5/10 NL - JTs
 

Real quick line check -

I ($1300) am in the BB with TcJc

Villain ($590) limps UTG, SB completes.

Flop ($30)

8c 9h 6c

I lead for $30, Villian minraises, SB folds, I push...

Re: 5/10 NL - JTs
 

Standard as it gets, no?

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perhaps a bit extreme.

your stack is not quite right for this move, and an UTG limper will often have a hand here that he is unwilling to lay down, reducing your FE (one of the key components to your move). Plus I want to make more money here when I can.

Just call his minraise and stack him AFTER you hit - he obviously likes his hand.

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Standard as it gets, no?

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betting $1250 into $100 pot is very standard. should be done once per orbit at minimum.

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Standard as it gets, no?

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betting $1250 into $100 pot is very standard. should be done once per orbit at minimum.

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It's really $550 into a $120 pot.

Re: 5/10 NL - JTs
 

the problem with this move is that no one will ever do this with a set, or an overpair for that matter. in my experience, the only hands that will do this on pp are oesd + flush draw. you are seriously defining your hand. but if you have no problem with that, have at it. its a pretty ridiculous overbet as far as %'s go though.

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betting $1250 into $100 pot is very standard. should be done once per orbit at minimum.

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My bad. I saw villian was short and didn't pay attention to bet sizes [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Re: 5/10 NL - JTs
 

I would make it $210 and get the rest in on the turn.

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I would make it $210 and get the rest in on the turn.

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Ewwwww. Why, Villain has given you odds to draw. Call and re-evaluate on turn.

Re: 5/10 NL - JTs
 

I dont mind push too much with villians 50bb stack.

With 100bb stacks you call miniraise and go from there...Or does anyone reraise??? Prob then, if he just calls, can creat awkward turn situation.

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I would make it $210 and get the rest in on the turn.

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Ewwwww. Why, Villain has given you odds to draw. Call and re-evaluate on turn.

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Why are you automatically assuming that the villain has a set? Maybe he only has the nuts and is prepared to get it all-in on the flop as a dog. Or maybe he has a hand that he is willing to fold to a 3-bet.

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I dont mind push too much with villians 50bb stack.

With 100bb stacks you call miniraise and go from there...Or does anyone reraise??? Prob then, if he just calls, can creat awkward turn situation.

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With 100 BB stacks I would definitely make it 210 on the flop. And the turn situation is only awkward if you're radically uncomfortable with sometimes getting your money in as a 2:1 dog.

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And the turn situation is only awkward if you're radically uncomfortable with sometimes getting your money in as a 2:1 dog.

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Huh?

I usually push the flop, sometimes I call depending on my mood. I love getting insta-called by hands with 40% equity because 'he is on a draw!!@'.

Re: 5/10 NL - JTs
 

Call, and check-raise the turn all-in. I think that would work a lot better. More than likely Villain is on a draw as well (KcQc? -something among those lines) and while you can certainly take down the pot, pushing the turn would allow you to take down a much bigger one since I don't think his bet on the turn would be pot-committing. And a turn CR All-in represents a much bigger hand than what you've done.

Kirk

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And the turn situation is only awkward if you're radically uncomfortable with sometimes getting your money in as a 2:1 dog.

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Huh?

I usually push the flop, sometimes I call depending on my mood. I love getting insta-called by hands with 40% equity because 'he is on a draw!!@'.

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Nothing wrong with overbetting the flop. I just like to play my big draws in a way that makes them indistinguishable from my sets.

RESULTS
 

Villian had 88 and called but I rivered the Qc to take it down.

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Nothing wrong with overbetting the flop. I just like to play my big draws in a way that makes them indistinguishable from my sets.

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Me too.

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I would make it $210 and get the rest in on the turn.

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Ewwwww. Why, Villain has given you odds to draw. Call and re-evaluate on turn.

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I would also call and re-evalute the turn.