Do you ever take your foot off the pedal?
 

villain isn't too horrible, somewhat passive before the flop, but i saw him over play 2 flushes with paired boards where he lost big pots.

Do you ever let up on this hand?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.66 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls.

River: (13.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 21.66 BB

Re: Do you ever take your foot off the pedal?
 

Since he likes to overplay, I wouldn't give it a second thought. A8s, KK-AA, 77, all possible.

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I´m not found of slowplaying. Not even HU and with a hand this strong.
I would raise this flop and if raised I smoothcall and pop the turn also. Against some I cap the flop also. The reason is that i would raise this flop with many hands and you aren´t directly worried that villain will fold his hand are you? In fact he will probably raise you here...

Other than the flop I would have played it the same... If he had QQ then so be it...

Re: Do you ever take your foot off the pedal?
 

i would only call the river check raise after the turn action. but given your description, i may be losing money.

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I wouldn't stop.

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Raise the flop and keep throwing raises in there until party poker doesn't allow it anymore.

Edit: If it's capped all the way after raising the flop, then just call the river check-raise. Anything more would be overplaying.

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by overplaying do you mean capping turn and river with a 6 high flush? or do u mean capping turn with 2 bets on the river with a Q high flush? If its the first, I cap this on both streets. If its the latter, the only hand he has that makes sense is QQ. Once u get c/r on river PLZ shutdown. Not even AA goes this far, and hes passive pf so Im guessing AA KK AK QQ. obviously not AK here huh? KK and AA never go this far, so QQ it is.

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I raise the flop and call the river checkraise.

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Just call the river checkraise? Because he made a straight flush?

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lol.

we don't even have the 2nd nuts. we don't even have the third nuts. do you like money? because i do.

Re: Do you ever take your foot off the pedal?
 

Ok, well yeah definitly raise the flop. And not to beat it to death, but call the river c/r. I'm serious, who here thinks a flush is even in the realm of possibility?


&lt;------------NOT THIS GUY

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lol.

we don't even have the 2nd nuts. we don't even have the third nuts. do you like money? because i do.

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We're not talking about nuts that are easy to have. These nuts are different.

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lol.

we don't even have the 2nd nuts. we don't even have the third nuts. do you like money? because i do.

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sorry.

i would say when he check-raises the river he has QQ 50% of the time at LEAST. this means you can ONLY CALL HIS CHECK-RAISE

Re: Do you ever take your foot off the pedal?
 

Slow down tiger.

Can he read hands at all?

If he's passive before the flop, he's not holding AcQc, right?

If he maybe caps with AKs does he play AcKc like this?

If not- what does he cap with that he plays like that on the turn?

If your description is on point, QQ is really damn likely once he c/rs the river and I think you maybe could make a case for calling down after he 3-bets the turn (but that hinges on if you think he'd play AA or KK like this on the turn).

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OK. I just played the whole movie back in my head considering the read. When I get to part about the river checkraise, my 3rd bet feels like a spew. So, I'm inclined to agree that just calling on the river is much better. If OP's read is accurate, it's not even close.

Re: Do you ever take your foot off the pedal?
 

personally I dont think a call on the river is as sure a thing as some seem to suggest against a 3/6 limit player. Especially one that has been seen overplaying his hands.

But, I do agree flat calling the river is marginally better.

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I raise the flop and call the river checkraise.

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I concur.

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NO, i think hes overplaying something way more often than he has the QQ, and if he does have the qq, thats just a beat your going to take...

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YUP, I will bet money that the guy doesnt have QQ

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Explain your reasoning?

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P.S. The two people above me should be banned. (not you dids)

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YUP, I will bet money that the guy doesnt have QQ

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whats your wager. Im in.

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YUP, I will bet money that the guy doesnt have QQ

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whats your wager. Im in.

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NO, i think hes overplaying something way more often than he has the QQ, and if he does have the qq, thats just a beat your going to take...

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NO, i think hes overplaying something way more often than he has the QQ, and if he does have the qq, thats just a beat your going to take...

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Gold.

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I raise the flop and call the river checkraise.

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Ill bet 1 person $20. Nothing crazy just in case you guys know the answer.

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YUP, I will bet money that the guy doesnt have QQ

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whats your wager. Im in.

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Ill bet 1 person $20. Nothing crazy just in case you guys know the answer.

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You're on. If Im wrong I will transfer u money on Stars (easiest for me). Being serious here.

You really dont think he has QQ or 88 here? The only way I see AQ of clubs, AA or KK here is if he is really bad. But if u accept let me know.

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Wager accepted, I think I win though.

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NO, i think hes overplaying something way more often than he has the QQ, and if he does have the qq, thats just a beat your going to take...

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My contribution to that thread did not receive the accolades it deserved.

Re: Do you ever take your foot off the pedal?
 

Does he cap 88 HU. If he does, this is hilarious.

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It should be very clear that everbody (like me) saying QQ is basing this on the OP's read. If his read blows and he caps AcQc or 88 preflop, it's his fault, not ours.

Re: Do you ever take your foot off the pedal?
 

haha, Im simply going off the reads of partypoker 3-6 players. You must cap this river!

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Wager accepted, I think I win though.

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Thoughts on why? Im curious as to what u think.

Re: Do you ever take your foot off the pedal?
 

You are not very good at reading party 3/6 players then.

As I have stated earlier, I see into their souls, so I may have an edge here.

Seriously, even if people play bad, you can't just ignore basic hand reading.

There's only one this this advice feels like...







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Re: Do you ever take your foot off the pedal?
 

THere are only 3 hands that beat him. And perhaps 88? 4 hands?