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who wants to gamble with James???
Party 2k NL,
im sure a few of you would call here and most of you would fold. it doesn't matter what i did im just curious what % of MHNL wants to put it in on a flip limpy=ish game 2 limpers to me i limp with 9h8h. sometimes i raise here, sometimes i dont, now i didn't. james is in the bb and he checks right along, i have position and its 4 handed. james has about 3k and i have about 3k. flop is 6h5hXx james comes right out and bets like 77 or 80 or so. 1 caller and i make it 200. james doesn't even HESITATE for a second and just pushes it all in so its like 2.8k for me to call getting for all intents and purposes 1:1 on the call. who calls here, who folds? what does he have? -Barron A few notes: i dont always raise this flop. sometimes i call. this time i decided to raise. i dont always limp behind, this time i did...so of course we can all play this differently...i just wanna know who gambles. |
Re: who wants to gamble with James???
you'll check-raise king-5 high but fold this? I call because i like to gamble. I try to stick to limit because i like to gamble.
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Re: who wants to gamble with James???
Flop was 6x5h2h.
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Re: who wants to gamble with James???
I would call and justify it by saying that I was being laid a decent price and he might be overplaying such-and-such hand and it'll be good for image and blah-blah-blah but really I would call because I do not like folding.
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i gamble and call. From james's correction i'm beginning to think he had A2h or similiar, and you were in a lot of trouble.
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flop is 6h5hXx james comes right out and bets like 77 or 80 or so. 1 caller and i make it 200 [/ QUOTE ] This looks very bad to me. Call or make it something like 350. As for the decision at hand fold he has big hearts here too often for a call to be right. -dirt |
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I changed my mind, nevermind
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Why did you raise the flop? I fold to his push every time. I can't believe so many people are calling. I knew Party games ruled, but....
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Re: who wants to gamble with James???
pretty simple and clear fold.
when the best case scenario is that you are a slight underdog (an unlikely TT), and at worse case you are significantly buried: Ah 6h...you fold. you are 43-57 against a hand like 62 top and bottom, and 33-67 against 22 bottom set. now what hands is he bet-3betting all in huge on this flop? his range has you crushed. fold all day and then feel bad for raising the flop. |
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I don't think it's a coinflip - best case scenario he's probably also on a draw but his is bigger - KhTh, QhJh, etc. I've also seen bottom sets played this way, and black 45o. The only card that's a clear winner is a 7, and if he does have a set/two pair combo then he still has redraws. Bad spot and too deep stacked to gamble. Easy fold.
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Re: who wants to gamble with James???
Not quite, best case is he is favourite, against:
43 no heart he has 53% equity A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] he has 35.2% 66 no heart he has 40.3% He needs about 46% equity to call If dcfer can take hearts out of his hand range then he can call. After all, doesn't this look a lot like and overbet with 'the nuts'? How else would he play 34o? then again the 2 would probably not have been X-ed out in the OP if this were the case |
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I fold to his push every time. I can't believe so many people are calling. [/ QUOTE ] |
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im sure a few of you would call here and most of you would fold. it doesn't matter what i did im just curious what % of MHNL wants to put it in on a flip [/ QUOTE ] this is no where near a flip a very large % of the time |
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[ QUOTE ] I fold to his push every time. I can't believe so many people are calling. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I fold to his push every time. I can't believe so many people are calling. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] |
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Since I voted fold there doesn't seem to be much else to say. This is not a coin flip. I can't find a single post that has a sound reason for calling.
The flop raise does not look like a rational play. |
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Why did you raise the flop? I fold to his push every time. I can't believe so many people are calling. I knew Party games ruled, but.... [/ QUOTE ] i knew the flop raise was bad the second i made it...the limit part of me did it. its a clear call b/c if i raise i just priced myself out of the hand a good portion of the time...whereas in limit that hand is worth a cap w/ 2 players there. plus james isn't exactly what id call passive. Barron |
RESULTS
I folded. and hated myself for raising.
turns out i was a 50.2% favorite...the very definition of a coin flip. James had 6h4h for a pair + straight + flush draw. and i was the very definition of a coin flip. Barron |
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and that is the very definition of being in one of the best possible spots against his push.
calling an all-in preflop with 22 will put you in a flip some % of the time against an AK. |
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I dont mind your flop raise as everyone else does, but it seems in your posts you arent really raising enough (fwiw I think people think the flop raise was bad because of what happened in the hand...) You made it 120 more into a pot of 320. This is simply not enough.
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Re: who wants to gamble with James???
well, james has a straight for sure, so just a simple math problem which is very close.
bc its a capped games i think you should probably call here. |
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well, james has a straight for sure, so just a simple math problem which is very close. bc its a capped games i think you should probably call here. [/ QUOTE ] Are you kidding? |
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[ QUOTE ] well, james has a straight for sure, so just a simple math problem which is very close. bc its a capped games i think you should probably call here. [/ QUOTE ] Are you kidding? [/ QUOTE ]getting 33:28 pot odds. 53:47 dog against 43o. having big stack is an advantage in a capped game. busting james will be fun for dcifr as they are buddies. why not call here again? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] well, james has a straight for sure, so just a simple math problem which is very close. bc its a capped games i think you should probably call here. [/ QUOTE ] Are you kidding? [/ QUOTE ]getting 33:28 pot odds. 53:47 dog against 43o. having big stack is an advantage in a capped game. busting james will be fun for dcifr as they are buddies. why not call here again? [/ QUOTE ] sorry, i must have missed the sentence in the original post that said james had 34o. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] well, james has a straight for sure, so just a simple math problem which is very close. bc its a capped games i think you should probably call here. [/ QUOTE ] Are you kidding? [/ QUOTE ]getting 33:28 pot odds. 53:47 dog against 43o. having big stack is an advantage in a capped game. busting james will be fun for dcifr as they are buddies. why not call here again? [/ QUOTE ] sorry, i must have missed the sentence in the original post that said james had 34o. [/ QUOTE ]come on. |
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come on. [/ QUOTE ] you come on. fwiw results are in this thread and he didnt have 34o. not that that matters. you dont think he pushes 66/55 like this? even a3/a4 hearts? |
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ok i take it back... i dont know james and maybe he would pull this stunt w/ Ah4h i dont know. maybe.
i dont think hell show you two pair/set ever. ok, fine fold. pay no attention to me, i am presumptuous. maybe i outthought myself on here looking for an excuse to gamble. i just just woke up. i need coffee. |
Re: who wants to gamble with James???
Too bad we didn't have this post while playing the hand.
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[ QUOTE ] come on. [/ QUOTE ] you come on. fwiw results are in this thread and he didnt have 34o. not that that matters. you dont think he pushes 66/55 like this? even a3/a4 hearts? [/ QUOTE ]oh? (already responded) p.s. im about to edit all my posts, you are making me look like the fool i am! |
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p.s. im about to edit all my posts, you are making me look like the fool i am! [/ QUOTE ] too late kid. |
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[ QUOTE ] come on. [/ QUOTE ] fwiw results are in this thread and he didnt have 34o. not that that matters. [/ QUOTE ]oh sh!t. im gonna get AZK to delete this thread! haha. i just woke up! BTW/ plz note that calling is +EV. |
Re: who wants to gamble with James???
i dont get it
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i dont get it [/ QUOTE ] well, you can throw in some chips, or avoid the call. i folded...but what would you personally have done. Barron |
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[ QUOTE ] i dont get it [/ QUOTE ] well, you can throw in some chips, or avoid the call. i folded...but what would you personally have done. Barron [/ QUOTE ] fold |
Re: who wants to gamble with James???
dont understand the flop raise
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Re: who wants to gamble with James???
In all seriousness, posts like this belong in SSNL.
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Why did you raise the flop? I fold to his push every time. I can't believe so many people are calling. I knew Party games ruled, but.... [/ QUOTE ] |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I fold to his push every time. I can't believe so many people are calling. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Yeah. C'mon.. Hero is a slight dog at best with 12 outs. |
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