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Well, we're down to the last eight. I was sad to see The Deerhunter go in the last round, but it lost to a very worthy film. As much as people bitch about using IMDB's rankings to determine seedings it's amazing how well it seems to work out towards the later rounds. Six out of eight contestants left alive are one and two seeds. On to the matchups...

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There is no way platoon should still be in there.

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Group three, while containing some great movies lacked movies with mass public appeal. Now it will most likely make it to the Final Four round. I don't know about all the Platoon hating though, I think it's a pretty solid film, and my personal favorite performance by Charlie Sheen.

Swede

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The Great Escape vs Stalag 17 was the hardest choice in the last round. Patton should still be here too.

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my personal favorite performance by Charlie Sheen.

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that's like saying favorite performance by pee wee herman.

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I knew that comment would be coming [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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I thought all 4 choices were pretty tough this round. 3 sets of very good movies matched up vs. each other and 1 set that doesn't really deserve to be here imo.

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Yikes, already down to page 3. Vote away, children.

Swede

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There's an early script of Saving Private Ryan pasted all over the internet...I was skimming over it this morning. Talk about changing the movie around!

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There's an early script of Saving Private Ryan pasted all over the internet...I was skimming over it this morning. Talk about changing the movie around!

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Brief summary, please.

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There's an early script of Saving Private Ryan pasted all over the internet...I was skimming over it this morning. Talk about changing the movie around!

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Brief summary, please.

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Miller, Ryan, and Reiben walking off into the sunset together talking about their recently fallen comrades. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] I don't even know if it's genuine, but that's probably how the movie would have ended if it had been made in 1960 or something.

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Miller doesn’t die in the end

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All the remaining movies are worthy, but if I was to pick the best of the best war films it would be...

Band Of Brothers

and it's not even close.

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Miller doesn’t die in the end

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This probably would've been a good thing, instead of the classic Spielberg schmaltz "Tell me I am a good person" ending.

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wtf whoever voted for saving private ryan is a total bitch

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Group three, while containing some great movies lacked movies with mass public appeal. Now it will most likely make it to the Final Four round. I don't know about all the Platoon hating though, I think it's a pretty solid film, and my personal favorite performance by Charlie Sheen.

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Agreed. This is not a movie that deserves hate. I could only see it getting hate from ideologues with a political axe to grind.

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All the remaining movies are worthy, but if I was to pick the best of the best war films it would be...

Band Of Brothers

and it's not even close.

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BoB is great, but its a mini-series. Not a film. Which is why it was never included in this poll.

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This probably would've been a good thing, instead of the classic Spielberg schmaltz "Tell me I am a good person" ending.

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One of the most horrible endings of all time. With the kind of leaden, resounding obviousness and milking of sentimentality that's Spielberg's personal curse. The most unrelentingly gawdawful Spielberg since The Color Purple.

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All the remaining movies are worthy, but if I was to pick the best of the best war films it would be...

Band Of Brothers

and it's not even close.

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I agree that all of the remaining are good movies, but my favorite did not even make the top 64 [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Bat 21 - Gene Hackman's best movie

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All the remaining movies are worthy, but if I was to pick the best of the best war films it would be...

Band Of Brothers

and it's not even close.

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BoB is great, but its a mini-series. Not a film. Which is why it was never included in this poll.

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Mere technicalities. Band Of Brothers was so great it deserves an automatic bye into the super-finals.

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yeah, "Forrest Goes to Europe," sucked compared to Apocalypse Now.

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all depends on the generation you belong to. if you're 50+ of course you're going to enjoy apocalype now (amazing movie btw) more than saving private ryan. i voted saving private ryan because i enjoyed it a little more. a tough vote IMO

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I can't wait for the FMJ vs. Platoon match-up. If we get a few people to come to their senses and vote AN over SPR, we could have an all Vietnam war final.

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SPR is a good film no doubt, but this poll is officially a joke if Apocalypse Now doesn't even make the final four.

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All the remaining movies are worthy, but if I was to pick the best of the best war films it would be...

Band Of Brothers

and it's not even close.

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It kind of gets screwed because it is a mini-series. However, if you classify it as a film, it is the best war movie of all time. No contest; end of discussion.

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Stalag 17 being eliminated is such an injustice.

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Stalag 17 being eliminated is such an injustice.

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I personally do not consider this a "War Movie", as there are no battle scenes.

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wtf why are people woting for SPR over Apocalypse Now [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Because it's a better [censored] movie.

Is this so hard to understand.

The title is Greatest War movie.

Apocalypse Now wasn't about war.

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With the kind of leaden, resounding obviousness and milking of sentimentality that's Spielberg's personal curse.

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It pains me that he insists on ruining otherwise good films with this crap.

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All the remaining movies are worthy, but if I was to pick the best of the best war films it would be...

Band Of Brothers

and it's not even close.

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It kind of gets screwed because it is a mini-series. However, if you classify it as a film, it is the best war movie of all time. No contest; end of discussion.

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Don't get me wrong, it's an amazing story, the best programming ever made for television. But it is not a movie, and that's part of what makes it so great. With Band of Brothers they had ten hours to develop the characters and they had many different writers and directors create separate chapters that all work together to tell one story.

Swede

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One of the most horrible endings of all time. With the kind of leaden, resounding obviousness and milking of sentimentality that's Spielberg's personal curse. The most unrelentingly gawdawful Spielberg since The Color Purple.

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It's funny to hear you say this, Blarg. I share much of the same taste as you when it comes to movies, but apparently our views differ greatly when it comes to Spielberg. Perhaps I'm a little bit simpler in my ability to enjoy the stories Spielberg creates, but I really like how he puts movies together. To each their own I guess =)

Swede

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SPR is a good film no doubt, but this poll is officially a joke if Apocalypse Now doesn't even make the final four.

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SPR is a good film no doubt, but this poll is officially a joke if Apocalypse Now doesn't even make the final four.

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Apocalypse now is a great film, no doubt, but greatest "war" film? There's a difference... If the poll was "Greatest Film about the Realization of Inner Evil," Then Apocalypse now would kick SPR's arse.

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One of the most horrible endings of all time. With the kind of leaden, resounding obviousness and milking of sentimentality that's Spielberg's personal curse. The most unrelentingly gawdawful Spielberg since The Color Purple.

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It's funny to hear you say this, Blarg. I share much of the same taste as you when it comes to movies, but apparently our views differ greatly when it comes to Spielberg. Perhaps I'm a little bit simpler in my ability to enjoy the stories Spielberg creates, but I really like how he puts movies together. To each their own I guess =)

Swede

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He can't be beat on things that require little human emotion or need for a measured hand, like Jaws or Raiders of the Lost Ark.

He doesn't trust his material when it comes to emotions, and overcranks the hell out of everything. Absolutely no faith in the audience or his material or actors. Definitely the Hallmark card on steroids version of human emotion. He needs stories about guys with whips and about really big sharks.

I like how he puts movies together too, sometimes. But, it has to be a particular kind of movie. He's one of the most brilliant yet fatally flawed filmmakers ever.

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With the kind of leaden, resounding obviousness and milking of sentimentality that's Spielberg's personal curse.

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It pains me that he insists on ruining otherwise good films with this crap.

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Me too. Ryan would have been so much better without that horrible last scene. I couldn't believe how badly he blew it by cornballing it up to high heaven and milking the living daylights out of it.

It's like he's compulsive or something, or bottomlessly insecure. No respect for the material or the audience. He always has to make sure you "get it." The guy just can't help himself.

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I am protesting the vote because MISSING IN ACTION with Chuck Norris wasnt even given a chance.

Haters

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With the kind of leaden, resounding obviousness and milking of sentimentality that's Spielberg's personal curse.

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It pains me that he insists on ruining otherwise good films with this crap.

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Me too. Ryan would have been so much better without that horrible last scene. I couldn't believe how badly he blew it by cornballing it up to high heaven and milking the living daylights out of it.

It's like he's compulsive or something, or bottomlessly insecure. No respect for the material or the audience. He always has to make sure you "get it." The guy just can't help himself.

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I agree in that Spielberg often screws up otherwise excellent films with that mushy over-the-top crap. And as sucky as that final scene in SPR is, it is Spielbergs way of bringing the focus back to the men who fought in that war, who are now old and scarred, and nearly forgotten by whipper-snappers like ourselves who so crave a perfectly sculpted film about the horrors of war.

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probably the most realistic Vietnam war film out there...(let's face it, Full Metal Jacket is too cool/surreal to be realistic - Kubrick wasn't a big fan of realism)

If for no other reason then it was written by a vet, I think it's worth watching - glad to see it in the top 9

I'm REALLY waiting to see if Saving Private Ryan can stay ahead of Apoc. Now - Personally, I have nothing against Coppela, but again, that was more of a drama - Hell, it's the retelling of that Joseph Conrad story Heart of Darkness in Vietnam, that's all...

The best war movies should be realistic, IMHO....

RB

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