Wealthy ATM, or so I thought
 

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, and for the lack of interesting information.

I've been playing holdem on a casino boat about once a week for the last two months. The first few times I played there was a middle-aged Asian women at the table, whom everyone seemed to know. She was attractive, well dressed and was wearing lots of expensive looking jewelry. She was known as kind of a high roller and everyone was excited when she sat in on the game. It was my first time playing N/L and I was pretty happy that I busted her out and finished up the night up around $600.

This morning, my son and I went to a local diner for breakfast and the waitress looked familiar. I soon realized that this waitress was the "high-roller' on the casino boat.

I don't know what to make of this, but it doesn't sit too well with me for some reason.

Like I said, sorry for the lack of content, but I just wanted to air this out.

Bill

PS. I left her a nice tip!

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OUCH!!! Always nice to imagine your victims can afford to lose, but sadly that isn't the case much of the time. Strange thing this profession. In a way, we are all drug dealers: making our big bucks on the depravity of others.

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I hope you said hello to her!

A high roller at a 1/2 NL game? Sounds like she can afford that limit to me.

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she has just as much right to sit at the poker table as any other player. She obviously works and if she wants to play poker, she has just as much right to be there as anyone. If you feel bad about taking her money, you are a snob.

Men the Master was called Money Machine Men when He was a dishwasher and just learning the game. She may always be a fish, but it is possible, that you should get all of her money that you can, while you are still able to get it.

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"A high roller at a 1/2 NL game? Sounds like she can afford that limit to me."

- the only poker table going on the boat. 300max buyin and the typical preflop raise is $30 and higher, with many pots over a grand. This has no similarity to any other 1/2 NL game that I've seen. Anyway, she also plays at the $100 min Black Jack table and buys into the Poker game with black chips. She's also a very generous tipper.

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"A high roller at a 1/2 NL game? Sounds like she can afford that limit to me."

- the only poker table going on the boat. 300max buyin and the typical preflop raise is $30 and higher, with many pots over a grand. This has no similarity to any other 1/2 NL game that I've seen. Anyway, she also plays at the $100 min Black Jack table and buys into the Poker game with black chips. She's also a very generous tipper.

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Maybe she's a hooker too. Did you see her again that night?

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"If you feel bad about taking her money, you are a snob."

I'm not a snob and I'm not sure that I exactly feel bad. I was very surprised. You see someone in a certain setting and your mind fills in the blanks. I guess what I'm saying is that I had a completely wrong "read" on her, as did everyone else on the boat.

I'm not a professional poker player and don't even spend any of the money I win...just add it to my BR. I play for the competition aspect of poker, and the way you measure your success is in terms of money won or lost.

Maybe I'm a hypocrate in that I like to win, but don't want to think about where the money comes from.

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I've known, personally, Asian and Hispanic immigrants who started businesses here. They work their butts off. They make sacrifices like I've never seen Native Born USA citizens willing to do. They take care of their families. And everyone of them has done well.

It's very possible this lady owns the restaurant and can more than afford her time in a casino. I'm sure you meant no "ethnic aspersion." I didn't read it that way. But, I do see the possibility of an "assumption" on your part. It's easy to stereotype. Hell, if stereotypes didn't behave the way they do we'd have no basis for the stereotype.

This isn't a flame or sarcasm. I just felt like putting my .02 in the pot.

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My post had nothing to do with stereotypes and I don't know why I even mentioned her ethnicity. She doesn't own that particular restaurant, as I know the owners. What I was trying to convey was that she was like a celebrity on the boat, throwing money around like a millionaire, and looking the part as well. Seeing her in a waitress uniform, surprised me. (even though I have to admit, she still looked pretty good)

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Outside chance that this is the situation:

There are/were quite a few middle aged female players in the mid limit games at Commerce. Some of these also work as dealers. Thing is, all are horrible players. Their husbands are wealthy, but got tired of financing them losing $10K-50K per year. So they told them they could only continue to play if they financed their gambling themselves.

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Outside chance that this is the situation:

There are/were quite a few middle aged female players in the mid limit games at Commerce. Some of these also work as dealers. Thing is, all are horrible players. Their husbands are wealthy, but got tired of financing them losing $10K-50K per year. So they told them they could only continue to play if they financed their gambling themselves.

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Commerce. Silly 4/8 game with Klepton, JasonT and a few others we all know. Chinese girl with super-thick accent in BB with Klepton on the button - I'm standing over the table and can see her cards. Klepton raises on the button, she has QQ and is about to fold (she is short stacked) I start throwing money at her, telling her whatever she does... DON'T FOLD!! Please raise! she calls down to the river and loses to Klepton's KK. She looks disheartened as she loses all her chips on the table, I give her $100 as a consolation prize. She leaves the bill there and walks away rather sad from the table.

2 hours later she is playing 20/40 with 2 racks in front of her. From that day forward, I don't judge or make any assumptions anymore about a player's bankroll or ability to find magic money.

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Commerce. Silly 4/8 game with Klepton, JasonT and a few others we all know. Chinese girl with super-thick accent in BB with Klepton on the button - I'm standing over the table and can see her cards. Klepton raises on the button, she has QQ and is about to fold (she is short stacked) I start throwing money at her, telling her whatever she does... DON'T FOLD!! Please raise! she calls down to the river and loses to Klepton's KK. She looks disheartened as she loses all her chips on the table, I give her $100 as a consolation prize. She leaves the bill there and walks away rather sad from the table.

2 hours later she is playing 20/40 with 2 racks in front of her. From that day forward, I don't judge or make any assumptions anymore about a player's bankroll or ability to find magic money.

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are you sure it was the same girl?

a lot of asian women look the same to me.

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are you sure it was the same girl?

a lot of asian women look the same to me.

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oh great. can't wait to read the replies to this one.

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Commerce. Silly 4/8 game with Klepton, JasonT and a few others we all know. Chinese girl with super-thick accent in BB with Klepton on the button - I'm standing over the table and can see her cards. Klepton raises on the button, she has QQ and is about to fold (she is short stacked) I start throwing money at her, telling her whatever she does... DON'T FOLD!! Please raise! she calls down to the river and loses to Klepton's KK. She looks disheartened as she loses all her chips on the table, I give her $100 as a consolation prize. She leaves the bill there and walks away rather sad from the table.

2 hours later she is playing 20/40 with 2 racks in front of her. From that day forward, I don't judge or make any assumptions anymore about a player's bankroll or ability to find magic money.

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are you sure it was the same girl?

a lot of asian women look the same to me.

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First, you're a dumbass.

Second, I can verify it was the same woman.

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Commerce. Silly 4/8 game with Klepton, JasonT and a few others we all know. Chinese girl with super-thick accent in BB with Klepton on the button - I'm standing over the table and can see her cards. Klepton raises on the button, she has QQ and is about to fold (she is short stacked) I start throwing money at her, telling her whatever she does... DON'T FOLD!! Please raise! she calls down to the river and loses to Klepton's KK. She looks disheartened as she loses all her chips on the table, I give her $100 as a consolation prize. She leaves the bill there and walks away rather sad from the table.

2 hours later she is playing 20/40 with 2 racks in front of her. From that day forward, I don't judge or make any assumptions anymore about a player's bankroll or ability to find magic money.

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are you sure it was the same girl?

a lot of asian women look the same to me.

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First, you're a dumbass.

Second, I can verify it was the same woman.

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it was a joke.

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it was a joke


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Let the emoticon (smiley) be your friend.

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are you sure it was the same girl?

a lot of asian women look the same to me.

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I won't explain why, but this is very insulting to me.

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are you sure it was the same girl?

a lot of asian women look the same to me.

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First, you're a dumbass.

Second, I can verify it was the same woman.

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it was a joke.

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Without any indication that you were making a joke, I can tell you that your post came across as very insulting.

You're still a dumbass.

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Without any indication that you were making a joke

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Dude, everything he wrote was an indication he was making a joke. People around here are wound too tight. If someone said "All white people look the same to me" would you get offended? I wouldn't and I'd laugh at anyone that did. Relax, guys.

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Commerce. Silly 4/8 game with Klepton, JasonT and a few others we all know. Chinese girl with super-thick accent in BB with Klepton on the button - I'm standing over the table and can see her cards. Klepton raises on the button, she has QQ and is about to fold (she is short stacked) I start throwing money at her, telling her whatever she does... DON'T FOLD!! Please raise! she calls down to the river and loses to Klepton's KK. She looks disheartened as she loses all her chips on the table, I give her $100 as a consolation prize. She leaves the bill there and walks away rather sad from the table.

2 hours later she is playing 20/40 with 2 racks in front of her. From that day forward, I don't judge or make any assumptions anymore about a player's bankroll or ability to find magic money.

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are you sure it was the same girl?

a lot of asian women look the same to me.

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its true. im asian and even i have a hard time telling them apart.

btw isn't there a "one player to a hand" rule? how can you tell her what to do?

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I usually just look on their delivery bag to tell who's who.

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btw isn't there a "one player to a hand" rule? how can you tell her what to do?

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Only nits obey these rules or try to enforce them. I was at the table in the seat directly right of this girl and was helping during this hand also.

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Relax

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Perhaps its from playing almost exclusively online, but I couldn't care less whether my opponents are millionaires or alcoholic degenerates stealing their wives housekeeping money while their children go barefoot.

They've sat down at the table with money and want to play. Anything else in their lives is none of your business! Think how outraged you'd be if someone who knew nothing you about suddenly questioned whether you should be playing in a particular game.

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btw isn't there a "one player to a hand" rule? how can you tell her what to do?

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Only nits obey these rules or try to enforce them. I was at the table in the seat directly right of this girl and was helping during this hand also.

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are you sure about this? You kind of come across as a PC nit in this thread. And by kind of I mean definitely.

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are you sure it was the same girl?

a lot of asian women look the same to me.

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First, you're a dumbass.

Second, I can verify it was the same woman.

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it was a joke.

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Without any indication that you were making a joke, I can tell you that your post came across as very insulting.

You're still a dumbass.

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luv2drivett's post was (i thought) in a joking manner, so i was joking back. sorry if i offended anyone.

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btw isn't there a "one player to a hand" rule? how can you tell her what to do?

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Only nits obey these rules or try to enforce them. I was at the table in the seat directly right of this girl and was helping during this hand also.

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Actually if I remember correctly (we were being rather silly) the dealer didn't like what I was trying to do, but nobody at the table minded. She made me step away from the table, but I still directed her action from afar. Even the floor laughed, it was very funny and permissible since the hand became HU and her opponent was one of us.

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are you sure it was the same girl?

a lot of asian women look the same to me.

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I won't explain why, but this is very insulting to me.

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You're an asian woman?

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I wasn't passing judgement, only relaying an observation. There's a big difference between online and live play, much like the difference between attacking an enemy from an altitude of 30,000ft, or plunging a bayonnet into his throat while staring into his eyes. Same result, different experience.