taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

I play in 0,5/1 and win all the time, then I take shot in 1/2 and always lose 50-100BB. Then back to 0,5/1 and win. Then another shot in 1/2 and the same continues, I lose. And fast.

This is the latest 1/2 session. -25BB in minutes. All the hands I played are here (not include some check-fold play from blinds). Do you find anything REALLY bad?

No special reads. Everyone seems loose and passive, not overly aggressive

BTW, what to do with A2-A9o in MP or CO after caller(s)? I always fold.

HAND1:
Absolute Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds, Button calls.

HAND2:
Absolute Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.
too loose?

Flop: (7.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

HAND3:
Absolute Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (7 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7 BB

HAND4:
Absolute Poker 1/2 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

HAND5:
Absolute Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

HAND6:
Absolute Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, Hero folds.
too weak?

Final Pot: 4.25 BB

HAND7:
Absolute Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

HAND8:
Absolute Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, SB calls.

HAND9:
Absolute Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">hero fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.
should I call?

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

call in hand 8, you have mucho outs

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

it all actually looks pretty standard, i dont bet the flop (or turn, UI) on hand 5.

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

I think the common theme you're gonna see here is your aggression level. I've never played the .5/1 so I'm not sure how it plays, but a lot of this is not being able to adjust to what this other game is bringing, and that is aggression.

Hand 1: fine

Hand 2: You need to raise this flop. Tie the CO in to the hand and take control. You have the nut flush draw, an inside nut straight draw, and maybe just maybe your ace is good.

Hand 3: Check the turn. You're not going to drive BB out, and king high isn't going to win this. Get a free look at the river.

Hand 4: perfect

Hand 5: I would probably raise this preflop, but just complete if it's unsuited. On the flop, nice checkraise but why did you chicken out on the river?

Hand 6: I would probably peel the turn here as people will definitely raise with only a flush draw. Without reads I dunno.

Hand 7: good

Hand 8: good

Hand 9: call

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

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call in hand 8, you have mucho outs

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You mean his 5 outs? Explain please

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

First, I think your handle/avatar combo is hilarious.

Second, how big is your roll at .5/1 and how much do you take to 1/2? When you take a shot, how many tables do you play?

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

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BTW, what to do with A2-A9o in MP or CO after caller(s)? I always fold.

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Me too.

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

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call in hand 8, you have mucho outs

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You mean his 5 outs? Explain please

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call in hand 8, you have mucho outs

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You mean his 5 outs? Explain please

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4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot

perhaps as many as 6 outs, but that's being generous.

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

Hand 1: The pot is small, your draw is very weak. Good fold.

Hand 2: Cold Calling should only be done in a few circumstances. If you are playing A9s here, you should 3bet. I like raising the flop - you have a gutshot, the nutflush draw, and might even win by spiking an ace. You might also get to take a free card on the turn by doing this.

Hand 3: Looks good. Generally the line goes bet the flop, turn, and then give up the river if you missed. With observant opponents though, an intersting thing comes out of this. When you check the river and are acting first, they generally clue in that you missed. So when you infact did hit, you get opportunities to sexy the river. An added bonus to this is that when you have missed, you can sometimes "fire the last barrel" and take the pot.

Hand 4: Looks good. It seems like the bb was getting frisky with a 7.

Hand 5: I dont think you want to raise with that many other callers. If your flush draw doesnt come, you will likely be drawing to 3 outs. I think you can probably bet/call this river, since you are playing with donks, they might just have middle pair thinking that you are bluffing.

Hand 6: Call the flop I think. If you fold a decent % of the time when they check raise you with flush draws, they make huge profits.

Hand 7: If he is capable of semi bluffing, I would definitely 3bet the flop against him to punish him for it. But if he is random and bad, your line is fine.

Hand 8: You might win by hitting 3-of-a-kind, 2 pair (less likely), or a gutshot. You should call since there arent that many people in the pot. If this were from a full game, however, it would be a clear fold.

Hand9: I like calling here, but this one is fairly read dependant.


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BTW, what to do with A2-A9o in MP or CO after caller(s)? I always fold.

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Me too.

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Folding is correct. Most of the value of these hands in shorthanded comes from making steals. With limpers, a steal is very unlikely, so you will be nearly always drawing to 3 outs.

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

Hand 1: Fine.
Hand 2: Fold preflop. Easy raise on the flop. Straight and flush draw, value, free card, will fold small pairs.
Hand 3: OK. Checking the flop is reasonable too.
Hand 4: OK. Waiting until the turn to raise is reasonable too. If you are pretty sure he's going to fire again on the turn even if an overcard comes, then waiting until the turn is quite a bit better.
Hand 5: Easy bet on the river. There's no reason to think you are beat at this point. Value bet value bet value bet, these guys love to call.
Hand 6: OK. Calling down an aggro player is reasonable.
Hand 7: OK. Raising somewhere else is reasonable too. I'd raise the river against most players mainly because your kicker plays, chance of being 3 bet is very slim.
Hand 8: Nice.
Hand 9: Nice.

ZZZ

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Hand5:

I thought they had a better ace, was on a SD (and they got it) or on FD (which of course missed). Maybe bet-and fold to a raise would be better.

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call in hand 8, you have mucho outs

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Umm... I dont get it. I dont see many outs and the pot isnt that big.

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call in hand 8, you have mucho outs

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You mean his 5 outs? Explain please

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4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot 4BB pot

perhaps as many as 6 outs, but that's being generous.

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how is 6 outs generous? it's as many as 9 and as low as 3 or 4, but I would say it's likely a minimum of 6 outs (9s and Qs). If you make your hand more bets are going in on the river. I personally can't fold such a live hand.

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First, I think your handle/avatar combo is hilarious.

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Yep, that was the point! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] My girlfriend calls me Winnie the Pooh (and I call her Piglet) so....

When I take shots, I have about 250-300BB to 1/2 but I usually take (and lose) just about 50-75BB ( I buy-in for 25) and then get upset and move down, so maybe I am not giving it enough time. It just seems that I "always" win in 0,5/1. I want to do that also in 1/2 [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Currently I have ~600BB to 0,5/1

I always play only 1 table when taking shot. In 0,5/1 I play 2 tables max.

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

One more thing, he folded to the donkbet, pre the raise... so at the point that it was donkbet I don't see how one wouldn't assume all 9 outs are live.

last post from me on this subject

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

Even with 9 outs that's a fold, and there's no way a mid two-pair gets full value on a one-card straight board like that. Not only that, but we're often going to be drawing to a chop with our gutshot outs. This is an easy turn fold. And if you argue about implied odds for the river, you're almost never going to get 2BB in.

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

Looks like you play plenty well enough to beat the 1/2. However, variance is a bitch and it can be tough not to be results oriented. I have the same problem as you; I'm currently at +8.6 bb/100 at .50/1 and -0.4 bb/100 at 1/2 (over insufficient sample sizes, only around 10k hands at each). You just need to be happy that you're in good games and eventually the cards will fall in your favor. Sometimes the hot cards hit you at the lower limit, other times it'll be the other way around, so don't be afraid to keep playing the 1/2.

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When I take shots, I have about 250-300BB to 1/2 but I usually take (and lose) just about 50-75BB ( I buy-in for 25) and then get upset and move down, so maybe I am not giving it enough time.

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I think this may be your problem. Try buying in for 50BBs and then using tiltblocker or something else to cover up your stack. I've never played .5/1, but I can't imagine 1/2 is significantly more difficult. You just need to give yourself enough time to ride out some variance if you hit a bad patch and don't let the increased stakes affect you.

EDIT: Oh, I'd also take 100BBs total for the shot. Two buy-ins. If you drop it all, you still have plenty for .5/1, but DON'T LEAVE 1/2 unless you're so uncomfortable with the stakes you can't play well or you think you're being outplayed. Be willing to just lose that money, because moving up ASAP should be priority one.

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

hand 1 is standard

hand 2 you do generally not want to coldcall, EVER. (note i said generally, coldcalling with low pairs when others have coldcalled before you etc is fine). so fold this preflop.

hand 3 is pretty standard
hand 4 is standard
hand 5 bet the river

hand 6 is probably fine, unless you know him to be overly
aggressive. though its most likely a good fold

hand 7 you have to 3-bet this flop or raise the turn. because of the weak kicker I usually 3-bet the flop.

hand 8 is fine.
hand 9 is also fine, you shouldn't call here no. you are way too often dominated.

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

Ok I'm gonna try this posting blind thing...

Hand 1: Standard

Hand 2: I'd fold preflop, and given your call, I'm tempted to raise this flop with all of your flush and straight outs. I don't mind a call too much though. Considering the flop could easily have hit the PFR, it woulda somewhat suck if he 3bet it to knock out the CO.

Hand 3: Standard

Hand 4: Standard

Hand 5: Well played on the flop. I would probably value bet the river.

Hand 6: Standard w/o a read. The Axx flop should typically scare your opponent, and if he isn't scared he likely has you beat. If he had only a flush draw, good for him... he played it rather badly by scaring the rest of the field out.

Hand 7: Looks good. I'd give slight consideration to 3betting the flop but considering you were the preflop raiser, I think your line is the best.

Hand 8: Well played.

Nothing looks horrible IMO. You're probably just getting the low end of your variance when you've taken 1-2 6max shots, I wouldn't sweat it too much. Oh and fold A2-A9.

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I have nothing to contribute other than, how does this qualify as low content? I mean, you have 8 freakin hands here! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

I genuinely wish you the best of luck in poker and in life . . . but

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My girlfriend calls me Winnie the Pooh (and I call her Piglet) so....

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I just vomitted in my mouth a little bit. Just sayin'.

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Yep, I guess we a nerds [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

But those nicknames are quite suited for our characters...

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

hand 1 standard
Hand 2 fine, sometimes i 3 bet sometimes i fold. depends on UTG stats
Hand 3 i would check behind the turn
Hand 4 standard
Hand 5 I'd bet the river.
Hand 6 thast tough... totally depends on oppenent and game conditions. The fact that we have the jack of hearts makes it closer
Hand7 your line is fine, you could raise the turn.
Hand 8 easy fold.
hand 9 i fold... but depends on oppenents and game conditions

Re: taking shots, always failing (low limit and low content)
 

just a bit of advice.
Instead of taking shots. Try building your roll upto 1000$ at .5/1
Than take all 1000 and move to 1/2. This is 500BB and you won't have to be scared of variance. Moving down after losing 50-75 BB is just stupid IMO.
Yes this may take a little bit longer than taking shots, but emotionally its a lot easier.