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pokerdirty 10-11-2005 09:05 AM

***The OFFICAL Yankees Offseason Speculation Thread***
 
Is Torre coming back? Mel(please, no!)? Bernie([img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img])?

Will Steinbrenner start executing employees?

Will Matsui re-sign? Which free agents are coming to NY?

It's going to be a looooooong offseason, but let the speculation begin.

xadrez 10-11-2005 09:19 AM

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So, you want Torre out?

pokerdirty 10-11-2005 09:29 AM

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So, you want Torre out?

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No, and I think he will come back. 2 years and 13 million, who wouldn't? With what he has done with this team this year, after the awful start, I don't see how anyone could doubt him being a top 5 manager in the biggs (i know you haters are out there). Without Torre in '05, the Yanks wouldn't have made the playoffs, let alone take it to 5 games against a team everyone had beating the yanks anyways.

xadrez 10-11-2005 09:38 AM

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No, and I think he will come back. 2 years and 13 million, who wouldn't? With what he has done with this team this year, after the awful start, I don't see how anyone could doubt him being a top 5 manager in the biggs (i know you haters are out there). Without Torre in '05, the Yanks wouldn't have made the playoffs, let alone take it to 5 games against a team everyone had beating the yanks anyways.

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I think you are totally correct here. The fault for the Yanks recent futility is mostly due to bad decision making in the offseason. ie:Steinbrenner not listening to his "baseball people"

DRKEVDC 10-11-2005 10:01 AM

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What are the chances that they go after Damon? I am a Sox fan and am torn on whether or not we should re-sign him.

Karak567 10-11-2005 11:46 AM

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Torre will be back.

Mel will not (by his own choice).

Bernie I put at 50/50 to resigning the Yanks or not resigning.

Matsui will almost certainly be back.

Brian Cashman... 50/50 again whether he is coming back or not. I think the GM position is the biggest off season move we will see, as this affects everything else.

lastsamurai 10-11-2005 02:24 PM

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They need a center fielder. I think this is the problem the yankees have if you compare the World Series Championship years and 2001 on.

Top 5 HR leaders for the yankees during their WS years.
2000
Bernie Williams OF 30
Jorge Posada C 28
David Justice OF 20
Paul O'Neill OF 18
Scott Brosius 3B 16
1999
Tino Martinez 1B 28
Bernie Williams OF 25
Derek Jeter SS 24
Chili Davis DH 19
Paul O'Neill OF 19
1998
Tino Martinez 1B 28
Bernie Williams OF 26
Paul O'Neill OF 24
Darryl StrawberryDH 24
Scott Brosius 3B 19


1996
Bernie Williams OF 29
Tino Martinez 1B 25
Paul O'Neill OF 19
Cecil Fielder DH 13
Ruben Sierra DH 11

2005
Alex Rodriguez 48
Gary Sheffield 34
Jason Giambi 32
Hideki Matsui 23
Derek Jeter 19

Does anybody see the pattern?

pokerdirty 10-11-2005 02:25 PM

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[ QUOTE ]

Does anybody see the pattern?

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that we hit a lot more home runs now?

lastsamurai 10-11-2005 02:28 PM

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Too many individuals on the team...nobody wanted to step up in the playoffs!!!!!!!!

brettbrettr 10-11-2005 02:35 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Torre will be back.

Mel will not (by his own choice).

Bernie I put at 50/50 to resigning the Yanks or not resigning.

Matsui will almost certainly be back.

Brian Cashman... 50/50 again whether he is coming back or not. I think the GM position is the biggest off season move we will see, as this affects everything else.

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I think Cashman is gone. Damon Opper-something will get the job. Torre comes back, I'm sure they ask Bernie back as a DH/ back-up outfielder and I'm sure he comes back b/c no one wanys to see him wearing another uniform and he doesn't talk like he's ready to retire.

I think there's a 3% chance Matsui goes back to Japan, otherwise, he's back.

Yes, Steinbrenner likes Damon. Unless the Sox trade Manny and pay Damon, I wouldn't be surprised to see him in pinstripes. I'd rather do something else...

brettbrettr 10-11-2005 02:52 PM

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Oh, and of course we're going to stock up on middle relievers.
Any ideas of who's available?

pokerdirty 10-11-2005 02:53 PM

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if bernie's coming back, it will will be for no more than 3mil. or i'm writing steinbrenner myself. i [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] bernie, but i think it's time for him to "fade away"

pokerdirty 10-11-2005 02:54 PM

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Oh, and of course we're going to stock up on middle relievers.
Any ideas of who's available?

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we could buy the angels, contract them, and take theirs!

brettbrettr 10-11-2005 02:59 PM

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we could buy the angels, contract them, and take theirs!

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Maybe you should replace Cashman. You'd have my support.

See, that's the logical next step for the Yankees. [censored] this woo this guy, deal with his scumbag agent, sign him for more than he's worth, then see if he can convice his teammates to come along. Just buy the team that has the most of what you covet and tell the players that this is how its going to be. I like it. I like it a lot.

Walter Pullis 10-11-2005 03:11 PM

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The Yankees have turned into the Atlanta Braves. You just know they will make the playoffs next year, but lose again in the first or second round. They need a massive turnover in players
to turn them into a real force, but I don't know how they can do this.

brettbrettr 10-11-2005 03:14 PM

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The Yankees have turned into the Atlanta Braves.

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Does that mean we get their pitching coach?

ThaSaltCracka 10-11-2005 03:23 PM

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Mazzone will be the yankees pitching coach next year.

[censored] 10-11-2005 03:37 PM

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The Rotation looks set unless Johnson retires
Mussina
Johnson
Pavone
Wright
Wang/Small

Relief I think you have Rivera and I would think Gordon comes back but everything else after that is up for grabs.

Infield
coming back
CA.Pasada
2B.Cano
22.Jeter
3B.ARod

now the question is do they go after a First Basemen (which I would like) and use Giambi soley has a DH. I'm not sure who is available. If not them the entire infield returns and the DH spot is open (bernie is not an viable option here IMO)

Outfield
I would think Matsui is resigned. The big hole is in CF. I really hope they don't sign Johnny Damon as I can't stand him. He'd probably get the job done though.

ThaSaltCracka 10-11-2005 03:39 PM

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put Giambi at DH and just find a 1B that has good defense.

kschellenger 10-11-2005 03:49 PM

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Oh, and of course we're going to stock up on middle relievers.
Any ideas of who's available?

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Joe Mays

brettbrettr 10-11-2005 04:06 PM

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Mazzone will be the yankees pitching coach next year.

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He's just going to up and leave Atlanta...now? How long has he been there? 20 years?

technologic 10-11-2005 04:27 PM

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now the question is do they go after a First Basemen (which I would like) and use Giambi soley has a DH. I'm not sure who is available. If not them the entire infield returns and the DH spot is open (bernie is not an viable option here IMO)

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i think konerko's available

Phoenix1010 10-11-2005 04:35 PM

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1998
Tino Martinez 1B 28
Bernie Williams OF 26
Paul O'Neill OF 24
Darryl StrawberryDH 24
Scott Brosius 3B 19

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Seeing these names almost brings a tear to my eye. Why do great players have to get old (or addicted to coke)? Man, that was a magical time.

CCass 10-11-2005 04:43 PM

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Mazzone will be the yankees pitching coach next year.

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Care to make a friendly wager about where Mazzone is at next year?

pokerdirty 10-12-2005 05:35 PM

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my biggest concern, as it has been for the past couple of years, is middle relief. Do Aaron Small and C. Wang go to the pen next year with a rotation of Johnson, Moose, Pavano, & Wright, +1?

sublime 10-12-2005 05:41 PM

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Yankees offseason:

See which free agents are demanding most money.

Decide between them.

Watch Boston make 'cute' moves to catch up with us.

lu_hawk 10-12-2005 05:53 PM

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put Giambi at DH and just find a 1B that has good defense.

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Defense at first base isn't that important.

10-12-2005 05:53 PM

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Yankees offseason:

See which free agents are demanding most money.

Decide between them.

Watch Boston make 'cute' moves to catch up with us.

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Then battle all of 2006 to see who is superior, as another team goes off to win the World Series again. Goot Strat.

Voltron87 10-12-2005 05:55 PM

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bj ryan, please come to new york.

pokerdirty 10-12-2005 06:08 PM

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bj ryan, please come to new york.

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that deal is already inked.

pokerdirty 10-12-2005 06:10 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Yankees offseason:

See which free agents are demanding most money.

Decide between them.

Watch Boston make 'cute' moves to catch up with us.

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well, considering 2 of the major guys we are considering come from beantown...i don't think this applies this year.

sublime 10-12-2005 06:11 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Yankees offseason:

See which free agents are demanding most money.

Decide between them.

Watch Boston make 'cute' moves to catch up with us.

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well, considering 2 of the major guys we are considering come from beantown...i don't think this applies this year.

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yeah, it does.

pokerdirty 10-12-2005 06:51 PM

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2189283

stottlemyre gone [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Who would have guessed?!?

James282 10-12-2005 07:18 PM

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Pavone? I know he was injured a lot, but come on.
-James

JoeU 10-12-2005 09:41 PM

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The Rotation looks set unless Johnson retires
Mussina
Johnson
Pavone
Wright
Wang/Small

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On one of the NY radio stations, someone had mentioned a staff of:

Johnson
Mussina
Pavano
Wang
Chacon

Wright and Small would go to the bullpen as long relief / spot starters. I think Wright would be a little pricey in this type of role, but I also think that this gives the Yanks the best options for a starting staff.

As far as the outfield goes, I heard Juan Pierre's name being thrown around today on the radio too. Does anyone know his contract status? I'd think he'd be a better fit than Damon just on age.

Joe

bravos1 10-12-2005 10:33 PM

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Mazzone will be the yankees pitching coach next year.

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Only in your WILDEST (and wettest) dreams!

pokerdirty 10-18-2005 03:22 PM

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TORRE IS COMING BACK!!!!

YAAAY!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2195140

pokerdirty 10-26-2005 05:09 PM

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2203797

Cashman offered 3 Year deal worth $5.6mil. meh.

Aceshigh7 10-26-2005 05:18 PM

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I heard this might have been Matsui's last year with the Yanks. Don't think he is a FA so does that mean they have been talking about trading him? If so, we'll give you Chris Burke for Matsui straight up.

pokerdirty 10-26-2005 05:24 PM

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godzilla is a FA


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