Typical situation in these typical times...
Villain has reasonable 6-max stats, 34/15/1.9 over 60 hands and has done nothing out of the ordinary so far.
Ultimate Bet 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (7.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero ... What's a good line here? |
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I think I'll call and raise the turn here, but 3betting now isn't bad.
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call flop, call turn lead, raise river if no scare card has come.
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Call and raise el turn.
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Call it and raise any turn minus ace. Or king.
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Call it and raise any turn minus ace. Or king. [/ QUOTE ] It's the A's, 9's, and [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s that worry us most. |
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[ QUOTE ] Call it and raise any turn minus ace. Or king. [/ QUOTE ] It's the A's, 9's, and [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s that worry us most. [/ QUOTE ] See Preflop part of hand. I missed the raise/3-bet as well. Originally had 9's in my post hence the edit [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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I think I'll call and raise the turn here, but 3betting now isn't bad. [/ QUOTE ] Well I feel like these are my two options. Calling down sucks. I don't like waiting until the river to raise because we give away too many cheap cards on an already semi-scary board, and I don't know if unimproved overs or A9/K9 are going to bet the river for me. In general, my desire to not give away cheap cards really makes me want to raise right now. But I feel like 3-betting this flop just screams "I have an overpair!", and that I'm going to get capped (or turn check-raised) by hands like AA/KK/99/etc. Lesser hands are just going to fold or call down (when they would've probably bet/called a blank on the turn). So either I lose some value there, or I just lose more money if I'm behind. Still not sure, but I'm thinking the call-the-flop/raise-the-turn line looks a bit better... |
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What do you do if 3 bet on the turn?
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call flop raise turn
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In most tight shorthanded games, I don't want my opponent to think that he can c/r the flop, and I'll give him a good look at the turn and maybe even a look at the river. I think you should 3-bet this flop with a good hand so that you can also 3-bet this flop with AK when the situation arises. If he 4-bets the flop, I call down unless the 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] falls.
Now, if he lead-bet into you on the flop, I think you are more justified in waiting for the turn to raise. |
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In most tight shorthanded games, I don't want my opponent to think that he can c/r the flop, and I'll give him a good look at the turn and maybe even a look at the river. I think you should 3-bet this flop with a good hand so that you can also 3-bet this flop with AK when the situation arises. [/ QUOTE ] This is pretty intriguing, but I'm having a hard time understanding. How does him check-raising give him a "good look" at the turn and river? Wouldn't he get that by just check-calling? Do you think that he thinks he might be able to get the turn checked through if he check-raises now? And I'm trying to think of a good situation to 3-bet this flop with AK and I'm not finding it (unless it's A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]). |
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I think that A9 is in most players range of hands in this situation. It's just one of many possible hands, but it's a lot more likely than AT given the action.
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What would he have raised UTG but not capped to a reraise?
88-JJ seems likely, with a possible AQ/AK. What would he raise this flop with? The same pairs, or AQ/AK with 1 or 2 hearts. I'd reraise, then call down if he caps it. |
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