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lorinda 09-19-2005 03:11 AM

$11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
Hand Number 97251377

Hand Number 97252259

No content for now, I will go back after the games and look these two up and make them nice and readable for you.

Lori

Scuba Chuck 09-19-2005 03:22 AM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
The first one's river call is not THAT horrible. Getting to the river was horrible though.

Hand 2 looks pretty standard for a $11 buyin, except that I'm surprised he wasn't allin on the turn.

Games are soft huh?

lorinda 09-19-2005 03:48 AM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
Please someone write a Bodog converter.... I can read anything.... except this in original form.

No reads, but most of these players are donks, some might be okay, but if they are I wouldn't know which ones, so lets assume they are all donks for now.

chadhoang SB $ 947.50
lorinda A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] $ 1,000.00
leososkin $ 1,007.50
Dallas1333 $ 2,240.00
ultrarice $ 1,675.00
kev4175 $ 10.00
TheCube $ 1,350.00 (not the good cube)

chadhoang Small blind $ 5.00
lorinda Big blind $ 10.00
4 folds
TheCube Raise $ 40.00
lewdog 69 Call $ 40.00
1 fold
chadhoang Call $ 35.00
lorinda Call $ 30.00

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

chadhoang Check
lorinda Check
TheCube Check
lewdog 69 Bet $ 35.00
chadhoang Fold $ 0.00
lorinda Call $ 35.00
TheCube Fold $ 0.00

Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

lorinda Check
lewdog 69 Bet $ 55.00
lorinda Call $ 55.00

River: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

lorinda All-in $ 870.00


That's the first. On with the second....

Lori

lorinda 09-19-2005 03:54 AM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
This one is more interesting, some people will hate my preflop play here before we even get going, and then there's the dodgy flop and odd turn.....

Same reads. They are probably not all donks, but I was playing as if they all were, so you should assume so too for now.

fullyobel SB $ 875.00
StarryLife BB $ 1,600.00
natedawg $ 1,180.00
Meeklo $ 1,470.00
mhockey8 $ 1,040.00
GasBrakeDip $ 1,310.00
kobiashi $ 1,100.00
lorinda 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] $ 1,425.00

five folds
lorinda Call $ 30.00
fullyobel Call $ 15.00
StarryLife Raise $ 30.00
lorinda Call $ 30.00
fullyobel Fold (Impressive)

Flop: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

StarryLife Bet $ 30.00
lorinda Call $ 30.00

Turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

StarryLife Bet $ 30.00
lorinda Raise $ 460.00
StarryLife Call $ 430.00

River: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

StarryLife Check
lorinda All-in $ 875.00


Lori

Scuba Chuck 09-19-2005 03:57 AM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
[ QUOTE ]
This one is more interesting, some people will hate my preflop play here before we even get going, and then there's the dodgy flop and odd turn.....

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What's to hate preflop?

I don't think there's anything about this hand that is bad. In fact, it's the way I'd prolly play it, so if there is some criticisms, I would sure like to know.

lorinda 09-19-2005 03:58 AM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
I don't think open limping on the button is going to be popular.

Lori

applejuicekid 09-19-2005 04:01 AM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
[ QUOTE ]
I don't think open limping on the button is going to be popular.

Lori

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I open limp here.

adanthar 09-19-2005 04:07 AM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
Hand 2 PF is fine, I'm more curious about Hand 1.

The rest's all good. Have to love the overbets with the nuts.

Elektrik 09-19-2005 04:26 AM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
[ QUOTE ]
I don't think open limping on the button is going to be popular.

Lori

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Implied Odds in $11 w/ donks = $$$

I probably fold 1 p/f unless I really thought they were that bad. In which case I love the river push.

09-19-2005 04:39 AM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
Stay away; this is my turf.

That said, had one preflop is horrible, IMHO, but I guess you subscribe to monstrous implied odds theory? Flop turn and river are all fine.

Hand 2, preflop is perfect (Donks don't think about what you could have, so open limping is fine). I lead 90 on the flop, and the rest depends strongly on his response to that.

lorinda 09-19-2005 07:35 PM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
Results in white.

<font color="white">Both bets were called.

The first guy had T 5 spades.

The second guy had A 7 spades.

The purpose of this post is really to show that there is no point trying to extract a few chips from donks on the river as they're likely to pay you far more than you can imagine.
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Lori

cha59 09-19-2005 08:24 PM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Results in white.

<font color="white">Both bets were called.

The first guy had T 5 spades.

The second guy had A 7 spades.

The purpose of this post is really to show that there is no point trying to extract a few chips from donks on the river as they're likely to pay you far more than you can imagine.
</font>

Lori

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Good post &amp; good point Lori, thanks. Sometimes I get all caught up in how to extract chips in situations like that. Its simple against the donks - just push and they will call.

Dr_Jeckyl_00 09-19-2005 08:51 PM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
great post "Genie" [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

microbet 09-19-2005 11:39 PM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
First hand is very interesting. Risking a little to gain a lot.

Damn.

What buyins would you do this on? (anybody) Is there something special about bodog? Is it a site for only differently-abled ferrets?

Chaostracize 09-20-2005 12:04 AM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
Heh. I'm making people hate me, huh.

microbet 09-20-2005 12:07 AM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
I didn't really know/remember where the differently-abled ferrets thing came from.

Dr_Jeckyl_00 09-22-2005 02:10 PM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
[ QUOTE ]

Both bets were called.
The first guy had T 5 spades.
The second guy had A 7 spades.
The purpose of this post is really to show that there is no point trying to extract a few chips from donks on the river as they're likely to pay you far more than you can imagine.
Lori

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I like this post and have tried it successfully sincing receiving this advice. However, if this theory holds true, it is probably a good reason to not bluff all-in on the river... b/c you will get called!

schwza 09-22-2005 02:18 PM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
i hate the pre-flop on the A8 hand. i might fold AJ here. it's early - let donks bust each other and chill.

on the 22 hand, i think limping the button is fine. i'd raise the flop though. you want to stack Ax, and you don't want to give freebies to a flush draw. start getting building a pot.

kevstreet 09-22-2005 03:31 PM

Re: $11 Bodog hands (Donks, rivers, nuts)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I don't think open limping on the button is going to be popular.

Lori

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I open limp here.

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And it's not even close... do you see why? Don't mind me Lori, just wanted to respond to one of your posts like that. FWIW I open limp here all day.


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