The Only Interesting Hand I Played Last Night
 

Most Boring Session Ever. The Games are terrible right now.

Commerce 10/20.

Pot is straddled. EP limps, Button ($1700) limps - I ($3800) complete for 3 more chips in SB w K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], BB completes, Straddler checks.

Button is this chick from out of town who has been around for the last few days. Her boyfriend sweats her nonstop - She is not a pro, but from the little I've seen genrelly knows what she is doing - she is unimaginative and average.

So the flop comes J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Checked around.

Turn J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I bet $200. She makes it $600. I push.

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NH - it's likely / possible she would isolate straddler with AJ/TT/JJ (or just put in a real raise with those hands from the button anyway) and JT or 33 checking this INCREDIBLY DRAW HEAVY FLOP is so rare for an unimaginative/good player (esp. given it's 4handed pot) so it seems you're ahead.

Given board texture and stacks it's unclear what hand she has so putting it in now avoids tough river cards and playing the river oop. I like it. She'll call with QJ, too. (Or if somehow she has J9 or J8, but not that likely)

Im kinda wondering what the hell she has here, her line doesnt really make sense for alot of hands.

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Her boyfriend sweats her nonstop

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Wow, what a tool.

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Seems hard to believe she checks a set or top two when checked to in a 4 handed pot on that draw heavy board.

Would she check the flop with AJ here? QJ, J9s, J8s?

Would she semi-bluff the turn?

I'm having a hard time putting her on a hand that beats you or a hand that will call this raise when behind.

However, if you think that she might have checked worse Js behind on the flop, then I don't think she can get away from them now.

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I'm having a hard time putting her on a hand that beats you.


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A misplayed J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is a possibility.

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I'm having a hard time putting her on a hand that beats you.


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A misplayed J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is a possibility.

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live poker is rigged then

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Looks good.....

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The Games are terrible right now.


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where do all your commerce fish play in Vegas?...Bellag?...I was there on Saturday with turnipmonster and they had like 58 tables of 10/20nl going - game was good.....if you know more, plz share....

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I'm out of the Vegas loop right now - I used to go back and forth quite a bit, but haven't been in forever - may go soon.

Last year, yeah, they would be playing 10/20 at Bellagio.

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yeah I've been here about 4 weeks - games are great....I recuperated from Katrina in San Fran and got some info on the Bay games from Matt and Jonas and others, but never really checked out any Cali poker because I just said f it I'll move to Vegas for a few months.....let me know if you come through...

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As9s?
you musta pushed for a reason

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I pushed because there is no hand I don't beat that a semi-aware player is checking on that flop - Unless perhaps, the player is insanely good/imaginative. I pushed because if a 9 or Q comes on the river I don't know if I'm good. I pushed b/c I put her on exactly QJ or J9 and thought I could get a call.

Your A9s idea is a really interesting one, however. That would be a pretty creative raise - but one of which she was incapable.

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straightforward besthand whomp
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet
so, she didn't want to look stupid in front of her bf and folded faceup?
her raise is terrible but the theoretical fold is even worse

Results
 

She checked a set of 3s on the flop.

I rivered a King and busted her.

She checked the flop because she's weak, not because she's good.

At least that's what I keep telling myself.

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Seems hard to believe she checks a set or top two when checked to in a 4 handed pot on that draw heavy board.

Would she check the flop with AJ here? QJ, J9s, J8s?

Would she semi-bluff the turn?

I'm having a hard time putting her on a hand that beats you or a hand that will call this raise when behind.

However, if you think that she might have checked worse Js behind on the flop, then I don't think she can get away from them now.

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I see people misplaying flopped sets on draw heavy boards all the time.

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I see people misplaying flopped sets on draw heavy boards all the time.

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by misplaying do you mean stacking the sh*t out of lapoker???

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I'm having a hard time putting her on a hand that beats you.

That's less concerning to me than the fact that it's highly unlikely he gets called by any hand he beats other than maybe QJ or J9, neither of which are likely to have checked the flop.

I pushed because there is no hand I don't beat that a semi-aware player is checking on that flop - Unless perhaps, the player is insanely good/imaginative. I pushed because if a 9 or Q comes on the river I don't know if I'm good.

Would you fold on the river? Problem here is that I think you only get called if you're beat. So your winnings are what's in the pot, and your loses are what's in the pot plus whatever's left in her stack.

This is one of those hands I think you get more money by letting her keep the lead. Does she raise the turn and check the river with QJ/J9, but would call the turn all in with QJ/J9? That's the only way I see that you make more money moving in on the spot, and I don't think it's overly likely.

I let her keep the lead and call a river bet. Lose less when behind, win more most of the time you're ahead.

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