dont need your help and dont want this posted on the forum right now

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If this was true, I would not have recieved about two dozen PM's asking for more details about the thread so far. I'm sorry to everyone that had some questions, but I don't have the knowledge or time to answer them all. I think it's fairly clear what to do. Im not an affiliate, nor would I feel comfortable about recomending one at this point in time either. Use good judgement, but if things don't work out, just stop playing and restart the process. There is no risk in having your money confiscated or losing your "privelage" to play at Party. They want you as a player.

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Perhaps you missed my point. Posts like this kill rakeback. You are not someone who has discovered something that anyone who reads this forum and has a lick of sense cant find out for themselves. You are a big mouth who is satsfying his ego at the possible expense of other people, literally.

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You are not someone who has discovered something that anyone who reads this forum and has a lick of sense cant find out for themselves

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Then I guess its good that Party doesnt read this forum nor have a lick of sense. Reread the OP and try to comprehend this time. Rakeback at Party is not going anywhere. Its not some secret that Party doesnt know about and now becaue of this or the next post they are going to be shocked to discover.

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Rakeback at Party is not going anywhere.

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All they have to do is shut down the trackers and it is dead. Yes there are pain in the ass temporary ways around this but it would be dead for most people who dont want to deal with the crap of getting around it. They have done it before and if people dont use common sense then they will again.

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All they have to do is shut down the trackers and it is dead.

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You finally picked up on what I wrote.

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They have done it before and if people dont use common sense then they will again.

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Nope. Guess you really don't get it after all. The ONLY reason individual trackers were enabled was so rakeback could be given. Party realized the error of their ways and fixed it.

THEY WANT RAKEBACK! Got it now? The only people who will lose rakeback are AFFILIATES who OPENLY advertise their offers or try to recruit existing players from other affiliates. Comprende?

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All I can say is that you are a little more confident in this system and party's unofficial position than I am. I still see this as very shaky and that party is still on the fence about this. I would rather wait 2 months until we knew everything was ok before posts like this are made. I have no problem with your post other than the closing accounts... just the timing.

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Anyone who thinks the poker rooms aren't reading messages on 2+2 is simply being naive!

The problem with OPs post is that he is advocating that people close old accounts and create new accounts under a new affiliate....

If everyone did this, the cost would be over $100 million+ in extra affiliate fees paid by Party (this year). Party would not be happy! Additionally, all the affiliates that are actually driving new players to Party would be pissed, because they are losing revenue as well. Double wammy this makes Party and the Affiliates not happy!

Its posts like this that tell people its no big deal to do this that WILL cause more drastic actions by Party!!!

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100 million+ in extra affiliate fees paid by Party (this year).

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Wow, if the 30% they pay to affiliates is this much, I wonder how much the 70% of that extra rake they keep is?

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Wow, if the 30% they pay to affiliates is this much, I wonder how much the 70% of that extra rake they keep is?

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Note, I said EXTRA, and my estimate was on the conservative side!

Party will rake in close to $1 Billion this year [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Link to 3rd Qtr financials

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I don't see how everyone is finding party rakeback so easily, I've talked to several affiliates that I have accounts with and trust, and they simply are not offering it. I wish it would just fall into my lap, but I don't see that happenning.

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I think that is because affiliates do not want to draw attention to themselves. So they are only signing up people that are high mgr, and people they trust to not go blabbing about where they get their rakeback. It use to be that an affiliate would have to sell himself/herself to you. But now it's the other way around.

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I am new at this, but why do you have to sing up with an affiliate if you are just going to ask Party for a deal when you sing up? What is the affiliate doing for you.

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Probably giving you rakeback also, and it's a lot better than that garbage Party gives out.

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It use to be that an affiliate would have to sell himself/herself to you. But now it's the other way around.

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I don't see how everyone is finding party rakeback so easily, I've talked to several affiliates that I have accounts with and trust, and they simply are not offering it. I wish it would just fall into my lap, but I don't see that happenning.

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LMAO I feel the same way. I'm about to just sign my brother up.

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Thanks for posting...but I am a little confused!

Are you suggesting that I should use an affiliate to open a new account for rakeback at PP? Or are you suggesting that I open an account directly through PP and then call to negotiate a rakeback deal with them directly?

Thanks again!

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and what is the best method to go and find an affiliate as i'm sure no one who has got a good rakeback deal at party would want to divulge their source ?

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and what is the best method to go and find an affiliate as i'm sure no one who has got a good rakeback deal at party would want to divulge their source ?

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Go to RakeRebateReview , create an account, go to the rakebake forums, then go to the request offers from affiliates. Check your PMs on RRR and then research and check references.

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All I can say is that you are a little more confident in this system and party's unofficial position than I am. I still see this as very shaky and that party is still on the fence about this. I would rather wait 2 months until we knew everything was ok before posts like this are made. I have no problem with your post other than the closing accounts... just the timing.

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This had been my main concern as well, but even if my new account with RB gets cutoff from rakeback in two months it will have been well worth the trouble (ie. those two months of high % rakeback outweight the lost time of making a new account).

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http://www.georgettesworld.com/main/lukeobitroopers.jpg
"There is no rakeback on Party"

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For whatever it may be worth, one mid-sized affiliate is currently telling its customers that Party has recently decided and is currently communicating its position on rakeback to affiliates and that they (the affiliate) expects to make an offer to its players Tuesday (tomorrow) in line with the new policy. If this isn't smoke (if it is, I hope and trust that someone here will point it out), it sounds like Party has indeed given the green light to rakeback like the OP says.

At the same time, I don't see the harm in waiting a few days/weeks for things to settle down.

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"Then I guess its good that Party doesnt read this forum nor have a lick of sense."

They do, and they read at rakerebatereview too... enjoy!

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If Party thinks about things logically, they will see how rakeback for the most part helps them, not hurt. Rakeback to me is nothing more than an incentive to put in more hours playing... more than enough to compensate for the rake Party loses to an affiliate. Rakeback not only keeps Party's most profitable playerbase happy, but if the majority of RB players are like me, it actually increases their profits.

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http://www.georgettesworld.com/main/lukeobitroopers.jpg
"There is no rakeback on Party"

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n1

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I received the same email. I believe they were listed on rakebatereview as being legit so I assume it's true.

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"I don't see how everyone is finding party rakeback so easily, I've talked to several affiliates that I have accounts with and trust, and they simply are not offering it."

Same here. Result I haven't played on Party since the break up.

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Although i talked to pay-pro twice by phone i still canno deposit with neteller.. They were saying that there is no way to use this Neteller even though my old party account is closed..They said that i can cash out to it though (!!). Anyone managed to "connect" his Neteller with his new party account send me a PM if you dont mind.

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For whatever it may be worth, one mid-sized affiliate is currently telling its customers that Party has recently decided and is currently communicating its position on rakeback to affiliates and that they (the affiliate) expects to make an offer to its players Tuesday (tomorrow) in line with the new policy.

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Here we go again.

Rinse and repeat.

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Patience, Patience, Patience!!!

Party is currently doing a major datamining/analysis of their player data... this will benefit the players!

Patience!!!

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how do you nknow that?

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how do you nknow that?

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Research, Research, Research!! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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If Party thinks about things logically, they will see how rakeback for the most part helps them, not hurt. Rakeback to me is nothing more than an incentive to put in more hours playing... more than enough to compensate for the rake Party loses to an affiliate. Rakeback not only keeps Party's most profitable playerbase happy, but if the majority of RB players are like me, it actually increases their profits.

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I'm pretty much the same way. When I'm playing on a table, I'm like "hmmm, I'm getting $x per hand and I just continue to keep playing. When I'm playing party these days it's like "ok I'm getting nothing per hand" and will just log off when I feel like it. There's not too much incentive to play on. For the first time ever I've actually looked for other sites to play at like UB, prima, interpoker etc. I never had the desire to go elsewhere before, now it just makes me sick that I'm actually playing at party to be honest.