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BIG CHEESE 10-21-2005 12:38 PM

no fold-em holdem
 
I play in a weakly tournament 30$ buy in the blind start at 5/10 players start with 1700 in chips a raise of 100 is a sure way to get in to a fammily pot im constantly getting drawn out on and im pulling my hair out. tight agressive just isnt working here please help!

Slow Play Ray 10-21-2005 02:42 PM

Re: no fold-em holdem
 
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weakly tournament

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pun intended?

JimHammer 10-21-2005 06:03 PM

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I play in a weekly tournament. 30$ buy in and the blinds start at 5/10. Players start with 1700 in chips. A raise of 100 is a sure way to get into a family pot. I'm constantly getting drawn out on and I'm pulling my hair out. Tight-aggressive just isn't working here. Please help!

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FYP

Maybe some punctuation will get you some more replies.

EStreet20 10-21-2005 06:34 PM

Re: no fold-em holdem
 
Cheeeeeeese. Didn't we lock you in the dumpster once?

10-21-2005 08:10 PM

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I play in a weekly tournament. 30$ buy in and the blinds start at 5/10. Players start with 1700 in chips. A raise of 100 is a sure way to get into a family pot. I'm constantly getting drawn out on and I'm pulling my hair out. Tight-aggressive just isn't working here. Please help!

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FYP

Maybe some punctuation will get you some more replies.

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I speak jive:

I play in a weekly tournament with a 30$ buy in. The blinds start at 5/10 and the players start with T1700. A raise of 100 doesn't chase the donkeys out and I'm constantly getting drawn out on. I'm pulling my hair out. Tight/Agressive just isn't working here, please help!

Scotty O 10-21-2005 08:41 PM

Re: no fold-em holdem
 
Wait until the blinds get higher. Play top 5 (maybe 10) hands until the 3rd-5th level. They will start folding then.

10-21-2005 09:49 PM

Re: no fold-em holdem
 
if a raise of 100 which is just 17 % of their stacks don't chase out the donkeys, then try raising it up a bit more. and wouldn't you want them calling you when they have garbage cards when you have aces? you come out ahead in the long run against players like that. if they are complete donks, don't try to bluff them and choose your spots to make a move wisely.

John Bedtelyon 10-22-2005 01:57 AM

Re: no fold-em holdem
 
Just keep playing tight, sticking to the top tens or maybe a few more hands in late position.

That's a gross overbet so I'd shy away from playing anything aggressively except QQ KK AA AK, maybe jacks. If a 9x big blind raise doesn't chase the donks away, don't try to chase the donks away. Wait until you can't be beat then make the bets.

Don't try any fancy moves, don't bluff, don't try to play the players. Play your two cards, win the best hand and make the money.

I'd love to be in this game [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

JMB

10-23-2005 03:25 AM

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Cheeeeeeese. Didn't we lock you in the dumpster once?

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I got out.

lighterjobs 10-23-2005 03:41 AM

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Cheeeeeeese. Didn't we lock you in the dumpster once?

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I got out.

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cool, man.

nuclear500 10-23-2005 12:33 PM

Re: no fold-em holdem
 
So you're starting with 170BB. You have loads and loads of time to wait for the hands unless blinds are going up like every 10 minutes.

Don't feel you have to play because everyone else is. If they're doing that, they aren't paying attention to the fact you aren't playing.


But as for advice? I'd be more loose in late position, you'll have the donkfield in front of you and when you hit that crazy flop of 557 with your 75s, you'll get the value you expect.

Push more often with two pair, trips, etc. Do not try to get greedy. Make someone else make a huge mistake.

RoyalLance 10-23-2005 08:46 PM

Re: no fold-em holdem
 
Put me in your game and I will show you how it's done.

beekeeper 10-24-2005 02:12 PM

Re: no fold-em holdem
 
You might also try posting this question on the beginners forum. During the summer there were many posts similar to this (including one from me).

Fortunately for you, as a previous poster said, your starting stack relative to the blinds is favorable. From experience I would say a few things:

(1) Don't try to bet/raise anyone out of the pot. It will never work--any bet, and I mean ANY, will be viewed as a pot sweetener.

(2) While the blinds are low, play more hands that can become Big Hands--straight or flush possibilities--when you have position. But be prepared to let them go if the flop does not improve you.

(3) Even though it seems like those around you will play anything all the way to the showdown, don't bank on it. You still have to read the board and let weaker hands go rather than lose all your chips.

(4) Chip stack management will get you further than fancy play. Manage your stack and let the other gamblers knock themselves out, then when you are in the money or close, begin to make your own moves.

(5)When you flop the nuts are a very good hand, value bet value bet value bet!

10-24-2005 11:03 PM

Re: no fold-em holdem
 
I play against a good mixture of complete maniacs and calling stations, about once a month (lucky me!). Beekeepers post hits the nail right on the head. That's the same way I play those crazy tournaments. Playing good drawing hands cheaply, in late position and when the blinds are small, could pay off big.

Some good hands for this strategy would be: Axs, Kxs, suited
connectors, suited one gappers, higher suited 2 gappers, like KTs Q9s J8s, offsuit connectors, and any pocket pair.
Even with these modest starting hands, you are still playing much tighter than the donkeys.

If my stack dwindles down to less than 30 big blinds, I will slow down on this strategy.

Although the tournament I play in is weakly, I wish it was weekly!


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