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i had QTo in the cutoff and openraised in a good 20-40 live game. the button who had so far proven herself to be a passive typical mediocre self taught cold called with a sort of confidence in her step, the blinds called too.

the flop was Q92. checked to me and i bet, she raised with what i read as genuine vigor, folded to me and i called.

the turn is a 5 and i check-fold.

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You forgot to mention that I was sweating you and almost swallowed my own tongue. That is vital information. Although I was suprised you made this fold, I think it was correct.

I just am so used to you bet/3 betting the flop vs. 2 loose passives, betting the turn and checking the river on a 2,4,7,T,Q board and then saying "anyone have a pair" before mucking. Those are good times.

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I just am so used to you bet/3 betting the flop vs. 2 loose passives, betting the turn and checking the river on a 2,4,7,T,Q board and then saying "anyone have a pair" before mucking. Those are good times.

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lol. i wanna do that.

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I don't understand why you posted this hand Mike. Looks to me like you made a read based fold in a smallish pot heads up.

Good job?

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i had QTo in the cutoff and openraised in a good 20-40 live game. the button who had so far proven herself to be a passive typical mediocre self taught cold called with a sort of confidence in her step, the blinds called too.

the flop was Q92. checked to me and i bet, she raised with what i read as genuine vigor, folded to me and i called.

the turn is a 5 and i check-fold.

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Well damn, if it was genuine vigor, on top of calling with a confidence in her step, you should have just folded to the raise. I love your descriptions mike.

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no.

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i had QTo in the cutoff

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Shucks, I was hoping this would be your Queen-high-diamond-flush-on-the-river-with-flopped-second-pair-(9)-that-makes-the-third-nut-flush-on-the-river hand.

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You should have seen him fold KK on a Q high flop.

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oh yeah that's right, how did that one go exactly maybe ill post that. despite running bad i felt like i played my very best game last night.

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you mean when i raised utg with QTo? i forgot what happened. i know i never had a pair, i had a gutshot, but the cold calling moron on the button with AK gave an inexplicable free card on the turn. what was the board Kd9h8d, 9d, xd right? yeah that hand was fun.

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You should have seen him fold KK on a Q high flop.

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Probably woulda brought a tear to me eye I would have been so proud. Kinda like the last three or four pots I won when mike and I were at the same table near the end when I never had a single pair. I think we are trading roles and I am taking over as the bona fide chip sprayer. Then again, I think walking out with more money than I had walking in would be much more fun. I need to find a way to do that again.

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you mean when i raised utg with QTo? i forgot what happened. i know i never had a pair, i had a gutshot, but the cold calling moron on the button with AK gave an inexplicable free card on the turn. what was the board Kd9h8d, 9d, xd right? yeah that hand was fun.

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Are you sure you never had a pair? I specifically remember your hand being Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

I'm not sure, but I thought the board was K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Turn T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. River crappy diamond.

As for the AK player, yeah, she was amazing.

But if you're sure you didn't have a pair but did have a gutshot, I'll defer to that. And I didn't realize you raised preflop. I was too busy trying to give surfdoc my life story. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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"I specifically remember your hand being Q9."

you officially have a serious problem with remembering hands incorrectly. i had QT.

"As for the AK player, yeah, she was amazing."

it was an asian guy, not a she.

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And I didn't realize you raised preflop. I was too busy trying to give surfdoc my life story.

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Yeah, I was sorry you didn't get to finish but I am sure being a local in LA you can maybe give the deatils to Gabe or Mike next time since I won't be coming to Commerce anytime soon. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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yeah rick likes to listen. ill give you his cell number via pm.

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you officially have a serious problem with remembering hands incorrectly. i had QT.


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Kinda like Justin's utg+1 limp with QTo which would never, ever happen.

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"I specifically remember your hand being Q9."

you officially have a serious problem with remembering hands incorrectly. i had QT.

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I officially have a serious problem with remembering hands that I don't play. I'm the first to admit this.

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"As for the AK player, yeah, she was amazing."

it was an asian guy, not a she.

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The Asian Guy in Seat 5? Oh, he wasn't half as much fun as the middle-aged woman on your right (with the painted on eyebrows), the 80-year-old woman two to your right, and Crazy George in Seat 6.

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you officially have a serious problem with remembering hands incorrectly. i had QT.


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Kinda like Justin's utg+1 limp with QTo which would never, ever happen.

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Yeah, I sent him a PM about that (and the J8o hand on the button that probably wasn't him, either). I must have been confusing him with the player to his left.

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yeah 6-7-8 were the most fun combo of awful players ive had to my right in a very long time. maybe ever. talk about an amazing game.

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yeah those werent him. he plays tighter than surfdoc, like way tighter.

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yeah 6-7-8 were the most fun combo of awful players ive had to my right in a very long time. maybe ever. talk about an amazing game.

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I said to surf, "Sucks that I have the worst seat ever at one of the best tables ever."

To which he responded, "Yeah, it's the only seat worse than mine."

Bzznatch. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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yeah those werent him. he plays tighter than surfdoc, like way tighter.

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Well, surf was so card dead that his play made me look loose. And Justin thought I was a rock, so.... Eh, one session of B&M is so short that I could easily convince myself that all of us appeared to be rocks.

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having played twice with you my impression is you are playing a little too tight given how good the games are there. im sure youre enjoying a comfortable win rate with low variance though so that's fine.

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having played twice with you my impression is you are playing a little too tight given how good the games are there.

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I've recently loosened up in the BB against raises (thanks, Joker) and have increased my pfr on the button.

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im sure youre enjoying a comfortable win rate with low variance though so that's fine.

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Heh.

Oy.

My win rate is fine, but my variance should be lower given my slightly lower than optimal VPIP.

I appreciate the analysis, though.

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yeah 6-7-8 were the most fun combo of awful players ive had to my right in a very long time. maybe ever. talk about an amazing game.

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I said to surf, "Sucks that I have the worst seat ever at one of the best tables ever."

To which he responded, "Yeah, it's the only seat worse than mine."

Bzznatch. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Actually I had the best seat of all with three loose passive fish to my right and 1 loose aggressive fish to my right [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] and a rock to my left that made it so I had the button twice per round.

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"but my variance should be lower given my slightly lower than optimal VPIP."

that's exactly what i was saying.

anyway i think playing loose from the blinds is overrated. i think loosening up more in mp is the way to loosen up.

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Actually I had the best seat of all with three loose passive fish to my right and 1 loose aggressive fish to my right [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] and a rock to my left that made it so I had the button twice per round.

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Oh, TREBEK! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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"but my variance should be lower given my slightly lower than optimal VPIP."

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I meant my variance should be lower than what it is and not that my variance should be theoretically lower (which it should be).

In other words, my variance is higher than it should be given my VPIP.

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yeah rick likes to listen. ill give you his cell number via pm.

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"what did you say? speak up, it's noisy in here."

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yeah those werent him. he plays tighter than surfdoc, like way tighter.

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BURN!

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A limper or two. You raise on button w/KK. SB 3 bet. BB calls. limper(s) call. You just call. flop is QJ8 (two d's you have Kd.) SB bets. BB calls. You raise. SB rr. BB caps. You fold. I think that's about right.

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I just am so used to you bet/3 betting the flop vs. 2 loose passives, betting the turn and checking the river on a 2,4,7,T,Q board and then saying "anyone have a pair" before mucking. Those are good times.

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He does this better than anyone I've ever seen. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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i felt like i played my very best game last night.

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Like when you raised UTG with A4o 8 handed right? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

-DeathDonkey

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In case I've never mentioned it, you have one of my all-time favorite handle-avatar combos.

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In case I've never mentioned it, you have one of my all-time favorite handle-avatar combos.

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you're so full of sunshine tonight.