1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

My immediate reaction to SB's quick donkbet was that he was drawing and wanted to push me off my hand.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($50)
UTG ($48.50)
MP ($13.20)
Button ($41.90)
SB ($59.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
]2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $2.5, Button calls $2.50, SB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($9) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $10, Hero???

Re: 1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($50)
UTG ($48.50)
MP ($13.20)
Button ($41.90)
SB ($59.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
]2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $2.5, Button calls $2.50, SB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($9) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $10, Hero???

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This seems to me like a bet with overcard hearts. It is highly unlikely that it represents a five. With stack sizes being as they are, you can't really raise here without pushing. I don't see any real reason to fold. So, the choice seems to me to be between pushing here OR calling then pushing a non-heart/non-ace turn.

I like flat calling and pushing a non-heart/non-ace turn.

Re: 1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

how is getting bet full pot getting "donkbetted"? am i missing something??????????

push all in, wtf?

Re: 1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

Looks like a pair smaller than your tens.

His call PF rather than raise pretty much rules out AA-JJ. I think big suited hearts would check this flop, it looks like he's worried about the flush draw.

Unless he holds 2's or 5's I think you are good and like a push.

Re: 1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

It is my understanding that donkbet is when you unexpectedly bet into the pfr.

Re: 1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

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Looks like a pair smaller than your tens.

His call PF rather than raise pretty much rules out AA-JJ. I think big suited hearts would check this flop, it looks like he's worried about the flush draw.

Unless he holds 2's or 5's I think you are good and like a push.

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If you think hero is good here, then why are you trying to fold out a worse hand? Do you not want to make money?

Re: 1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

I would call and reevaluate on turn

Re: 1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

OK so we got some responses. It seems the two options are call or push (obviously). The pushing crowd is probably in my camp, as we don't want to give this pot to the flush draw. The call crowd includes those that want to extract from a lower pp, and maybe fold to a turn push?

IMO he has hearts. So if I put him on

10% hearts w/ 2 overs
30% hearts w/ one over
25% hearts w/ no overs
25% pocket pair (lower)
10% other (including better pp)

What is my action?

Re: 1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

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OK so we got some responses. It seems the two options are call or push (obviously). The pushing crowd is probably in my camp, as we don't want to give this pot to the flush draw. The call crowd includes those that want to extract from a lower pp, and maybe fold to a turn push?

IMO he has hearts. So if I put him on

10% hearts w/ 2 overs
30% hearts w/ one over
25% hearts w/ no overs
25% pocket pair (lower)
10% other (including better pp)

What is my action?

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On further review, I retract my flat call push turn play because I don't think it get's any more calls from worse hands than pushing the flop. Just push now, if he's coming along then he's coming along; and you aren't going to fold this flop.

Re: 1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

Button still acts after me, this change anyone's call revealuate or push line?

Re: 1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

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Button still acts after me, this change anyone's call revealuate or push line?

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nope. Push now, button is unlikely to have QQ-AA. If button has JJ and decides to call your push, then that's the breaks. You really don't have much of a choice.

Re: 1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

Last call before results posted. Anyone disagree with the push?

Results
 

I push, Button insta calls, sb folds, of course i lose.

q5s.

Re: Results
 

i was going to say that a push is a large overbet with still one person left to act. granted the small stacks really don't leave you with much else but i'd still have re-raised 15 more to see what the button does. Smooth call would scare the [censored] out of me but i'd wager he'd push, allowing me an opportune moment to fold. However, i can't say i'd really fold.

Re: Results
 

Ok.

A) Lets pretend I smooth called and so did the button. Turn is a brick, what is my action now?

B) I smooth call and button pushes. SB folds, my action?

Re: 1010 raises out of bb and gets donkbetted on flop favorable flop
 

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It is my understanding that donkbet is when you unexpectedly bet into the pfr.

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Is the villain's bet really unexpected?