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PhatCasino 10-01-2005 01:00 PM

High Limit Poker Rooms in Vegas
 
Just wondering if there are any seperate side rooms in vegas casinos and what sort of games/action they offer.

Do they have huge blind/ante structures?

Are they only open on select days when they're in demand?

I know for a fact about a sectioned off area in the belliago cardroom, curious to know if there are any others, maybe more so hidden and unknown?

radek2166 10-01-2005 02:04 PM

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Palms. has one.

randomstumbl 10-01-2005 02:44 PM

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Palms. has one.

[/ QUOTE ] I haven't been to the Palms since a month or two after they opened the poker room. So, my information could be outdated.

Their "high limit" room consisted of a couple capped 1/2 NLH tables and maybe a 10/20 limit HE game. The low limit side has 2/4 and 4/8 limit.

radek2166 10-01-2005 02:49 PM

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I am not sure of the limits. I do know they have a room upstairs.

Ryno 10-01-2005 06:22 PM

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Last time I was at the Golden Nugget, they had a 5/10PL game "in the back". That was close to a year ago.

bigfishead 10-01-2005 08:03 PM

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The room being referred to at the Palms is not what the poster is asking in my opinion. The Palms "high limit poker room" is across the passageway to the restrooms. This room was originally a keno room. Prior to the big boom in poker. The Palms needed more poker room so they closed this keno room and made it the "high side". Generally speaking it's just 2-5nl and 5-10 nl. Thats not high limit.


There is really only 1 real "side room" in LV. It's called "Bobbys Room" at the Bellagio. This room was built this year as part of Bellagios' poker room expansion. It is within the walls of the poker room, two tables, no less than $100,000 buy-in for this room. Usually 1 table going, 4-6 days a week, playing $2k-$4k limit mixed games.

the mix generally is: HE, Stud/8, Omaha/8, 2-7 triple draw, 7 card stud. Depending on the players they throw in NLHE, Pot limit Omaha occasionally, and even NL A-5 or 2-7 triple draw lowball.

The players: Jennifer Harmon, Doyle, Chip reese, Johnny Chan, Phil Ivey, Chau Ghiang, Eli, and David(french guy dont know there last names) and Larry Flint was in there last week.

Generally speaking this room goes unless the players are out at some sort of major event elsewhere.

The room is available anytime the players are there to play. It isnt just a sectioned off area. It's a room within the room, glass doors and walls.

If you looking for that secret hidden room you see in movies on tv, fergit about it. This is the day of surveilance and marketing.

lighterjobs 10-01-2005 08:07 PM

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Last time I was at the Golden Nugget, they had a 5/10PL game "in the back". That was close to a year ago.

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that's some pretty weak high limit.

KCFire105 10-01-2005 08:26 PM

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Are you looking to play or "just curious"? If it's the former, then buy in for the $200 NL game at Bellagio and meander by Bobby's room now and then to star gaze. It's pretty cool to see the big names and their stacks.

If you want a crack at playing with a star, go for the $600 min. no max. buy-in NL at Bellagio. I played in that game the night after David Williams was in it (I was on the $200 game that night).

You'll be in the same room w/ Sklansky, Fishman and the likes. They were there the same night I played. Very approachable.

Good luck.

MicroBob 10-01-2005 09:04 PM

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I headed over to the Palms to meet a couple people (we were playing in a couple of the tournaments they were running in that convention-room thing through July).

Walked into the 'high-limit' room and asked what was open.
"2/5 NL...$100 min buy-in...$500 max."

I almost spit my soda out my nose at the concept of being able to sit in a 'high-limit' room for only $100.


But it is 'higher' than the 'main' room where they were spreading mostly 2/4 and 4/8 limit.

jayheaps 10-01-2005 09:12 PM

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David doesnt play that high at all. He was in a 40/80mixed game with me a few weeks ago.

KCFire105 10-01-2005 09:20 PM

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David doesnt play that high at all. He was in a 40/80mixed game with me a few weeks ago.

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Appears to be a very nice fellow. Does he have a pretty good limit game as well?

PhatCasino 10-02-2005 12:32 AM

Re: High Limit Poker Rooms in Vegas
 
well im just curious firstly

secondly yeah that palms room is not really "High Limit" that sign is pretty much like an advertisement to play there and feel special

what i'd primiarly like to know is if theres anything with a high limit ante structure around town, especially on the strip. has anyone heard of such a thing

Photoc 10-02-2005 12:33 AM

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Well even though I have you on ignore, I read some of the replies and figured you were asking about other high limit rooms separate from the normal stakes rooms.

I have dealt in the Aladdin's high limit room upstairs in the back of the London Club. Very swanky. The pros (big guns) will come over and play 4k/8k mixed games with the 1k/2k blinds for NL and PL.

They have also done some television filming up there as well.

PhatCasino 10-02-2005 01:11 AM

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The pros (big guns) will come over and play 4k/8k mixed games with the 1k/2k blinds for NL and PL.


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i appreciate you pulling me off ignore photoc... LOL
yeah the 1k/2k blinds are what im getting at here... are these "hidden rooms" common on the strip? if your primarily a poker player aka notawhalefish - how do you get yourself into one of these? does luxor, mandalay bay or even the ventiaian have one of these rooms?

and lastly, have you ever heard of omaha or 5 or 7-card stud played at these high levels?

Photoc 10-02-2005 02:46 AM

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I do still have you on ingore, but when I hit reply your post comes up.

As for the private rooms. No one really has them. Just Bellagio and Aladdin are the only "private ones" that I know of. You can just walk in and check them out if no game is going. But if there is a game going, 6 figures are going to be needed to get into the game. Onlookers are not allowed. Venetian doesn't even have a poker room "yet".

The normal ring game for the big games are Holdem, No Limit Holdem, PL Omaha high, Omaha hi/lo, 7 stud, stud 8 or better, NL 2-7 lowball. Occasionally some other games may be added. I have never seen razz played in it as it's reverse thinking from other games and just downright frustrating when you're playing those kind of stakes.

casinogosain 10-02-2005 03:57 AM

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Venetian doesn't even have a poker room "yet".


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According to a number of dealers and my host there, a room will be opening this winter.

-Ash

Photoc 10-02-2005 04:04 AM

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Oh I know they will. Their site and the newspaper are hiring for Director, Floormen, and shift managers only right now. The only thing I dont like about the Venetian is they take over a month for a background check and credit check. Both can be done in a few hours. But they have been known to have one of the worst run HR departments in the city.

bigfishead 10-02-2005 05:22 AM

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The pros (big guns) will come over and play 4k/8k mixed games with the 1k/2k blinds for NL and PL.


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i appreciate you pulling me off ignore photoc... LOL
yeah the 1k/2k blinds are what im getting at here... are these "hidden rooms" common on the strip? if your primarily a poker player aka notawhalefish - how do you get yourself into one of these? does luxor, mandalay bay or even the ventiaian have one of these rooms?

and lastly, have you ever heard of omaha or 5 or 7-card stud played at these high levels?

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What is it about my post to your question you didnt get? I answered it entirely including your questions here. I'm unaware they have been going over to Alladdin to play recently, as we see this group most nites. Tonite they were in there as per usual. Playing 2000-4000 limit. But they'll go as high as you want. Just ask. Your welcome to join in I'm sure.

And there is nothing "hidden" about this room. But it is private as far as people being aloud to just stroll on in.

as for luxor, manadlay bay, or venetian, fugetaboutit. If they get a game higher than 4-8 it's a miracle. And these players would tear apart those dealers. (ok so I'm exagerating a little, but not much)

MicroBob 10-02-2005 06:43 AM

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as mentioned....venetian does not currently even have poker....luxor and mandalay typically don't get many games much higher than 4/8 going.


I think the original poster seriously overestimates the amount of high-roller poker money around Las Vegas.
Watch enough of those 'Vegas Whales and High-Rollers' shows on the Travel Channel and you might get that impression.


The fact is, most of the poker-rooms in Las Vegas have 2/4 and 4/8 limit.
Bellagio has the biggest games (in that 15/30 and 30/60 games are going all the time...and they will have the higher limit games too).
Mirage and Wynn also have these medium-limit games as well.
MGM seemed to be iffy about even getting a 10/20 game going regularly.


I was really surprised myself actually.
I really thought there would be 10/20 and higher at like 7 different places when I went to Vegas but this just isn't the case.
I was truly amazed at all the 2/4 limit that's out there (seriously, what's the freaking point?)


Again, I was new to Vegas so didn't really know what to expect...just thought there would be greater availability of games higher than 4/8. My expectations were WAY off.

10-02-2005 07:37 AM

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I was truly amazed at all the 2/4 limit that's out there (seriously, what's the freaking point?)


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My sentiments, as well.

Photoc 10-02-2005 01:46 PM

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unaware they have been going over to Alladdin to play recently, as we see this group most nites.

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The most recent they have been over there was during the WSOP. They've been there a few different occasions since opening the upstairs section.

jayheaps 10-02-2005 02:15 PM

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David doesnt play that high at all. He was in a 40/80mixed game with me a few weeks ago.

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Appears to be a very nice fellow. Does he have a pretty good limit game as well?

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By David's own admission, he is just learning stud games and Omaha 8. However, his aggression and instinct definitely make up for lack of fundamentals. My guess is he will be a monster within a year.

surfinillini 10-02-2005 05:41 PM

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question to the above poster re bellagio regulars:

so...while off the tourney circuit these pros bascially exchange each other's money on a weekly basis with the exception of a few whales (i.e. Larry Flynt)?...sounds kind of odd.

steamboatin 10-02-2005 06:02 PM

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I believe a more accurate statement would be, they lie in wait for the tourist that wants to take a shot at the big time.

Spook 10-02-2005 06:05 PM

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Larry Flint is actually quite good, and better than most of these players.
The thing is that not everyone who plays at a certain bet level is the same skill level. For example, Gus Hansen in the 2k/4k. He is such a 'great' player, but he gambles way to much and has an inflated ego of his cash game skill. Now he is in debt for millions of dollars.
You get the same thing at 30/60 to 80/160 and higher. People who can crush lower games but get out of their skill level and loss it all, then have to step down or into debt.

steamboatin 10-02-2005 06:49 PM

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It is my understanding that on a regular basis, a businessman or someone with some extra money to burn will sit in just so they can say they played against the best. I wasn't really thinking about Gus Hansen or any regular poker player. I was thinking more along the lines of someone that has the cash and wants to play against them for the "Hell of it".

LLKOOLK1 10-02-2005 07:14 PM

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Larry Flint is actually quite good, and better than most of these players.
The thing is that not everyone who plays at a certain bet level is the same skill level. For example, Gus Hansen in the 2k/4k. He is such a 'great' player, but he gambles way to much and has an inflated ego of his cash game skill. Now he is in debt for millions of dollars.
You get the same thing at 30/60 to 80/160 and higher. People who can crush lower games but get out of their skill level and loss it all, then have to step down or into debt.

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Larry Flint is without a doubt a loser in this game.
-LL

KCFire105 10-02-2005 07:20 PM

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Again, I was new to Vegas so didn't really know what to expect...just thought there would be greater availability of games higher than 4/8. My expectations were WAY off.

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Unless my inturpretation is off, it sounds like a few people on here are disappointed in the number of high limit games offered in Vegas, yet they don't even play these games. I don't belive anyone has had a problem finding one of these games anytime they want, and they're all stated above.

Quitcherbitchin' and head to the cage. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Good luck and I'll see you at the tables.

bigfishead 10-02-2005 08:02 PM

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question to the above poster re bellagio regulars:

so...while off the tourney circuit these pros bascially exchange each other's money on a weekly basis with the exception of a few whales (i.e. Larry Flynt)?...sounds kind of odd.

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ANY whales(i.e. Larry Flynt) are an exception and a rarity. Otherwise to answer your question: Yes.

steamboatin 10-02-2005 08:51 PM

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It is the upper side of low limits and the lower side of the high limits that don't have much game selection. Many of the casinos that I played last month, couldn't kep a 4-8 game going let alone 10-20.

Here in the Midwest, you can almost always play $10-20 any time you want.

bobbyi 10-02-2005 09:02 PM

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By David's own admission, he is just learning stud games and Omaha 8.

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I don't really understand this statement given that he coauthored Seven Card Stud for Advanced Players fifteen years ago.

10-02-2005 09:14 PM

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Wrong David.

10-03-2005 11:56 AM

Re: High Limit Poker Rooms in Vegas
 
Point of $2-4:

1) Anyone can play, little risk. Very inviting for the beginner.

2) Same rake as $6-12, 10-20, 20-40, etc.

These places are looking to get the player who would be looking for $5 blackjack & quarter slots to give the game a try.

I certainly don't have a problem with them--brings more people to the game. Real easy in Vegas to go to another casino if they're not running the games large enough for you. I don't play at Imperial, Flamingo, Luxor when I'm out there because I agree that $2-4 is a waste of time. But I'm glad it's out there to bring in players.

otter 10-03-2005 02:51 PM

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Bellagio has a seperate room and MGM has a room upstairs which is also separate. Those are the only ones that I know of

10-03-2005 03:32 PM

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Again, I was new to Vegas so didn't really know what to expect...just thought there would be greater availability of games higher than 4/8. My expectations were WAY off.

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Unless my inturpretation is off, it sounds like a few people on here are disappointed in the number of high limit games offered in Vegas, yet they don't even play these games. I don't belive anyone has had a problem finding one of these games anytime they want, and they're all stated above.

Quitcherbitchin' and head to the cage. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Good luck and I'll see you at the tables.

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I don't play very high but I've had some trouble finding games in Vegas late at night. There have been a couple nights the last month where I'm not sure there was been a single 8-16 game going.


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