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If you even THINK about touching Mazzone, I'll firebomb every piece of property you own.

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He's as good as ours.

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Absolutely zero chance he goes anywhere.

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Doubtful, but zero chance? You dont think he wants to be a head coach?

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Doubtful, but zero chance? You dont think he wants to be a head coach?

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No. They want him for pitching coach anyway, not manager. He'll stay with Atlanta as long as Bobby Cox is there.

I wouldn't be shocked if he and Cox retired together. Unless Cox is closer to quitting then I assume. If so, Terry Pendleton would take over if he's still around and Mazzone would stay.

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If so, Terry Pendleton would take over if he's still around and Mazzone would stay.


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I like this (not that I want Cox to retire). And who would be the next hitting coach? My guess, Eddie Perez.

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If so, Terry Pendleton would take over if he's still around and Mazzone would stay.


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I like this (not that I want Cox to retire). And who would be the next hitting coach? My guess, Eddie Perez.

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My guess, too. Although Terry Pendleton's being interviewed by both Tampa and the Dodgers.

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If so, Terry Pendleton would take over if he's still around and Mazzone would stay.


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I like this (not that I want Cox to retire). And who would be the next hitting coach? My guess, Eddie Perez.

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Good a guess as any. Would they give it to him only a year or two after retirement? I have no idea. For Pendleton to get the job I would think Cox would have to retire in around three years. I assume someone would offer him a manager's job somewhere else pretty soon if he doesn't want to wait.

As a Cubs fan, if they want Gene Clines or Gary Matthews I'll offer to pay for plane tickets.

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why hasnt mazzone taken a job as a manager in the mlb yet? he's obviously proven he's among the elite with regards to coaches/managers in the past 10-15 years, yet he's still playing 2nd fiddle to B.Cox down in atl. how could he not have wanted to manage his own team by now? has he not been offered a job? (that would be pretty shocking, considering his track record)

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Leo Mazzone is worth .55 to .85 runs per game.

That's more than any pitcher in the league and 99% of the everyday players.

George should be willing to shell a lot of moolah for him, especially without a pitching coach right now.

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Not having a pitching coach hasn't made George shell out anything for one for the last few years now.

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He's as good as ours.

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Yes, COME to los jankees! we will pay you lots of money! You'll DEFINATELY have a better shot at making it deep in the playoffs. And just think, if you fix the Yanks pitching staff, you'll be the best ever. No questions asked. Do you really want to stay in atlanta with the 100 degree 100% humidity days in the summer? Do you really want to sit in the worst traffic in the world every day? Do you want more hot bitches than Jeter? Come, my son. Come.

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As a Sox fan, I have to say this is absolutely the last thing I want to see happen. I'd rather lose Manny in a sign and trade for Kevin Brown.

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TSC, I asked you in an earlier thread if you would like to make a friendly wager about Mazzone going to the Yankees next year. I didn't see it if you responded then, so I will ask again.

I don't think Mazzone is going anywhere, and I am willing to make a wager to that effect.

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TSC, I asked you in an earlier thread if you would like to make a friendly wager about Mazzone going to the Yankees next year. I didn't see it if you responded then, so I will ask again.

I don't think Mazzone is going anywhere, and I am willing to make a wager to that effect.

[/ QUOTE ]I must have missed it. Want to wager titles?

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Want to wager titles?

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Do you mean, like, dukedoms?

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[/ QUOTE ]yup. ATL fans need to stop trying to convince themselves otherwise.

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TSC, I asked you in an earlier thread if you would like to make a friendly wager about Mazzone going to the Yankees next year. I didn't see it if you responded then, so I will ask again.

I don't think Mazzone is going anywhere, and I am willing to make a wager to that effect.

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Our titles on 2p2? That sounds fair.

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[/ QUOTE ]yup. ATL fans need to stop trying to convince themselves otherwise.

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TSC, I asked you in an earlier thread if you would like to make a friendly wager about Mazzone going to the Yankees next year. I didn't see it if you responded then, so I will ask again.

I don't think Mazzone is going anywhere, and I am willing to make a wager to that effect.

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Our titles on 2p2? That sounds fair.

[/ QUOTE ]deal.

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I heard he's a longtime friend of the Baltimore manager and is interested in working with him.

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"Leo Mazzone is worth .55 to .85 runs per game."

So why, then, would the Braves have given permission to the Yankees and Orioles to talk to him?

How do you come up with .55 to.85 rpg?

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Probably comparing ATL team ERA to the NL league average over a period of years. Mazzone is a great pitching coach. One only need to see guys like Jaret Wright, Denny Neagle, Kevin Millwood's numbers on ATL and elsewhere to see this.

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Absolutely zero chance he goes anywhere.

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For a $8M/3-year contract, he would be a pitching coach of the Chinese national team.

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Kevin Millwood's numbers on ATL and elsewhere to see this

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Uh? He lead the AL in ERA this year.

But I agree Mazzone is awesome. COaches don't get into the HoF, players and managers do. But I honestly think when his time comes he should be considered.

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But I agree Mazzone is awesome. COaches don't get into the HoF, players and managers do. But I honestly think when his time comes he should be considered.

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his opinion of how a move will affect his HOF chances may just be the thing to make his decision for him.

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"Leo Mazzone is worth .55 to .85 runs per game."

So why, then, would the Braves have given permission to the Yankees and Orioles to talk to him?

How do you come up with .55 to.85 rpg?

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JC Bradbury compared pitchers pre-/post-mazzone and during the mazzone years and found that, on average, he lowered their ERAs by about half a run.

Of course, it's really hard to get a good read on it with other things affecting ERA (park, defense) but nobody else showed any significant result.

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[/ QUOTE ]yup. ATL fans need to stop trying to convince themselves otherwise.

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TSC, I asked you in an earlier thread if you would like to make a friendly wager about Mazzone going to the Yankees next year. I didn't see it if you responded then, so I will ask again.

I don't think Mazzone is going anywhere, and I am willing to make a wager to that effect.

[/ QUOTE ]I must have missed it. Want to wager titles?

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Our titles on 2p2? That sounds fair.

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Noted

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TSC, I asked you in an earlier thread if you would like to make a friendly wager about Mazzone going to the Yankees next year. I didn't see it if you responded then, so I will ask again.

I don't think Mazzone is going anywhere, and I am willing to make a wager to that effect.

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Our titles on 2p2? That sounds fair.

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Noted

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dammit-dammit-dammit. mazzone calls off talks and girardi leaves for the marlins. all on the same day

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TSC, I asked you in an earlier thread if you would like to make a friendly wager about Mazzone going to the Yankees next year. I didn't see it if you responded then, so I will ask again.

I don't think Mazzone is going anywhere, and I am willing to make a wager to that effect.

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Our titles on 2p2? That sounds fair.

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Noted

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Ok, if he goes to Baltimore is our bet a push?

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"Leo Mazzone is worth .55 to .85 runs per game."

So why, then, would the Braves have given permission to the Yankees and Orioles to talk to him?

How do you come up with .55 to.85 rpg?

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JC Bradbury compared pitchers pre-/post-mazzone and during the mazzone years and found that, on average, he lowered their ERAs by about half a run.

Of course, it's really hard to get a good read on it with other things affecting ERA (park, defense) but nobody else showed any significant result.

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If this is anywhere near accurate, Leo Mazzone is worth as much as A-Rod, perhaps more. And this guy has been doing it for 10 years.

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TSC, I asked you in an earlier thread if you would like to make a friendly wager about Mazzone going to the Yankees next year. I didn't see it if you responded then, so I will ask again.

I don't think Mazzone is going anywhere, and I am willing to make a wager to that effect.

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Our titles on 2p2? That sounds fair.

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Ok, if he goes to Baltimore is our bet a push?

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TSC, my point about the push is that I believe you were betting that he went to NY, and I was betting that he stayed. So neither of us was right.

However, if you have a title in mind for me, feel free to get a mod to change it.

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naw, it was a push. I was thinking he was going to NY, and you didn't think he was going anywhere.