bay101 40-80 3 handed pot with tommy angelo
 

*note, i have never met tommy angelo before, but i assumed this guy was tommy angelo because what other tommy plays high stakes games at bay101 and everyone refers to as a rock?

**note: i did not converse with tommy and i'm pretty sure he doesn't know who i am.

***note: i forgot the exact cards on the flop and turn, so the texture may be off, which may make this play seem worse or better than it is.



must move 40/80 game last night at bay101.

a loose aggro asian dude who has recently talked about how much he tilts when playing online poker openraises in late position. this means he has two cards he thinks is worth stealing with.

i 3-bet in the sb with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. tommy coldcalls in the bb and this catches my eye immediately. what also catches my eye is that the asian guy is shortstacked and will likely be all in this hand. he calls too.

flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

i check. tommy checks. asian guy bets. i call. tommy calls.

turn: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

i check. tommy checks. asian guy bets (leaving himself with only two chips left). i raise.

too obvious?

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http://www.tommyangelo.com/fadedphoto.jpg

i believe that's his picture

i'd think that you were trying to isolate this guy with some crappy hand here (pocket pair/ace high), but i would need cards to actually respond.

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Why didn't you raise the flop? Too obvious? Given that he doesn't know who you are, perhaps it's not....

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what do you put tommy on? the only hands that make sense to me are 77, 99 and AQo, i dont think he will fold those hands to an obvious turn play like you made.

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what do you put tommy on? the only hands that make sense to me are 77, 99 and AQo, i dont think he will fold those hands to an obvious turn play like you made.

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Even if you are suspicious that CDC is capable of raising light to isolate the all-in, wouldn't you fold AQ here facing two cold?

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since tommy called in the bb he has a monster hand. AK minimum. it's okay to just give up on the turn. other guy may have something too. maybe i play too weak though.

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maybe i play too weak though.

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lie of the year.

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This might get a lot of criticism but I think you either bet the flop, check raise the flop or check fold the flop. In that order. Check raising the turn in my opinion is in this situation a panic play with a mediocre hodling at this point.

Vince

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i check. tommy checks. asian guy bets (leaving himself with only two chips left). i raise.

too obvious?

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Sorta. But if Tommy had a big PP you would've heard about it by now. He probably has AK AQ, and once you knock him out you're probably drawing live against whatever asian guy holds, if anything. I like it.

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betting the flop is the worst possible play. How are you gonna get tommy's better hand out if you bet the flop?

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Chris, do you get hard ons from ditting in line ups with stupidly strong players? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Check raising the turn in my opinion is in this situation a panic play with a mediocre hodling at this point.

Vince

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**note: i did not converse with tommy and i'm pretty sure he doesn't know who i am.

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your first and biggest mistake. the value you get from hiding your identity is way less than the life/entertainment value of having a conversation with tommy. assuming you're a good player, you don't pick up much here anyway, since an observant player will find this out soon enough. Also, if he knows who you are, he may be inclined to bust out the wind up police car after you call down with ace high on this hand.

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i check. tommy checks. asian guy bets. i call. tommy calls.

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why no checkraise here? I'm assuming, given how you profile the asian guy, you're going to the river anyway (if you can get heads up-with a third party interested in the pot, a naked ace high might not be as golden). I don't think Tommy's calling two cold on the flop with nothing, so, if he can call two cold here you can shut down on the turn if it blanks off and save yourself some bets. makes the more expensive streets more easily played, I think.

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I like bet-3 betting this flop. If tommy's still there, then suck out.

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i check. tommy checks. asian guy bets (leaving himself with only two chips left). i raise.

too obvious?

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Sorta. But if Tommy had a big PP you would've heard about it by now.

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Are we thinking about the same Tommy?

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I miss the police car. Good stuff.