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DesertCat 10-03-2005 07:11 PM

Johnny Chan - Worst Choke of All Time
 
No I'm not talking about his suckout with QQ vs. AA in the Pot Limit event where he won his tenth bracelet. That's poker.

I'm talking about the time where the hopes of the entire world rested on Mr. Chan's shoulders, and he gacked. The one time in his life, that if he rose to the challenge, your life, my life and the lives of millions of people would have been made so much better.

I am of course, talking about the 1989 WSOP, where if he beats Phil Hellmuth, there is no world famous "poker brat". No Phil faced poker chips, mugs, and chip protectors. No Hellmuth shirts. No everpresent Phil Hellmuth being lionized by Norman Chad, making smarmy comments in response to silly questions.

I thought of all this while I watched ESPN's coverage of Johnny's 10th bracelet. While Phil came to the table and actually wished Johnny luck. We all know what a painfully insincere moment that was, by the look on his face Johnny didn't buy it either. Johnny just endured it, looking like he wanted for Phil to go far, far away.

It made me smile. Johnny deserved that painful moment, his "payback" for not taking care of business in 89.

Don't even let me get started on his laying down to Mike McDermott...

daryn 10-03-2005 07:47 PM

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use some of your phil hellmuth hating energy on your game, you might become a winning player someday

Jordan Olsommer 10-03-2005 07:52 PM

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Don't even let me get started on his laying down to Mike McDermott...

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Tell me about it - what was he getting, like 10-to-1? He could've at least seen a flop...

The_Missile 10-03-2005 07:53 PM

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I thought you were serious until that last comment about his laydown in Rounders...

At least I hope you're not serious..............

27offsuit 10-03-2005 07:58 PM

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use some of your phil hellmuth hating energy on your game, you might become a winning player someday

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daryn, you been spending time at the woods lately act III-ing it?

daryn 10-03-2005 08:19 PM

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use some of your phil hellmuth hating energy on your game, you might become a winning player someday

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daryn, you been spending time at the woods lately act III-ing it?

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no i was in europe all for a month now i'm back but it's such a hassle to drive down there alone. maybe i could get a room or something, stay a few days, but i will definitely satellite into that joint

what kind of schedule are the act iii's on?

Joseph Busti 10-03-2005 11:45 PM

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I am of course, talking about the 1989 WSOP, where if he beats Phil Hellmuth, there is no world famous "poker brat".

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Yeah, he would just be another guy with 8 WSOP bracelets.

etizzle 10-04-2005 12:10 AM

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where do you live in boston? im in cambridge and will probably be going to fwoods fairly often starting in a couple weeks.

DesertCat 10-04-2005 12:32 AM

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use some of your phil hellmuth hating energy on your game, you might become a winning player someday

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Everytime I get pocket kings and someone re-raises me, I see a vision of Lord Hellmuth's face telling me to lay them down. It's killing me at the .50/1 games, I think I'll be moving up around the time Phil learns to take a suckout graciously.

lighterjobs 10-04-2005 12:36 AM

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seriously, how am I supposed to protect my cards without my poker brat card protector? with a god damn poker chip?!

http://www.gambling-weblog.com/archi...s/hellmuth.jpg
i love you

10-04-2005 12:46 AM

Re: Johnny Chan - Worst Choke of All Time
 
ahh, you have the old one, mine has phil "hitting the deck" like he did against jesus.

my favorite part of that hand was the fact that he stayed in with an inside straight draw to awful pot odds, then complained about being outdrawn.

poker on tv... every attention whore's wet dream

baumer 10-04-2005 03:50 AM

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he stayed in with an inside straight draw to good implied odds, then complained about being outdrawn.

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FYP

daryn 10-04-2005 06:00 AM

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where do you live in boston? im in cambridge and will probably be going to fwoods fairly often starting in a couple weeks.

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woburn, i'm looking to get down there also

ghcnoob 10-04-2005 09:18 AM

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Yeah, he would just be another guy with 8 WSOP bracelets

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MMMMMM 10-04-2005 10:26 AM

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use some of your phil hellmuth hating energy on your game, you might become a winning player someday


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It worked for the Red Sox.

lighterjobs 10-04-2005 06:44 PM

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he stayed in with an inside straight draw to -397 to 14 reverse implied odds, then complained about being outdrawn.

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fyp

baumer 10-04-2005 08:22 PM

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What did Phil have, an inside straight draw and a backdoor nut flush draw?
how much did Ferguson bet?
how much did Ferguson have behind?

I just watched this the other day and thought it wasn't that bad.
Although I can't stand when Phil opens his mouth I didn't think his call was a huge mistake.

27offsuit 10-06-2005 12:18 AM

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use some of your phil hellmuth hating energy on your game, you might become a winning player someday

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daryn, you been spending time at the woods lately act III-ing it?

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no i was in europe all for a month now i'm back but it's such a hassle to drive down there alone. maybe i could get a room or something, stay a few days, but i will definitely satellite into that joint

what kind of schedule are the act iii's on?

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good luck. it's going to heat up in the coming weeks


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