Too Standard?
 

Bu is 25/19 after about 50 hands, he has been playing a a bit passive on flop and aggro on turn. Co is 30/12 after the same. I'm playing under a new sn, and have been tight and showing only winners so far.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (7.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

Re: Too Standard?
 

why didn't u lead the turn?

Re: Too Standard?
 

I play 2/4 and I stumbled into the mid high forum. I don't understand the turn check, unless you intend to c/r

Re: Too Standard?
 

I thought that if he had aa or kk or qq he would probably just call the flop once the other player had folded, in order to raise me on the turn. If I was ahead, he had six outs and wasn't folding. If I bet and got raised, I would probably have to fold (neither option would be good, cause he would probably bluff around the correct amount). If he bets a hand that's behind then the result is the same as me betting and him calling. If he's ahead I save one bet. All that being said, I'm still not sure about the decision.

Re: Too Standard?
 

bet the turn. you do NOT want to give a free card to overcards. what are you going to do on the river if he has AQ? Probably give the pot away. with 99, you are very vulnerable to overcards. you might cost yourself a bet when you are behind, but you are costing yourself a rather large pot those times you are ahead. Please, lead the turn.

Re: Too Standard?
 

He is calling the turn with overs, not folding.

Re: Too Standard?
 

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He is calling the turn with overs, not folding.

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Is that a problem if your two choices are he calls for a bet, or he gets a free river?

Re: Too Standard?
 

If he was folding overs on the turn, not betting would be a much bigger mistake, assuming not betting is a mistake. It a huge difference in terms of EV.

What should I do if I bet and get raised on the turn?

Re: Too Standard?
 

I'm now thinking that it is best to check against a good known player and bet against, a weak player, which was the case here. Still, I don't know what I would do with a turn raise ... thoughts?

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What should I do if I bet and get raised on the turn?

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err nm didnt see preflop action. its a super easy call down if you get raised.

Re: Too Standard?
 

I'd bet the turn. Sure, it's no fun to get raised, but it's even less fun to give a free card when you have the best hand. Welcome to the joy that is being out of position vs an aggressive opponent...

my 2 cents.
eric

Re: Too Standard?
 

Ha, that's exactly it.

Re: Too Standard?
 

You need to lead the turn here and see what he does.

sure getting raised on the turn will suck and this is where reads will come into play.

Like is villain the type that likes to wait until the Turn to raise AA-KK.

If so I could lay down to the turn.

But if villain is also capable of raising AK here for free showdown or hopes to hit putting you on a medium pair? Then it's an easy call.

But since you have no reads I think you should call this down and put a note of him either waiting to raise AA-KK on the turn or popping you with AK on the turn so that next times your in this spot with him you will know what to do [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Can't give free card on turn, you want him to pay to draw for those 6 outs!!!!!

Re: Too Standard?
 

You say he's aggro on the turn, so you don't fold if you bet the turn and he raises. I don't like to let him draw for free here if he's got overcards and it's pretty sweet if he raises you with a 6-out draw.

Re: Too Standard?
 

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its a super easy call down if you get raised.

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Of course. You told us the dude is aggro on the turn, why would this even be a question here?

Re: Too Standard?
 

Bet the turn. Always.