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09-19-2005 12:32 AM

Theory about online cashouts
 
I played at absolute poker a few months ago and I did pretty well at first, winning 243 dollars the first time I cashed out playing 10 dollar sit n go's mostly. After i cashed out i tryed again to build my bankroll up the same way and it seemed that i was always caught in bad situations, QQ vs KK all the time, took horrible beats, QQ losing to Q3 off and the guy getting four flush cards. I also seemed to see the quality of my starting hands go down. i read on the internet somewhere that absolute poker is run by crooks who totally screw you every time you try to cash out, that the same thing happened ti him. I saw something similar to this at pokerstars. Is this a reasonable concern/theory or am I just buying into a myth.

Guernica4000 09-19-2005 12:39 AM

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First time I hear about the cash out myth. Did I ever tell you about my friend that was robbed but the thieves left a camera and a tooth brush behind?

Everyone knows online poker is ridged and that is what makes it fun.

Kaeser 09-19-2005 12:52 AM

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Your buying into a myth. The reason your going to get flamed is because about once a week or so we get a new post about the "cashout curse. The sites have no reason to cheat. They make plenty of money running an honest game.

Pog0 09-19-2005 01:06 AM

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I think you assumed the wrong definition of "theory" for this forum.

nervous 09-19-2005 01:50 AM

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09-19-2005 03:24 AM

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I've played on Absolute for about a year now. I have had many ups and downs, but over all i have shown great profit from the site. I see other regular players on the site, that are constantly winning. Just watch the tournament leader board everyweek, you'll see the same players at the top very often.
If your losing, you must be honest with yourself and figure out what you are doing wrong. If I start a small losing streak, I will often take a break from poker(3days to a week) During this time I evaluate my game, and study the game of poker. When I come back I play at the top of my skill and usually end my losing streak. Hope this helps

Onaflag 09-19-2005 04:09 AM

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Wrong forum. You're looking for the 2+2 forum that deals with subjects not commonly embraced by other forums. That would be Other Other Topics. They'll be nicer to you than the people here.

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The reason your going to get flamed is because about once a week or so we get a new post about the "cashout curse.

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Kaeser, that's not true. A week is seven days and my RigTracker shows 8.5 days inclusive of all forums. My apologizies if you're looking at the data from an earlier version. Upgrade! It's free.

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I think you assumed the wrong definition of "theory" for this forum.


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Nervous: Do you always repeat what others say? I have a friend who does this. I say something like, "The website appears to be down." and he responds by saying, "The website appears to be down." "Have you checked?"

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Just watch the tournament leader board everyweek, you'll see the same players at the top very often.

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Wasn't this somewhere in Rounders, WhiteAsian69, or whatever your name is? Now that I think about it, wasn't there an adult movie called WhiteAsian69? I might be confused, but I don't feel like hitting the back button to see your name. Sorry.

Whew....

Onaflag..........

nervous 09-19-2005 04:41 AM

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Do you always repeat what others say? I have a friend who does this. I say something like, "The website appears to be down." and he responds by saying, "The website appears to be down." "Have you checked?"

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nervous 09-19-2005 04:42 AM

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Oh, and

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FYP

Brash620 09-19-2005 07:54 PM

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Sounds like you just hit a bad stretch of cards after you cashed out. No reason to start slaming poker sites. Besides they make hundreds of thousands of dollars a day in rake. There is no reason for them to rig hands and risk fines and jail time. Also...

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i read on the internet somewhere that absolute poker is run by crooks who totally screw you every time you try to cash out, that the same thing happened ti him. I saw something similar to this at pokerstars.

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This was probably some douche bag that didn't know what he was talking about. In all honesty most people on the internet don't know what they're talking about.

Quicksilvre 09-19-2005 09:17 PM

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online poker is ridged

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09-19-2005 11:31 PM

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I play party and I hear the same theories. First thing I realized was "Hey! I have been in the same situation- all of a sudden being hit by obscene cards and circumstances." But of course, I have never withdrawn any money.

I think what you are experiencing is natural variation, and you and so many people out there are drawing unnecesary comparisons by human nature.

mvernon851 09-19-2005 11:56 PM

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You're buying into a myth.

varoadstter 09-20-2005 11:06 AM

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Sounds like they have turned off the WINMODE flag. You need to contact stockman on these boards for strategy tips on dealing with this problem.

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JonPKibble 09-20-2005 12:09 PM

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Is this a reasonable concern/theory or am I just buying into a myth.

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It's certainly possible to go on a cold streak after cashing out. But it's equally possible to go on a cold streak before cashing out.

There is no realistic way that you can make any logical correlation.

RoundTower 09-20-2005 12:52 PM

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It's certainly possible to go on a cold streak after cashing out. But it's equally possible to go on a cold streak before cashing out.


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No, it is less likely. If you have a cold streak you are less likely to be able to cash out.

Alex/Mugaaz 09-20-2005 01:29 PM

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It's certainly possible to go on a cold streak after cashing out. But it's equally possible to go on a cold streak before cashing out.


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No, it is less likely. If you have a cold streak you are less likely to be able to cash out.

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JonPKibble 09-20-2005 01:34 PM

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It's certainly possible to go on a cold streak after cashing out. But it's equally possible to go on a cold streak before cashing out.


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No, it is less likely. If you have a cold streak you are less likely to be able to cash out.

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Which further proves my point.

OrangeKing 09-20-2005 06:44 PM

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It's certainly possible to go on a cold streak after cashing out. But it's equally possible to go on a cold streak before cashing out.


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No, it is less likely. If you have a cold streak you are less likely to be able to cash out.

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Ding ding! Losing players will likely have to be on a real heater to build up any amount of money they want to cash out. Then, as they will usually be losing, they will (shockingly) usually lose after cashing out. Their losing brains then find a correlation, which as everyone who took Psych 101 knows, does not prove causation.

JonPKibble 09-21-2005 10:59 AM

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Ding ding! Losing players will likely have to be on a real heater to build up any amount of money they want to cash out. Then, as they will usually be losing, they will (shockingly) usually lose after cashing out. Their losing brains then find a correlation, which as everyone who took Psych 101 knows, does not prove causation.

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And you wouldn't expect them to blame their own poor play, would you???

09-23-2005 11:22 PM

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Even in my early days where i would raise K3o because i had a king i never thought the idea of a cash out curse was logical.

Even if it was true, the same people crying about this "issue" would be the same ones who would continue to play regardless.

I've been playing 2 years and in that time i've never had a straight flush or royal flush. Last weekend i hit a straight flush on saturday, and a straight flush on sunday. The day after that i lost aces full of kings to a royal flush. It's no conspiracy..win or lose.

09-24-2005 03:08 AM

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what are you talking about?

Jackarama_ 09-24-2005 06:17 AM

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there are plenty of ppl on here cash out regulary im sure,are they LUCKY they got selected to be on the winners list by the poker site?i think not.anyone who plays seriously and long enough, knows it is not rigged.

oreogod 09-24-2005 08:55 AM

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I think everyone feels just a little more retarded having read your post. Thanks, I think I could physically feel the braincells being killed as I read this horrendous piece of work. Bravo.

BarronVangorToth 09-24-2005 09:52 AM

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there are plenty of ppl on here cash out regulary im sure,are they LUCKY they got selected to be on the winners list by the poker site?

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We're not supposed to talk about this, but it's anyone with at least 1,000 *quality* posts on 2+2 - we all get dealt from the Pinochle deck.

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

dibbs 09-25-2005 03:46 AM

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Vomit. This isn't "poker theory" either, better suited for the internet forum.


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