Your most hated flop?
 

I hate Q32 rainbow. Shudder everytime it comes out. Bad memories off this one. Whats yours?

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It's pretty beautiful if you're holding QQ. Not so much if it's AKs.

I personally hate trips of any kind that don't give me quads.

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AKQ.

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AKQ.

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that or any monotone flop. a monotone flop means either i flopped a flush and everyone folds, i flopped a flush and someone draws to a bigger flush or i flopped a set and the board never pairs [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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AKQ.

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that or any monotone flop. a monotone flop means either i flopped a flush and everyone folds, i flopped a flush and someone draws to a bigger flush or i flopped a set and the board never pairs [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I hate the AKQ flop when your holding Ax out of position. You bet out, and it gets raised.

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QJT is a nightmare for a flopstealer such as myself. I press fold and click no when I am asked if I want to check.

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Kind of a funny story. Playing 80/160 at the Bay I took a prop bet with this guy sitting next to me that the flop would not come all paint. If it did, I paid him $2k. If it didn't, he paid me $20. This went on for a few hours and he ended up dropping maybe ~$1400 to me before finally crying uncle. Two flops later: KKJ. The flop after that: KQJ. The table went nuts.

GoT

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why would you make a prop bet in which you have virtually no edge? (.10 a bet i figure???)

increase the amount of gamble in the game?

anyways i guess it doesnt really matter, cool story.

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why would you make a prop bet in which you have virtually no edge? (.10 a bet i figure???)

increase the amount of gamble in the game?

anyways i guess it doesnt really matter, cool story.

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He has no edge at all. With p = (12 choose 3) / (52 choose 3) we have

EV = -2000 * p + 20 * (1 - p) = -.1086

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when I'm holding JJ, any flop with Q or K or A on it.

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why would you make a prop bet in which you have virtually no edge? (.10 a bet i figure???)

increase the amount of gamble in the game?

anyways i guess it doesnt really matter, cool story.

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He has no edge at all. With p = (12 choose 3) / (52 choose 3) we have

EV = -2000 * p + 20 * (1 - p) = -.1086

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I believe I have a very slight edge, but ~neutral in essence.

GoT

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I hate Q32 rainbow. Shudder everytime it comes out. Bad memories off this one. Whats yours?

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But those kind of flops are really profitable....

For some reason I keep seeing the flop "666", I think Party is trying to give me subliminal messages about the evils of gambling [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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why would you make a prop bet in which you have virtually no edge? (.10 a bet i figure???)

increase the amount of gamble in the game?

anyways i guess it doesnt really matter, cool story.

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He has no edge at all. With p = (12 choose 3) / (52 choose 3) we have

EV = -2000 * p + 20 * (1 - p) = -.1086

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I believe I have a very slight edge, but ~neutral in essence.

GoT

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next time make him pay you $40

Re: Your most hated flop?
 

789

When I have a big pair and gets raised on this flop, I'm always like..oh ffs not again :/

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Axx in a no limit game, when I have AK in position against a solid player who puts in a big raise on the turn.

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772

You just know some donk has flopped a boat.

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I hate when you bet your big pocket pair and all the same suit comes out on the flop. Example a of clubs and a of hearts in your hand and the flop comes 3 diamonds.

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I hate Q32 rainbow. Shudder everytime it comes out. Bad memories off this one. Whats yours?

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Any A when I hold KK.

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AKQ.

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that or any monotone flop. a monotone flop means either i flopped a flush and everyone folds, i flopped a flush and someone draws to a bigger flush or i flopped a set and the board never pairs [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I hate the AKQ flop when your holding Ax out of position. You bet out, and it gets raised.

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yea i hate not knowing how to play poker too [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Barron

Re: Your most hated flop?
 

KQT with two suited cards when i have AA

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You don't...unless he pays you the $20 for EVERY flop (including the ones where you pay him $2000) -- then you'd have a 9 cent/flop edge.

Otherwise, as proven above, your edge is 19 cent/flop lower than that.

Frame the prop bet instead as paying preflop for every chance to hit $2K.

HOWEVER, I bet that even that prop bet is -EV because shuffling is not 100% random -- cards that were together are at least a little more likely to stay close together &amp; the players throughout each hand are more likely to muck similar cards at similar times than totally different cards at different times.

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Live tournament game

AA and flop commes KK9... I bet and someone goes all in...

Re: Your most hated flop?
 

Two variets

Axx with KK

or KKx with AA

both against large fields.

Re: Your most hated flop?
 

AKQ. Never know where the hell I'm at on this flop.