AQ river decision
 

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Well there's a good flop. Strange amount of action though.

Turn: (10 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Hmm...

River: (13 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero..

Well, I'm losing to a lot of hands here, but the pot's awful big. Comments?

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i'm probably a glutton for punishment and calling this river [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] 2 pair goofballs [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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i can't believe neither of them raised the turn with A9/AT/AJ, or that either of them raised the flop with KQ.

i have to call.

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i can't believe neither of them raised the turn with A9/AT/AJ, or that either of them raised the flop with KQ.

i have to call.

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likewise

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Fold that river. Any reads on your opponents? If UTG is especially tight and passive, I would be tempted to fold on the flop. But anything other than a cap here is usually pretty silly.

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Given the action and the fact that many players at this limit get fancy with big hands, I think that 99-JJ are definite possibilities.

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Fold that river. Any reads on your opponents? If UTG is especially tight and passive, I would be tempted to fold on the flop. But anything other than a cap here is usually pretty silly.

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UTG is 42/3/1.5 over 131 hands
BB is 41/5.8/.67 over 69 hands

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If UTG is especially tight and passive, I would be tempted to fold on the flop. But anything other than a cap here is usually pretty silly.

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LOL.

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Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ac Qd (three of a kind, aces).
BB doesn't show.
UTG has As Js (full house, aces full of jacks).
Outcome: UTG wins 23.12 BB. </font>

Edit: BB had <font color="#FFFFFF">99</font>

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You're playing against loose passives, then. I would probably fold the river although it may be a mistake. The PokerTracker stats aren't complete enough reads for me to make my decision, though. Against some players I would fold this without a doubt. I'm thinking 99-JJ.

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Fold that river. Any reads on your opponents? If UTG is especially tight and passive, I would be tempted to fold on the flop. But anything other than a cap here is usually pretty silly.

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UTG is 42/3/1.5 over 131 hands
BB is 41/5.8/.67 over 69 hands

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honestly, why wouldn't you put these in the original post?

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Tag BB: Tricky bastard.

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i would note bb: "idiot - no turn raise with 99 on AA9T"

utg played his hand well minus the preflop limp. i would note him as respectful of preflop raises and remind myself to be cautious against river aggression from him.

with purely stat reads given, i would be scared of bb holding AJ on this river - his aggression factor (after few hands, admittedly) looks low enough that he would not raise AJ on the turn. when he wakes up on the river and utg makes it 3, i think you can't win often enough.

against unknowns, my previous line stands.

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Fold that river. Any reads on your opponents? If UTG is especially tight and passive, I would be tempted to fold on the flop. But anything other than a cap here is usually pretty silly.

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UTG is 42/3/1.5 over 131 hands
BB is 41/5.8/.67 over 69 hands

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honestly, why wouldn't you put these in the original post?

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lazy

and the stats are a little misleading. the passive AF guy was on some tilt, he had raised the last 3 hands PF after his KK lost to A3 (he thought it was an embarassingly bad beat).

but mostly because i was lazy. sorry.

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Fold that river. Any reads on your opponents? If UTG is especially tight and passive, I would be tempted to fold on the flop. But anything other than a cap here is usually pretty silly.

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UTG is 42/3/1.5 over 131 hands
BB is 41/5.8/.67 over 69 hands

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honestly, why wouldn't you put these in the original post?

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lazy

and the stats are a little misleading. the passive AF guy was on some tilt, he had raised the last 3 hands PF after his KK lost to A3 (he thought it was an embarassingly bad beat).

but mostly because i was lazy. sorry.

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dude come on, haha. this is even more information that can make the responses better. you should try to put all the information you know in the original hand post.

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Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ac Qd (three of a kind, aces).
BB doesn't show.
UTG has As Js (full house, aces full of jacks).
Outcome: UTG wins 23.12 BB. </font>



Edit: BB had <font color="#FFFFFF">99</font>

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Fold that river. Any reads on your opponents? If UTG is especially tight and passive, I would be tempted to fold on the flop. But anything other than a cap here is usually pretty silly.

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UTG is 42/3/1.5 over 131 hands
BB is 41/5.8/.67 over 69 hands

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honestly, why wouldn't you put these in the original post?

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lazy

and the stats are a little misleading. the passive AF guy was on some tilt, he had raised the last 3 hands PF after his KK lost to A3 (he thought it was an embarassingly bad beat).

but mostly because i was lazy. sorry.

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dude come on, haha. this is even more information that can make the responses better. you should try to put all the information you know in the original hand post.

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lazy

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Call the river. You'll win it more than 1 in 10 times, which is all you need.