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DoomSlice 10-03-2005 07:09 PM

When do I stop raising?
 
Villain in this hand is 80/50/11 (wow!!!) over 50ish hands.

Villain is UTG.
Hero is BB with J5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villain bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop (6SB): 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero checks, Villain bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn (4.5BB): 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero bets, Villain raises, Hero 3-bets, Villain caps?

Plan for river?

Greg J 10-03-2005 07:12 PM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
I go balls to the wall unless the board pairs. If the board pairs I check raise and call a 3 bet. I'm a pussy.

EDIT: Where did button go?

pryor15 10-03-2005 07:14 PM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
how much can you get in there?

there are so many hands he could be playing and you beat almost all of them.

10-03-2005 07:15 PM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
Cap the turn, and go to war on the river, right? You already determined that villain is so crazy that it makes sense to call a pf raise with J5s, so by the same reasoning I think you should step on the gas when you hit something and make him pay. I don't see you behind anything here.

gharp 10-03-2005 07:15 PM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
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Villain in this hand is 80/50/11

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The 80 part makes me think he might actually be limping 85 UTG. But the 11 part makes me think you should probably cap most rivers.

Is button still involved in the hand? That would change things...

istewart 10-03-2005 07:15 PM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
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80/50/11

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Forget about sample size. Don't stop.

10-03-2005 07:17 PM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
With this meat puppet, I doubt even a board pairing would stop me from raising.

10-03-2005 07:19 PM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
Easiest river cap ever

DoomSlice 10-03-2005 07:35 PM

RESULTS
 
I capped the river and he showed 85s [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Oh well.

RiverDood 10-03-2005 07:41 PM

Re: RESULTS
 
put him on your buddy list. He wants to give you a lot of money. He just needs more chances

Greg J 10-03-2005 07:49 PM

Re: RESULTS
 
That happens to us all sometimes. One time there was this maniac -- i mean a stone cold psychopath at 1/2 Party several months ago. This cat was capping every street. He would have like T3o, cap preflop. Flop is AJ7 -- he caps that street, and don't you know he would get running T and 3 (raising all the way) and take down a monster pot.

So one hand I got him with QQ. Flop is Q32r. This cat caps preflop and the flop with J8o. Turn: T. Caps that street. River, of course: 9. I cap that street too.

Poker sucks sometimes. You learn to get over it. You played this hand well.

10-03-2005 07:49 PM

Re: RESULTS
 
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put him on your buddy list. He wants to give you a lot of money. He just needs more chances

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BUMP

DoomSlice 10-03-2005 07:56 PM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
Sorry, button dropped off on the turn.

10-03-2005 08:57 PM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
(grunching)
Rainbows are pretty.

He's obviously spewing, so maybe he'll figure it out, and slow down on the river. I say don't give him a free SD. Bet, 3-bet, and call a cap, if the board doesn't pair. Eh, maybe some will go for the c/r with this kind of LAG, since he capped the turn.

I can't see any hand that has you beat at the river, unless he has a set and the board pairs. Judging by your read, that is unlikely. What is his post-flop aggression?

10-03-2005 08:59 PM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
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Villain in this hand is 80/50/11

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The 80 part makes me think he might actually be limping 85 UTG.


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The dude didn't limp--he raised.

10-03-2005 11:57 PM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
Noone folds this preflop? I know I do.

I dunno about the river, probably cap. He could be in there with anything pf and i would be most likely see best case chopping though, so maybe just bet/call.

Student Caine 10-04-2005 12:37 AM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
I think you cap here and cap the river if the board doesn't get scary (i.e., no pair and no 5).

Given his desire to raise preflop (50%?!) I think we could very well be looking at a split pot here, seeing as how x5s is a hand he would play, but not raise. Obviously a small PP could be something he has (or even 67). With an AF of 11(wow!) he could have anything here, most of which you beat.

Student Caine 10-04-2005 12:39 AM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
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Noone folds this preflop? I know I do.

I dunno about the river, probably cap. He could be in there with anything pf and i would be most likely see best case chopping though, so maybe just bet/call.

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Hero is BB.

DCWildcat 10-04-2005 02:23 AM

Re: When do I stop raising?
 
Cap. A lot.


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