Two Plus Two Older Archives

Two Plus Two Older Archives (http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/index.php)
-   Rake Back (http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=49)
-   -   Opened new Party Acct. Today (http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=359461)

wackjob 10-17-2005 02:26 PM

Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
I opened a new Party account today with a new e-mail and a new payment account that I just created. I got a phone call from party within 30 minutes asking about my old account, even SUGGESTING I use the old one. I told them to close it that I would use my new account and they did, but I wonder if this will cause any problems with any "extras" I am supposed to be getting.

GrannyMae 10-17-2005 03:00 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
has anyone (affiliates and players) considered that this method is a red flag? why are you confident that this will work?

if i were doing rakeback quietly, i would never take a player who has switched accounts in this fashion because i would fear that in a month they will come close me down because of all my new players that closed/open accounts during this period.

affiliate managers are going to see this at the end of month.

Python49 10-17-2005 03:11 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
OP woulda been fine he just forgot to use a new name. Thus the phone call.

paco 10-17-2005 03:12 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
So you emailed the 'high volume' address for the extras? If you did that, why even bother with the new account?

wackjob 10-17-2005 03:22 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
I used a new screen name, new payment method, new e-mail, but I cannot change my real name because they verify thru your payment method which requires your real name as it is linked to a real bank account. We'll see how it works out.

StellarWind 10-17-2005 04:24 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]
I opened a new Party account today with a new e-mail and a new payment account that I just created. I got a phone call from party within 30 minutes asking about my old account, even SUGGESTING I use the old one. I told them to close it that I would use my new account and they did, but I wonder if this will cause any problems with any "extras" I am supposed to be getting.

[/ QUOTE ]
Why did you make this post? Do you realize that you and all the other posters who make posts like this are throwing rocks at a hornet's nest?

Someone trusted you to be discrete and did business with you. You just repaid them by endangering everyone's business.

The key is "don't ask, don't tell". Party can easily figure out which affiliates are breaking the rules and shut down them all down. If everyone is discrete Party might decide that it is in their best interest to ignore what is happening because it brings them business they might not otherwise have.

So many of you continue to embarrass Party by flaunting your disregard for the rules. Of course Party already knows exactly what the score is but that is not the issue. They don't actually care how an affiliate spends his money. But they cannot tolerate a public spectacle in front of the traditional affiliates, recreational players, auditors, stock analysts, and institutional investors.

EvanJC 10-17-2005 04:30 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
i [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] stellarwind

goodguy_1 10-17-2005 04:32 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]
i [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] stellarwind

[/ QUOTE ]

wackjob 10-17-2005 04:36 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
Who said I even use an affiliate. I am talking about extras from party that have been publicly discussed for a long time. I don't think RB was even available.

GrannyMae 10-17-2005 04:41 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]
Who said I even use an affiliate. I am talking about extras from party that have been publicly discussed for a long time. I don't think RB was even available.

[/ QUOTE ]

HUH??

then why would you close old account?

the intra-party incentives are based on past play, so under this scenario, you just shot yourself in the foot.

wackjob 10-17-2005 04:49 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
Then I misunderstood some of the other posts. I understood posts to say that new accounts would receive the new benefits from party.

StellarWind 10-17-2005 05:03 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]
Who said I even use an affiliate. I am talking about extras from party that have been publicly discussed for a long time. I don't think RB was even available.

[/ QUOTE ]
Very good answer. Obviously I misunderstood you and I'm sorry I picked your post to answer. Mea culpa.

teddyFBI 10-17-2005 07:01 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
Good post Stellar. I hope the irony is not lost that it's the very same mega-affiliates who are now decrying this public spectacle who themselves are responsible for it. They purchased this forum/adspace without a proper understandings of its potential implications, and were the first to announce their intention to flaunt the existing RB rules. You'll have to excuse the exasperated readers who got their appetetites wetted by a bunch of prematurely optimistic posts, and are then told to keep their traps shut by the same folk, lest they "ruin it for everybody". Mighty hypocritical

jason_t 10-17-2005 07:05 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] StellarWind.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

As do I. It's an extremely common error, but the word is "discreet" not "discrete." [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

StellarWind 10-17-2005 08:06 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's an extremely common error, but the word is "discreet" not "discrete." [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]
Oops, it's a homonym [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]. Thanks for teaching me something new [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].

10-17-2005 09:22 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
I know I'm new here, but if this thread has nothing to do with rakeback/affiliates, what's it doing in this section?

10-17-2005 10:21 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]
Then I misunderstood some of the other posts. I understood posts to say that new accounts would receive the new benefits from party.

[/ QUOTE ]

You must be really excited about all the cool logo-ized merch you'll be recieving the mail. Screw rakeback. Party Poker mesh caps--woot!

wackjob 10-17-2005 11:41 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
I posted because I opened a new account in hopes to start receiving party "extras" that are supposedly offered through party now, not just shirts and caps but other offers that are available and listed on their website. The main reason I posted is I found it strange that party contacted me right away after opening a new account so I could receive some bonuses that I hadn't gotten on my old account. I don't see why not to post in this forum since this seems to be where people are discussing what extra things you can get from party.

I don't have an affiliate or a RB deal for party, but I also don't see why I can't get the things that party openly offers on their website that I wasn't getting via my previous account, be it on my own or through whatever means are necessary.

I have no information nor contact or anything else known about "under the table" deals and I haven't contacted any of these "rakeback" sites. I honestly don't know what people are getting their panties in a bunch over. If I want to earn RB I will play on Empire or another skin or site that offers RB. When I play on party, I want to make sure I am getting everything party feels like offering.

morgant 10-18-2005 12:57 AM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
hahahahah

teddy, i have been reading your posts and not sure of your venom. but you clearly have not been reading what we have been writing. we from point one of this party ordeal, said, wait, do not jump into deals, do not do anything, see what transpires.

if you are so naive to think, that this forum that started a few weeks ago, spurned party to kill off the skins, then well, you are simply not playing with a full deck.

you are confusing the people who own this forum, with those that were offering 'prematurely optimistic posts' who then turned around and said be quiet.

i understand if you guys are upset that your rakeback is in jeoprady, but we(all affilaites, well those with honest businesses) are reacting and doing our best to play within the sites rules, then offer you guys rakeback, which in turn makes our businesses successful and profitable. i have been doing it for over 2 years now, and doing it well. but party is the one who is creating this, they fostered the environment that provided rakeback, they made a boatload of money doing it also. now they are the ones who are taking it away, for some of you, aka; those who jumped on the get party rakeback now bandwagon.

10-18-2005 01:07 AM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
You're on tilt tonight.

From the lack of professionalism throughout, it's hard to trust in anyone posting in this forum.

teddyFBI 10-18-2005 08:56 AM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
To the contrary, I've read nearly every single post made since the launch of this forum.

I have never once bad-mouthed an individual affiliate/advertiser/sponsor; I've only expressed the same frustration that others have felt. Morgan, ask yourself why, since the day this forum launched, the sponsors and advertisers of this forum have had their integrity and motivations questioned by nearly every one of the most respected posters on this forum. Don't try and isolate me, because I'm simply expressing the same frustration that other far smarter and more well respected posters have done.
Readers of this forum have been delivered mixed messages from the very start, so don't hide behind a "but you weren't reading who was saying what" excuse. Yes, I guess you are damned if you do and damned if you don't: police the forum too much and you're labeled the gestapo / too little and face complaints that there's too much hypocrisy going on (when it's perhaps coming from different voices). But such is life, and the sponsors of this forum bear ultimate responsibility, even while I acknowledge you're in somewhat of a tough spot.

Unabridged 10-18-2005 04:12 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]
Then I misunderstood some of the other posts. I understood posts to say that new accounts would receive the new benefits from party.

[/ QUOTE ]

lolz
you have >1000 posts, this has to be a joke

sthief09 10-18-2005 04:16 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]
has anyone (affiliates and players) considered that this method is a red flag? why are you confident that this will work?

if i were doing rakeback quietly, i would never take a player who has switched accounts in this fashion because i would fear that in a month they will come close me down because of all my new players that closed/open accounts during this period.

affiliate managers are going to see this at the end of month.

[/ QUOTE ]


this is what I've been thinking too. it's such an easy way to track down rakeback affiliates. a whole bunch of people closed their old accounts and signed up with this affiliate. hmmmmmm. doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's not a rush of people that wants new WOWREAL bonuses and chip sets

sthief09 10-18-2005 04:20 PM

There Is a Reason Why...
 
...I did this when he had <100 posts


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ief09/wack.jpg

MicroBob 10-19-2005 05:28 AM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]

You're on tilt tonight.

From the lack of professionalism throughout, it's hard to trust in anyone posting in this forum.

[/ QUOTE ]

sublime 10-19-2005 06:05 AM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I opened a new Party account today with a new e-mail and a new payment account that I just created. I got a phone call from party within 30 minutes asking about my old account, even SUGGESTING I use the old one. I told them to close it that I would use my new account and they did, but I wonder if this will cause any problems with any "extras" I am supposed to be getting.

[/ QUOTE ]
Why did you make this post? Do you realize that you and all the other posters who make posts like this are throwing rocks at a hornet's nest?

Someone trusted you to be discrete and did business with you. You just repaid them by endangering everyone's business.

The key is "don't ask, don't tell". Party can easily figure out which affiliates are breaking the rules and shut down them all down. If everyone is discrete Party might decide that it is in their best interest to ignore what is happening because it brings them business they might not otherwise have.

So many of you continue to embarrass Party by flaunting your disregard for the rules. Of course Party already knows exactly what the score is but that is not the issue. They don't actually care how an affiliate spends his money. But they cannot tolerate a public spectacle in front of the traditional affiliates, recreational players, auditors, stock analysts, and institutional investors.

[/ QUOTE ]

This post rules!

Klepton 10-19-2005 07:19 AM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] StellarWind.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

As do I. It's an extremely common error, but the word is "discreet" not "discrete." [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.poker-in-the-uk.com/WPT-I...voliasakis.jpg
THE ISLAND OF DISCRETE!!

Guy McSucker 10-20-2005 02:52 PM

Re: Opened new Party Acct. Today
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
It's an extremely common error, but the word is "discreet" not "discrete." [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]
Oops, it's a homonym [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]. Thanks for teaching me something new [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].

[/ QUOTE ]

I almost can't believe I'm posting this. I am such a pedant. You mean "homophone" rather than "homonym."

I feel I have missed out on a clever in-joke though.

Guy.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:42 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.