Doyle\'s Room....my experience.
 

Well...how do I say this....I have the utmost in respect for Doyle, and honestly I have no idea on the day to day dealings he truly has with the site except in name alone. That being said, if my name was associated with anything from a poker site to a soft drink I would still care about it. So...I am spreading the word just like I fore warned DR staff I would and here I am telling people about the DR antics. This isn't the first forum I am willing to talk about on nor will this be the last one.

Here is the situation, I had won a tournament on there and taken it down for $1200. One of my friends was railing the tournament and I gave him $30 to start an account on DR and he was very grateful. Not only did he do well, he did VERY well with playing in limits and playing very well in the MTT. Well, he ran that $30 over 2k, and accumulated over 160k in action points. That is a TON of rake. Especially when he was moving to 5-10 limit and playing a bunch there. It would be easily over 1k in rake for him alone, not to mention my action on the site as well. So, they are making a ton off of my friend with no rake back set up 100% profit. Me I had it set up, still making a ton off of me as well.

So, a situation comes up, Mike is sending me $300 in player to player transfer. I receive the money and then go and deposit it to my Neteller account. Simple enough right, something that happens on every site many times a day. I got to see my balance in Neteller...nope nothing has gone through. I go back check my account....nope same balance. I got to the history and there it is, withdrawal cancelled money sent back to my friend. Hunhh? Ok, so jump on the horn with customer support; let's see what is going on...ohh you have to talk to accounting. Ok fair enough I give him a call, now this might shock some of you to know this...but the person on the phone had a thick accent and was tough to understand. He tells me...get this...that they are not going to allow a player to player transfer that is then withdrawn. Wtf??? Are you telling me that the money isn't really our money?! "We do not allow player to player transfers with a withdrawal", how you figure this isn't your money to dictate any terms about it, it is mine and my friends.

Well this went back and forth, sending emails out to the room manager, security, support, accounting manager, everyone except Doyle himself. I have played with Doyle and he is a very nice person btw, real stand up guy, and a lucky sucker, watched him take out AA vs JQos with an A on the flop, spikes a straight on the turn and a royal on the river....unreal. Anyway, back to the story, I tell these guys to stop messing with our money and quit fing around with our business, nope this is our policy and we will not change. Not to mention that they will ALLOW the transfer if there is no withdrawal....are you friggen kidding me??!! So this money is locked up for how long until I have made some hypothetical hand number then you release my funds to withdrawal off the site?? Talking about nuts, this made me very spooked....we all entrust our money to sites and when they start goofing around with our funds and not allowing us to get money off the site...alarms and whistles should be blaring in your head.

I told them on numerous, (and no surprise to anyone reading this) lengthy detailed emails that this is none of their business quick screwing around with our money, or I would warn others and withdrawal the full bank roll and so would my friend. To my absolute surprise these knuckle heads wouldn’t walk away from their stupid policy which was losing them money. Any policy that makes your business lose money....is a bad policy nuff said.

So, screw it, this drama and time was pissing me off, I hate stupid people they are like kryptonite to me. My buddy couldn't transfer to me; he couldn't use his Neteller account, because I originally staked him from my tournament as a thank you for railing. That is another rule, if you didn't deposit with Neteller....you can't withdrawal with Neteller...makes no sense. So, I went as I said and withdrew my money off the site, don't even mess with my money or get cute.

So, there you go with DR, beware of their antics with your bank roll and telling you what you can and can't do with your own money. On an amusing side note, they have this gaff on there, I thought was funny. I was cashing out my money, and I put the full amount in there just like I have done with other sites. However, when cashing out, I couldn't take the change; I could only cash out round numbers. **POOF** Good bye 87 cents, I tried rounding up...nope over your BR amount...you have to put the amount in with out any change....nice. Imagine how much this adds up to over time...pretty sick amounts.

This drama is over for me now, however I thought people should know about this, as it sucks. I and my friend both bailed after they started getting cute with our money, and another friend is now leaving. Should you leave...up to you and your confidence with people goofing around off shore with your cash, and stiffing you on your withdrawals by rounding your amounts off lower.

Nice site very cool software, decent bonuses, rake back, ok tournament structure, just terrible staff and hitting the third rail of online poker...don't EVER mess with a players BR.....EVER!

Anyway, what I told them I would do I am doing...spreading the word, just FYI.

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PartyPoker requires that you play raked hands in order to withdraw transfered money. It sounds like they have a similar policy.

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You must be new.

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That is another rule, if you didn't deposit with Neteller....you can't withdrawal with Neteller...makes no sense.

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DUH!!!! Didn't you read the rules for Neteller before you got an account??? What a dweeb!!! I don't belong to Doyle's room, but I do belong to a site that is part of his network and I've NEVER had a problem with them or with Neteller.

Donna

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I thought this was pretty standard anti-money laundering stuff.

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I have played with Doyle and he is a very nice person btw, real stand up guy, and a lucky sucker,


i ALMOST stopped reading after this line, but i was praying that the story ended in a bankroll confiscation.

1. you are a dick.
2. doyle is VERY involved in the site
3. they are not a bank
4. xfers + withdrawals like this aid colluders
5. when you have 10 wsop bracelets come back and discuss luck
6. you are a dick

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The reason sites like Doyle's Room, Party Poker, and I assume many others, prevent you from cashing out a transfer without playing with the money first is as a guard against money laundering and players abusing the transfer process to avoid processing fees that the sites end up paying to companies like Neteller. It's really a logical enough requirement, and at least somewhat standard for the industry. The sites allow money transfers to facilitate players playing on their site, not to give you the equivalent of free checking.

Party also limits Neteller cashouts to whole dollar amounts

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Dude, pretty much everything you're complaining about is standard industry practice. (Even the not letting you cash out change.)

Withdraw your money to Neteller, transfer to your friend from there, and play at a different site where your account isn't probably red-flagged.

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I told them on numerous, (and no surprise to anyone reading this) lengthy detailed emails that this is none of their business quick screwing around with our money

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This cracked me up.

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Wow....had not realized the depth of flaming over this pretty vanilla subject.

So...let's get this straight. Let's see what we got ton the black board here.

1. I am a bad guy to say anything about a site that has Doyle's name on it, regardless of what a site does.

2. This was a transfer as stated to a friend, who couldn't tranfer via Neteller, because his first deposit was...a transfer.

3. This is VCpoker skin, so in essence it is VCpoker I am talking about, to all the Doyle defenders.

4. This is my friends money...not the sites it is his, once transfered to me it is mine.

5. I can keep the money ONLY if I play on the site with it, can't take it off...my money...can't take it.

6. Laundering, sure over 100 thousand in player points, many final tables, many submissions on improvements to the site, already cashed out previously, I am an affiliate...and I am laundering money. Those points add up to thousands of raked dollars....but I am laundering $300...what an amazing and unprofitable cover for $300.

You want me to post a picture of Doyle hitting his royal against a set of aces....I will.

Quick recap, your money is not truely your money, taking all your change on cashing out also acceptable, not helping dedicated players with tons of rake and hours on the site acceptable.

What isn't acceptable in your views in a site....damn....amazing.

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I have played with Doyle and he is a very nice person btw, real stand up guy, and a lucky sucker,


i ALMOST stopped reading after this line, but i was praying that the story ended in a bankroll confiscation.

1. you are a dick.
2. doyle is VERY involved in the site
3. they are not a bank
4. xfers + withdrawals like this aid colluders
5. when you have 10 wsop bracelets come back and discuss luck
6. you are a dick

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God forbid he say that Doyle is a nice guy. He seems quite nice to me, and the OP is not a dick for saying so. Do you not think Doyle is a stand-up guy as well? Keep your personal problems with Doyle to yourself.

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Quick recap, your money is not truely your money, taking all your change on cashing out also acceptable, not helping dedicated players with tons of rake and hours on the site acceptable.

What isn't acceptable in your views in a site....damn....amazing.

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Either continue living in your own world, where people make you mad, or learn to understand what they're saying.

The choice is yours.

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I have played with Doyle and he is a very nice person btw, real stand up guy, and a lucky sucker,

i ALMOST stopped reading after this line, but i was praying that the story ended in a bankroll confiscation.

1. you are a dick.
2. doyle is VERY involved in the site
3. they are not a bank
4. xfers + withdrawals like this aid colluders
5. when you have 10 wsop bracelets come back and discuss luck
6. you are a dick

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God forbid he say that Doyle is a nice guy. He seems quite nice to me, and the OP is not a dick for saying so. Do you not think Doyle is a stand-up guy as well? Keep your personal problems with Doyle to yourself.

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Incorrect response. Reread and try again.

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I bonus whored there and they gave me grief with my cashout. They made me fax them a copy of my driver's license two different times to cash out. Was a gigantic pain in the butt compared to the bigger rooms which just do it right away no hassle.

Regardless I quit there and have no plans of going back. The software is very basic and not enough players.

(although if you want a fish pond the players are the worst I've ever seen)

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Wow....had not realized the depth of flaming over this pretty vanilla subject.

So...let's get this straight. Let's see what we got ton the black board here.

1. I am a bad guy to say anything about a site that has Doyle's name on it, regardless of what a site does.

2. This was a transfer as stated to a friend, who couldn't tranfer via Neteller, because his first deposit was...a transfer.

3. This is VCpoker skin, so in essence it is VCpoker I am talking about, to all the Doyle defenders.

4. This is my friends money...not the sites it is his, once transfered to me it is mine.

5. I can keep the money ONLY if I play on the site with it, can't take it off...my money...can't take it.

6. Laundering, sure over 100 thousand in player points, many final tables, many submissions on improvements to the site, already cashed out previously, I am an affiliate...and I am laundering money. Those points add up to thousands of raked dollars....but I am laundering $300...what an amazing and unprofitable cover for $300.

You want me to post a picture of Doyle hitting his royal against a set of aces....I will.

Quick recap, your money is not truely your money, taking all your change on cashing out also acceptable, not helping dedicated players with tons of rake and hours on the site acceptable.

What isn't acceptable in your views in a site....damn....amazing.

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Harvester, the problem here is that you have 1, or now, 2 posts. Anyone with that many is never allowed to criticize or even suggest improvements to online poker. If you write the exact same post, but with 1000 previous, people will explain the transfer rules, tell you why the site is legit, nothing shady, but they would do so while not flaming. There is nothing shady about the site and what they did is SOP for most sites. But you must accept the fact that the responses you are getting are SOP for this forum, as well.

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I am an affiliate...and I am laundering money.

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Jesus, why would you admit to being an affiliate?

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I have played with Doyle and he is a very nice person btw, real stand up guy, and a lucky sucker,


i ALMOST stopped reading after this line, but i was praying that the story ended in a bankroll confiscation.

1. you are a dick.
2. doyle is VERY involved in the site
3. they are not a bank
4. xfers + withdrawals like this aid colluders
5. when you have 10 wsop bracelets come back and discuss luck
6. you are a dick

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God forbid he say that Doyle is a nice guy. He seems quite nice to me, and the OP is not a dick for saying so. Do you not think Doyle is a stand-up guy as well? Keep your personal problems with Doyle to yourself.

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You're missing the point rookie. Granny is not saying Doyle is not a nice guy, Granny is....oh never mind.

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I have played with Doyle and he is a very nice person btw, real stand up guy, and a lucky sucker,

i ALMOST stopped reading after this line, but i was praying that the story ended in a bankroll confiscation.

1. you are a dick.
2. doyle is VERY involved in the site
3. they are not a bank
4. xfers + withdrawals like this aid colluders
5. when you have 10 wsop bracelets come back and discuss luck
6. you are a dick

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God forbid he say that Doyle is a nice guy. He seems quite nice to me, and the OP is not a dick for saying so. Do you not think Doyle is a stand-up guy as well? Keep your personal problems with Doyle to yourself.

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Incorrect response. Reread and try again.

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Incorrect response, reread (between the lines) and try again.

Fine, I will explain it to you. Calling someone a nice person, and a stand-up guy, is quite a compliment. For him make the comment that he is a lucky sucker, well that is hardly an insult. Doyle and family have survived several life threatening illnesses, beating the odds many times. And Doyle's rep also comes, incorrectly, from his winning hands in his ME being poor starting hands. I understand that he is one of the greatest poker players of all time. And all poker players have good luck, and they have bad luck. I think Granny might have been a bit hard on him, for mentioning that he is a lucky sucker, and recounting one example of this luck.

If I win the BBJ at Party, would it be lucky? Yes! Should I be offended if someone makes that statement about me? NO! And neither should Doyle, and neither should Granny.

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lucky sucker

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Calling someone lucky is opinion, but may be true at times of course.

Calling someone a sucker is in bad taste.

Calling someone a lucky sucker is truly in bad taste.

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Fine, I will explain it to you.

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I stopped reading here.

You read too fast and incorrectly interpreted Granny's post. Changing your story into a lecture on luck won't change that fact.

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I have played with Doyle and he is a very nice person btw, real stand up guy, and a lucky sucker,


i ALMOST stopped reading after this line, but i was praying that the story ended in a bankroll confiscation.

1. you are a dick.
2. doyle is VERY involved in the site
3. they are not a bank
4. xfers + withdrawals like this aid colluders
5. when you have 10 wsop bracelets come back and discuss luck
6. you are a dick

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Refreshing!

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I sort of knew I was going to get grief from being post #1. Enhhh....goes with the territory, I have been a long time poster on NWP, however after the WSOP apperances of Todd and Dustin the site was inundated with tons of newbies who I couldn't stomach anymore and just gave up and moved over to card player forums to talk about.....poker. I have written numerous articles on SNG strategy and helped a ton of people to become better players. I also know about SOP, however SOP and customer service are two differnt things. Here is a snipit from an article on laundering money.

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The IGC told the FATF that stringent player registration and ongoing verification processes for online gambling, in conjunction with the appropriate regulatory oversight and banking regulations, satisfy the "know your customer" requirement that is basic to any fight against money laundering. This, combined with the advanced computer technology that's available to Web site operators, is a strong deterrent to money launderers.

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Now...there is the rub. Here is a dedicated player logging in tons of hours and giving them tons of money...and they wont give me a pass on this helping out two of their prolific customers?

And yes...it is our money on their sites. Just like it is your money in your Neteller or local bank account. No, I have cashed out of Absolute and other sites, and they gave me all my money, didn't gaff me on my change. Regardless of the amounts, any time someone takes a dollar or 10 bucks or 87 cents that isn't theirs...that is wrong. It is our money, it was Mike's money when he transfered it to me, it was mine after it was in my account, what I choose to do with it after that is my decision that is the bottom line. If they feel something nefarious is happening, they can contact me. However, in ths instance, we both contacted them and tried everything we could to resolve it...real criminal like. They wouldn't lift a finger, even lost our business on their site due to it, again a failure of customer service and any policy that losses you money is a bad policy.

I got pretty thick skin, so some flaming aint gonna drive me away, it is the Net and it is pretty normal. If you ever saw the welcoming messages people would get at NWP...lol...well let's just say pretty damn mean.

If anyone would be so kind as to show me the source of this laundering code that off shore institutions are handcuffed under I would love to see it.

And yes...I left I am back on PS now playing there on their 25% bonus right now.

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Keep your personal problems with Doyle to yourself.

Granny LOVES doyle. Doyle loves granny.

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Jesus, why would you admit to being an affiliate?

nh

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Keep your personal problems with Doyle to yourself.

Granny LOVES doyle. Doyle loves granny.

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Granny, either you missed the RIF truck or you might have some serious comprehension problems with the English language. No one ever said anything about Doyle in a negative or derogatory way through any of these posts. You took upon yourself to go Lee Harvey on me spitting on your monitor and freaking out over this...not anyone else. This is about a site that has his name on it, that is a skin of another site, relax and take some deep breathes and quit freaking out.

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That is another rule, if you didn't deposit with Neteller....you can't withdrawal with Neteller...makes no sense.

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DUH!!!! Didn't you read the rules for Neteller before you got an account??? What a dweeb !!! I don't belong to Doyle's room, but I do belong to a site that is part of his network and I've NEVER had a problem with them or with Neteller.

Donna

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Ah...brings me back to grade school [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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lucky sucker

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Calling someone lucky is opinion, but may be true at times of course.

Calling someone a sucker is in bad taste.

Calling someone a lucky sucker is truly in bad taste.

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Saying someone is a "lucky sucker" is not bad, maybe English is not your first language and the cultural nuances of the word sucker being used in this context is lost on you. It is just a way of saying very lucky, not that he is a sucker or anything bad. Do a search of it being used on the net; in 99% of the time being used it will normally be used as a term for very lucky.

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relax and take some deep breathes and quit freaking out.

this was not a Granny freakout. i can point you to some GOOOOD one's tho (pittm, ramaclitva, ryan21, kaz [the original of course], tomd, flfishhead, hoppy, onlinechimp, etc etc etc)

my problems with your post was:

1. you are either a regular who cowardly created a new account to bash doyle's site over something that is a security feature to make us all safe, OR you are a true new poster that thinks going to all of the forums and posting this tirade will do some good. this is posting extortion, and those of us that have been here from the start have seen it a thousand times.

2. you inferred that doyle was simply selling his image and if you had done any research at all, you would have realized that this sully of his reputation is reprehensible.

3. calling doyle a lucky sucker conjures up the notion that you feel he may not be any good. that would be the varkonyi-syndrome, not the doyle syndrome, and i am very defensive of doyle.

good luck with your mission

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relax and take some deep breathes and quit freaking out.

this was not a Granny freakout. i can point you to some GOOOOD one's tho (pittm, ramaclitva, ryan21, kaz [the original of course], tomd, flfishhead, hoppy, onlinechimp, etc etc etc)

my problems with your post was:

1. you are either a regular who cowardly created a new account to bash doyle's site over something that is a security feature to make us all safe, OR you are a true new poster that thinks going to all of the forums and posting this tirade will do some good. this is posting extortion, and those of us that have been here from the start have seen it a thousand times.

2. you inferred that doyle was simply selling his image and if you had done any research at all, you would have realized that this sully of his reputation is reprehensible.

3. calling doyle a lucky sucker conjures up the notion that you feel he may not be any good. that would be the varkonyi-syndrome, not the doyle syndrome, and i am very defensive of doyle.

good luck with your mission

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Fair enough...I hear ya, If I was just a hit and ru artist, I would probably not be here still dilegently answering these replies. Outside of the childish one which was just stupid and not worth replying to. I know what you mean though... 1 post "hey guys I found this site and made a ton of money off of it, you all need to go check it out!!! >insert affiliate link here<".

The only thing I am doing is exactly what I told them I would do...spread the word on their site and my experience. I have met Doyle at the Bike, I have played with him online, and like I stated nothing but respect for him...few have any concept of what he went through in the early days to have poker the way it is now.

Now you tell me if this is lucky, ok you be the judge. Doyle is dealt JcQd other player is holding AhAs. Flop comes Ac 4d 10C, AA bets out, doyle hits his gut shot on turn with Kc. AA raises cautiously into the possible straight, Doyle raises AA calls, river brings Qc giving Doyle the Royal. That is friggen lucky, 10 bracelets does not make you a one time Moneymake wonder, it is because you are a legend in the sport.

My only goal here is to tell people what happened (Like I told them I would), in fact I will probably stick around and see if I can learn or help with subjects.

Nope....not new to the site, just nevered botherd registering before. I am no fan however of the message lay out, confusing structure to follow a thread...at least to me.

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So he hit a gutshot to make him the best hand, and the river improved his hand to a stronger one? I don't think I've ever seen this happen in poker before.

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So he hit a gutshot to make him the best hand, and the river improved his hand to a stronger one? I don't think I've ever seen this happen in poker before.

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Yep....just one of those Royal Flushes see em all the time.

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So he hit a gutshot to make him the best hand, and the river improved his hand to a stronger one? I don't think I've ever seen this happen in poker before.

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live poker is rigged

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The only thing I am doing is exactly what I told them I would do...spread the word on their site and my experience.

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Okay, mission accomplished, but you're now hung up on not getting enough sympathy.

You need to set a stop-loss for this thread.

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So he hit a gutshot to make him the best hand, and the river improved his hand to a stronger one? I don't think I've ever seen this happen in poker before.

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Yep....just one of those Royal Flushes see em all the time.

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Party Poker (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
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Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
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River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Button folds.

Final Pot:



Party Poker (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
MP3 folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
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River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG folds, Button folds.

Final Pot:



Converter seems to be messed up, but they do happen.

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Yep....just one of those Royal Flushes see em all the time.


He's <font color="red">70</font>!!!

if this does NOT happen to you several times after playing for 50 years, then you are one UN-lucky sucker.

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The only thing I am doing is exactly what I told them I would do...spread the word on their site and my experience.

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Okay, mission accomplished, but you're now hung up on not getting enough sympathy.

You need to set a stop-loss for this thread.

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Ok so if I just posted this and left, I would be a hit and run artist...now that I am here trying to answer questions and defend the intent....I am looking for sympathy? So, no matter what I do I just can't do anything right is what you are saying. Damned if I do, damned if I don't, sorry man I am going to ride this out and explain myself...which I think I have.

Doyle\'s other room....my experience.
 

DOyle lent his name to Highland's poker 4 or 5 years ago. They were CS impaired as well, screwing me out of a small sum but causing me to badmouth them tirelessly. They folded PDQ. Was I a part of their demise? I hope so.

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So he hit a gutshot to make him the best hand, and the river improved his hand to a stronger one? I don't think I've ever seen this happen in poker before.

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Yep....just one of those Royal Flushes see em all the time.

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Party Poker (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
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Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
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River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Button folds.

Final Pot:



Party Poker (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
MP3 folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
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River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG folds, Button folds.

Final Pot:



Converter seems to be messed up, but they do happen.

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Sorry if I am missing your point here, if I was here to talk about someone hitting a gut shot against a set and not losig to a boat...whopty freaking dooo...not even worth my time. I never said they don't happen, I have had them before, I have lost with quad 7s to a straight flush....happens. That isn't the debate if there is even a debate here, it is about it is a Royal Flush, and the odds to hit one, especially a runner runner Royal Flush. You do understand the odds involed correct? You don't think this is about a gut shot.....right? To Say they are something you see all the time...well something is wrong with your site you are on or your dealer is a mechanic, they are rare...that is what I was saying...sure they happen.

Re: Doyle\'s Room....my experience.
 

Those hands are both runner-runner Royal Flushes

Re: Doyle\'s Room....my experience.
 

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Those hands are both runner-runner Royal Flushes

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Come on Scotty....you get the point right? How many are in your database that you came up with 2? I don't know if you are trying to be devils advocate or something....but I am sorry Royal Flushes are just that...super fricken rare and if I see one runner runner it is worth a mention as extremely lucky.

Re: Doyle\'s Room....my experience.
 

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Those hands are both runner-runner Royal Flushes

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Come on Scotty....you get the point right? How many are in your database that you came up with 2? I don't know if you are trying to be devils advocate or something....but I am sorry Royal Flushes are just that...super fricken rare and if I see one runner runner it is worth a mention as extremely lucky.

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I don't even know what sort of point I'm trying to make, I'm just bored. Everyone does hit their Royals though if they play enough.