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AdamL 10-03-2005 11:40 AM

TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
> I just couldn't think of any hands I really beat
> here on the river. Is the turn a check-fold? I
> hate underpair oop.
>
> Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on
> zerodivide.cx
>
> Preflop: Hero is BB with Th, Tc.
> 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, 4 folds, Hero
> 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.
>
> Flop: (7.50 SB) 8d, 3h, Ad (2 players)
> Hero bets, MP1 calls.
>
> Turn: (4.75 BB) 3s (2 players)
> Hero bets, MP1 calls.
>
> River: (6.75 BB) Ks (2 players)
> Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero folds.
>
> Final Pot: 7.75 BB

lautzutao 10-03-2005 11:47 AM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
I don't even know if I could bet this turn...

AdamL 10-03-2005 11:52 AM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
I punched myself in the nuts before I did it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

lautzutao 10-03-2005 11:58 AM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
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I punched myself in the nuts before I did it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Wow, I usually just punch my couch pillow.

Redd 10-03-2005 12:14 PM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
I'd bet again on the turn as well, since there's still a sufficient chance he's holding 2 overs after not playig back. I also c/f the river because 99 doesn't happen often enough here. Nice hand.

bozlax 10-03-2005 12:17 PM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
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I punched myself in the nuts before I did it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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This is --EV.

lautzutao 10-03-2005 12:19 PM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
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I'd bet again on the turn as well, since there's still a sufficient chance he's holding 2 overs after not playig back. I also c/f the river because 99 doesn't happen often enough here. Nice hand.

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If he's calling the flop after a 3-bet by Hero, he's got AQ AJ and is willing to pay off AK or call down someones overplayed PP. Check/fold

POKhER 10-03-2005 12:25 PM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
i fold preflop and save myself some hassle VS a preflop raiser OOP.

lautzutao 10-03-2005 12:28 PM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
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i fold preflop and save myself some hassle VS a preflop raiser OOP.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is obviously sarcasm. Please tell me this is sarcasm.

@bsolute_luck 10-03-2005 12:29 PM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
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i fold preflop and save myself some hassle VS a preflop raiser OOP.

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this is a joke right?

edit: lautz beat me to it.

AdamL 10-03-2005 02:19 PM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
One thing I always wondered about was that if you can do this with a hand like TT, how much different exactly is doing it with say, 88? Just that you're behind 99 now as well as all those other high pp's?

10-03-2005 02:23 PM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
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One thing I always wondered about was that if you can do this with a hand like TT, how much different exactly is doing it with say, 88? Just that you're behind 99 now as well as all those other high pp's?

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I would like to second this

lautzutao 10-03-2005 02:25 PM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
I don't fold 88 here either. I'm not giving credit to players to big pairs over big Aces until I know them a bit better. But once an A or K hits the board...

Redd 10-03-2005 02:41 PM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
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I'd bet again on the turn as well, since there's still a sufficient chance he's holding 2 overs after not playig back. I also c/f the river because 99 doesn't happen often enough here. Nice hand.

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If he's calling the flop after a 3-bet by Hero, he's got AQ AJ and is willing to pay off AK or call down someones overplayed PP. Check/fold

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Meh, I don't hate a c/f here. But I could see this guy having K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q and thinking he's got up to 6 outs against you on the flop. Or two diamonds that will pay to draw. And there's a slim possibility of folding a better hand here with aggression if he's weak-tight.

DavidC 10-03-2005 06:34 PM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
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i fold preflop and save myself some hassle VS a preflop raiser OOP.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is obviously sarcasm. Please tell me this is sarcasm.

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Out of @L's 2800 posts, probably about 2750 are telling me to stop being a wuss and not be afraid to get my chips out there, so yeah, it's sarcasm. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Adam, I hope you have very well developed nut-callouses, because making these plays too often can lead to infertility.

DavidC 10-03-2005 06:35 PM

Re: TT oop, overcard, HU vs. unknown pfr.
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
One thing I always wondered about was that if you can do this with a hand like TT, how much different exactly is doing it with say, 88? Just that you're behind 99 now as well as all those other high pp's?

[/ QUOTE ]

I would like to second this

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I'd like to second this too, although I'm pretty sure that if we did a search, we'd probably find a post by AdamL in the form of a quiz... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]


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