89s 30/60
 

How does my line look? button 15/11/2.8. BB basic LPP. Co posted 15$ dead money to the pot.



- - - HAND Game - - -
PreFlop: <font color="blue">HERO</font> is SB with <font color="red">8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> <font color="red">9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> (9 Players)
5 <font color="darkred">folds</font>, CO checks, Button <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> calls, BB calls, 1 <font color="darkred">fold</font>,

Flop: (225.00 SB) <font color="blue">8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> <font color="blue">6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> (3 Players)
<font color="blue">HERO</font> checks, BB <font color="green">bets</font>, Button <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> calls, BB calls,

Turn: (405.00 BB) <font color="blue">8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> <font color="blue">6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> (3 Players)
<font color="blue">HERO</font> checks, BB checks, Button <font color="green">bets</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkred">folds</font>, BB calls,

River: (525.00 BB) <font color="blue">8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> <font color="blue">6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> <font color="green">9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font> (2 Players)
BB checks, Button checks,

Final Pot: 525.00 BB

Re: 89s 30/60
 

Looks good to me.

Re: 89s 30/60
 

Seems ok but I'd probably lean towards 3-betting the flop to make the hand easier to play.

Re: 89s 30/60
 

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Seems ok but I'd probably lean towards 3-betting the flop because i have the best hand and i can get people to fold 5-6 live outs

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fyp.

Re: 89s 30/60
 

Calling seems odd on the flop, the way you played it you are calling 2 cold for a five outer and saying you have the worst hand, if you believe this, then folding is clearly the play. Betting the flop makes the hand much easier to play, this way you let players define their hand more. If the BB raises your bet, then you know he also hit this flop, if the button then 3-bets, you know you are smoked and can fold for only losing 1 bet. if button just cold calls, you can assume you are ahead probably, and either 3-bet or call. The truth is, you are probably folding the turn either way, but calling two cold on the flop seems quite poor to me, as it accomlpishes nothing in the way of defining hands, protecting your hand, or value betting. Also when you decide you have 5 outs, you shouldn't call 2 cold

Re: 89s 30/60
 

i think against most button raisers who will autobet this flop check raising &gt; betting

Re: 89s 30/60
 

YOu were going to checkraise the flop right? Do it anyway. For the love of god don't just check and call two cold, then check and fold when a single overcard hits. This hand was butchered. YOu haven't shown any strength here, you can at best narrow your opponents range to something very wide, and now you have to fold because you've played our hand so weakly.

Check 3bet the flop. All your troubles started when you check coldcalled the flop with a made hand.

Re: 89s 30/60
 

Does anyone fold preflop?

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Does anyone fold preflop?

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Re: 89s 30/60
 

Unless the raiser plays very poorly post flop (fit or fold, spews, etc.), I don't like three betting with speculative hands out of position (once in a while to mix up play). Also, you may get capped (I almost always cap a three bet from the SB...I have position and am fully aware players like to try to resteal).

Re: 89s 30/60
 

he raised behind a poster so this means he is v likely to have garbage.. if the guy was tough and is going to put me on a resteal then im just gonna muck it... no need to get involved OOP here.

Re: 89s 30/60
 

is case you didn't know, this hand is the definitely of weak tight post flop and loose passive preflop... rarely a good combo.

Preflop-- fold, unless the button really gets out of line. You are playing a drawing hand out of position. Even if you know the BB is calling every time, this isn't a good play. If you must insist on playing, i'd 3-bet and lead at any flop. You should at least try to represent a big hand.

Flop: easy 3-bet. Knock the BB out of the hand and make others pay to draw. There is very little to led you to believe that the button has anything.

Turn: If you played the flop better, then the turn is easier to play. The button is betting because noone has shown any interest in winning this pot. (though I know bk would probably prefer a check-raise here).

River (since you didn't fold)-- easy value bet.

Re: 89s 30/60
 

I vote for misplayed on every street.

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I agree 100%. Fold pf. 3-bet the flop and dear god don't fold on the turn.

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I vote for misplayed on every street.

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I agree 100%. Fold pf. 3-bet the flop and dear god don't fold on the turn.

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also agree

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I agree 100%. Fold pf. 3-bet the flop and dear god don't fold on the turn.

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I concur.

Playing this the way u should, if u face heavy action (like a flop cap w/ BB calling or turn raise) and u have to bail anywhere it would be UI on the river imo.

Re: 89s 30/60
 

Fold this preflop, there is still two players left to act behind you and I would really really hate to pay 3bets for this hand OOP. Not to mention the pot is not big enough to make this call in the first place.