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Anyone else agree?

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Yes but not for the same reasons that you do.

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no, explain pls

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I think it COULD be.

I'm not going so far as to say that it WILL be though because I really don't know.
But I definitely think the potential is there.

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YES

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I'm buying a new car - that's how sure I am.

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Now is the time for Stars to start TV ads stating what rake is and that Stars is less than party.

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I'm buying a new car - that's how sure I am.

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Cool, glad you agree. I just quit my job to turn pro after reading the recent developments.

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I completely agree...but I'm in the minority, I think

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I want to see what other people think first.

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I was going to make a similar post - hopefully this will lead to increased competition.

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I do, but it's too much fun to flip out with everyone else to start talking about the good of it all.

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Maket diversity is usually always good in the long run. I may have to agree.

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I do, but it's too much fun to flip out with everyone else to start talking about the good of it all.

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RAKEBACK!

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I want to see what other people think first.

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lowest rake war?

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I do, but it's too much fun to flip out with everyone else to start talking about the good of it all.

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Yeah, no doubt. Just wanted to see if I was the only one.

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I want to see what other people think first.

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Then go read the ten thousand posts in the nine other threads that make it pretty clear what other people think.

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Good for me. I was losing the desire to play online poker anyways. Ah, this just means more time to work on school. I don't mind.

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Long term- maybe-probably price wars are cool.

short term- bahhh

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Depends on who you are. For a breakeven player who relies on rakeback for a living, this is catastrophic news (though in the long run perhaps such a player will now be motivated to learn to really win at poker.) For a decent player, this could be quite positive.

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You get less money now. This will be a good thing. Can you see why?

Will the pollyannaffiliates please step up to the microphone and enlighten us poor unfortunate Stupid People why we should be happy?

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I have a better idea.

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It's great for me... I play on Party and earn 0% rakeback and make my poker money the traditional by winning it.

Less multi-tabling TAG on skins = thousands more $ in my pocket.

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Well, for one thing, right now on Party it says "34,400 players on 4,520 tables". In a few days, when all of the 10-tabling 2+2'ers transfer their funds over to Party, you'll see "81,523 players on 10,256 tables".

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The 800 pound gorilla has been dismantled. There will be tons of players willing to look for a new poker home and sites offering us more deals to lure us?

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You get less money now. This will be a good thing. Can you see why?

Will the pollyannaffiliates please step up to the microphone and enlighten us poor unfortunate Stupid People why we should be happy?

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Hmm, are you saying I'm an affiliate? Because I'm not.

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It's great for me... I play on Party and earn 0% rakeback and make my poker money the traditional by winning it.

Less multi-tabling TAG on skins = thousands more $ in my pocket.

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and where are the TAGs going?

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I would have thought we would have already seen decreases in rake already, but instead it has been the opposite. So no I don't think there is reason to believe this will be a good thing.

There is that possibility though.

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Absolutely, short-term this is horrible news for the type of player you described.

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I agree and for the same reason

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If party realizes that they just lost a bunch of multitableing tags, what do you think they will do? I don't want to get my hopes up. I really don't believe that party is that bright.

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It's great for me... I play on Party and earn 0% rakeback and make my poker money the traditional by winning it.

Less multi-tabling TAG on skins = thousands more $ in my pocket.

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You realize that you would already have thousands more in your pocket if you had rakeback right? But, uh, you go on being "pure" or whatever, good for you...

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Totally changing the subject, but whatever happened with that chargeback situation you had many moons ago when you were an affiliate?

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No, you are actually one of my favorite posters on 2+2 (up there with Lorinda & GM). I had no idea whether you were an affiliate but since you say you are not, I believe you.

I'd welcome <font color="red"> your </font> thoughts on why this is possibly good for the +2BBs/100 (excluding RB) players like myself who just saw their hourly earn rate drop 25%+. I'd love some good news about now.

Suffice it to say I will be more skeptical of positive spins or analysis from Party skin affiliates looking to protect their golden geese.

As always, I am amazed at how much good thinking there CAN be on 2+2 and how entertaining the BS that surrounds it can be. Tonight's a great example.

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If party realizes that they just lost a bunch of multitableing tags, what do you think they will do? I don't want to get my hopes up. I really don't believe that party is that bright.

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Does it matter, they will wisen up or die, such is life.

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Totally changing the subject, but whatever happened with that chargeback situation you had many moons ago when you were an affiliate?

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I settled for a certain amount and switched to a CPA plan, which was not a good idea. It was good short-term, because back then I needed the cash, but I'd definitely be making a good amount now if I'd just been willing to take the short-term losses.

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Well, you can read some of the comments here. Lots of us can't get by without rakeback, and in any event it's going to take sometime for the TAGs to move their bankrolls over to Party. As I understand it, no more 12 or 16 tabling as well.

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Hmm, are you saying I'm an affiliate? Because I'm not.

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No, you are actually one of my favorite posters on 2+2 (up there with Lorinda &amp; GM). I had no idea whether you were an affiliate but since you say you are not, I believe you.

I'd welcome <font color="red"> your </font> thoughts on why this is possibly good for the +2BBs/100 (excluding RB) players like myself who just saw their hourly earn rate drop 25%+. I'd love some good news about now.

Suffice it to say I will be more skeptical of positive spins or analysis from Party skin affiliates looking to protect their golden geese.

As always, I am amazed at how much good thinking there CAN be on 2+2 and how entertaining the BS that surrounds it can be. Tonight's a great example.

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Well, with regard to the present, I have no good news. I think this will make things better 6-12 months from now. I could easily be wrong, of course.

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party is clearly making a good business move here, but if they offered a better rakeback/bonus system it would be checkmate on the poker world. i dont get it.