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bustedchucks 09-18-2005 07:43 PM

scotch
 
ive been listening to tom waits all day and its made me realize its time to take the next step in my drunkardness...scotch. im quite fond of irish whiskey, primarily jameson. so i need some suggestions for scotch whisky, decent to good blends, accessible single malts, and what to stay away from. nothing too pricey, since the subtleties will probably be lost on me at the moment.
ice?, a little water added?, simply poured in a glass?

cheers.

smb394 09-18-2005 07:51 PM

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Somewhat affordable single malts that I like:

Glenmorangie 10yr. (about $35 bottle)
Glenlivet 12yr. ($32 per bottle)
Balvenie 10yr. ($26ish)

-note: I live in PA, where the communists run the liquor system...so your local prices are probably lower (all bottles are 750mL prices)

Also, on the rocks w/ 1 ice cube. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

manpower 09-18-2005 07:55 PM

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Johnny Walker Black isn't going to be a bad place to start. People who are *into* scotch swear by single malts though. A lot of good ones seem to have the word 'glen' in the name somewhere.

Also, Tastings will have ratings for this sort of thing.

correia 09-18-2005 08:04 PM

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http://jf-barbey.net/whisky/my_image...alvenie_10.jpg

brassnuts 09-18-2005 08:18 PM

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Any scotch will do. As long as it's not a blend, of course. Single malt. Glenlivet, Glenfiddich perhaps. Maybe a Glenge... any Glen.

beta1607 09-18-2005 08:21 PM

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Glenmorangie 10yr. (about $35 bottle)


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I have the more aged Glenmorangie and it is excellent but like $80/bottle. Dalwhinie (sp) is also very very good for like 50ish/bottle.

rohjoh 09-18-2005 08:28 PM

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smb394 09-18-2005 08:29 PM

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Glenmorangie 10yr. (about $35 bottle)


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I have the more aged Glenmorangie and it is excellent but like $80/bottle. Dalwhinie (sp) is also very very good for like 50ish/bottle.

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I definitely agree with this. It's one of those things that if you really enjoy, it costs you a fortune. Worth it though.

Tron 09-18-2005 08:48 PM

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Any scotch will do. As long as it's not a blend, of course. Single malt. Glenlivet, Glenfiddich perhaps. Maybe a Glenge... any Glen.

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Nice.

Eurotrash 09-18-2005 08:59 PM

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Any scotch will do. As long as it's not a blend, of course. Single malt. Glenlivet, Glenfiddich perhaps. Maybe a Glenge... any Glen.

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I love that quote. this post is so money.

Ulysses 09-18-2005 09:02 PM

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Search this forum. Many great scotch threads. The Balvenie 10 below is a good choice. The basic Macallan (10/12/whatever it is) is also a very good one to get started with. In a glass with a couple drops of water for the single malts. Blends over ice is a good choice. Black Label is a good one to start with there.

renodoc 09-18-2005 09:07 PM

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my first thought brassnuts

you're so money

thatpfunk 09-18-2005 09:09 PM

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Also, on the rocks w/ 1 ice cube.

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In on of the previous scotch threads someone said that good Scotch should never be served on the rocks as it dulls the taste. True or false?

beta1607 09-18-2005 09:11 PM

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false.
Some quality scotch is actually meant to be mixed with ice or water to help develop the taste. Generally the label of a fine single malt scotch will say the proper way to drink it.

DrPublo 09-18-2005 09:13 PM

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I like the Macallan 12 yr and the Balvenie 12 yr doublewood. About $40/bottle for each.

Two ice cubes is perfect.

If you want to get pricy I really really like the Macallan 18 yr.

The Doc

smb394 09-18-2005 10:13 PM

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Also, on the rocks w/ 1 ice cube.

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In on of the previous scotch threads someone said that good Scotch should never be served on the rocks as it dulls the taste. True or false?

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Not quite sure to be honest. This is more of a personal preference. And, the ice cube should be one of those small ones.

Los Feliz Slim 09-18-2005 11:53 PM

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Everyone's hitting the single malts in this thread, and I agree with them. But, for day-to-day, drinking yourself into the guttter, you need to be aware of some blends. The local Costco has been selling me Johnnie Walker "Green" 15-year for about 40 bucks, which is very reasonable. It's a good place to start, Johnnie Walker-wise, before you get to Blue.

cold_cash 09-19-2005 12:34 AM

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Screw the scotch.

Have a word with the bird.

http://photobucket.com/albums/y34/co.../th_turkey.gif

theben 09-19-2005 12:39 AM

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green label and black label got excellent reviews at the world spirits convention in SF, beating out both gold and blue label. (because of better mix of value and quality) i think they each got in the range of golds/double golds.

theben 09-19-2005 12:46 AM

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some others opinios that probably matter:

Best Scotch Whisky - The Dalmore 21 Year Old Single Malt Scotch, Highland, Scotland [43%] ($80) Importer: Fielding & Jones Ltd. - Deerfield, IL

Cragganmore 10 Year Old Single Malt Scotch, Sherry Cask, Speyside, Scotland [40%] ($125) Importer: Diageo - NY, NY

Ballantine's 12 Year Old Scotch, Scotland [40%] ($22) Importer: Allied Domecq Spirits - Westport, CT

PokerGoblin 09-19-2005 12:48 AM

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I'm surprised no one mentioned J&B yet. My personal preference.

I picked up a quart in the duty free shop in Canada for like $19.

I should have stocked up.

PG

xadrez 09-19-2005 09:38 AM

Re: scotch
 
Go with a single malt if you can afford it.

Talsiker
Oban
Balvenie Doublewood
Lagavulin

are some of my favorites...

TheTROLL 09-19-2005 10:21 AM

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Ardbeg is a great thing.

There's a book the Scotch fans will enjoy called Raw Spirit by Ian Banks (the same guy who writes fiction as Ian M. Banks), detailing his travels round dozens of the distilleries, reviews of their whiskies and some amusing stories about the history of Scotch generally and idiosyncracies of the individual distilleries.

LetYouDown 09-19-2005 10:33 AM

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http://www.grobismywhisky.de/images/...WalkerBlue.jpg
End of thread.

daveymck 09-19-2005 02:02 PM

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Maybe cos J&B is horrible, Jamesons isnt that far behind as well the op will find a lot of these whiskeys a revelation.

Some whiskey can be drunk with water but generally I would say having it on the rocks is an abomination.

Isle of Jura another goods one , Glenmorangie 15 years well worth it as is the special reserve one made in a different warehouse and is a lot more peaty.

I hate glenfiddich but some of there specials are not bad. Johnny Walker is a big brand but agian I dont think is that nice.

The thing with most of these mentioned are they awill be $40-$50 but they are drinks to be enjoyed having 1 or 2 relaxing or at the enbd of a session they are not for getting drunk on and drinking a bottle up in a night.

daveymck 09-19-2005 02:03 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Go with a single malt if you can afford it.

Talsiker
Oban
Balvenie Doublewood
Lagavulin

are some of my favorites...

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Oban is very nice as well.

rmarotti 09-19-2005 02:07 PM

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A blended whiskey that tastes a little two sweet and sort of boring while being way overpriced is not a thread-ender. Ever.

LetYouDown 09-19-2005 02:13 PM

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A blended whiskey that tastes a little too sweet and sort of boring while being way overpriced is not a thread-ender. Ever.

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Too sweet? Wow, never heard it called that. I've tasted all the Glens and a plethora of single malts. I've never found anything that fit my taste quite like Blue. Overpriced, perhaps...but it's fantastic. I never order it when I go out, as $20/glass is pushing it. But we have a Duty Free nearby and you can get a bottle for ~$120...so it's worth it to me.

Lazymeatball 09-19-2005 02:14 PM

Re: scotch
 
I really wish I saw this thread before I bought that bottle of Dewar's. So what's the consensus on Dewar's as a cheap blend?

xadrez 09-19-2005 02:24 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Go with a single malt if you can afford it.

Talisker
Oban
Balvenie Doublewood
Lagavulin

are some of my favorites...

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FMP

And let me add that I single malt shouldnt be put on the rocks. Ice is for masking taste, and quite frankly why the hell would you spend 50+ dollars on something to not taste it? A couple drops of spring water on the other hand can open up a single malt quite well.

rmarotti 09-19-2005 02:29 PM

Re: scotch
 
But it in bulk. Mix it with soda. Don't tell your friends.

jason_t 09-19-2005 02:30 PM

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The Johnnie Walker blends are really good, and I like their image, but there is no way this could ever end a thread about scotch when it has to compete with so many amazing single malts. Try again.

rmarotti 09-19-2005 02:31 PM

Re: scotch
 
non disputandem digustibus est, i suppose.

LetYouDown 09-19-2005 02:32 PM

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So what's the consensus on Dewar's as a cheap blend?

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Not awful...not great. Middle of the pack as far as cheaper blends go, IMO. I've had it when I'm at a local restaurant and it's basically all they have.

LetYouDown 09-19-2005 02:33 PM

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non disputandem digustibus est, i suppose.

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Fair enough. To each his own.

rmarotti 09-19-2005 02:40 PM

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ive been listening to tom waits all day and its made me realize its time to take the next step in my drunkardness...scotch.

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To the OP:

This is an awesome reason to start drinking scotch. Keep up posts like this and you'll go far.

Vish 09-19-2005 02:43 PM

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If you can get hold of a bottle, try Te Bheag. It's expensive (I paid around 80 euros), and I'm not even sure if it's available in the U.S., but it's by far the best Scotch I've ever had (Balvenie used to be my favorite). I fell for it even before I tasted it, it smells so good. Develop your palette on the Glens and Balvenies and such first, though. And please, don't put ice in your Scotch.

daveymck 09-19-2005 03:02 PM

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If you can get hold of a bottle, try Te Bheag. It's expensive (I paid around 80 euros), and I'm not even sure if it's available in the U.S., but it's by far the best Scotch I've ever had (Balvenie used to be my favorite). I fell for it even before I tasted it, it smells so good. Develop your palette on the Glens and Balvenies and such first, though. And please, don't put ice in your Scotch.

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I did some searching loads of online UK retailers have it but none of them seem to export to the US I think there may be some duties that make it difficult for 1 bottle at a time to go over.

Brain 09-19-2005 11:12 PM

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http://www.maximonline.com/entertain...man_010705.jpg

I love scotch. Scotchy, scotch, scotch. Here it goes down, down in my belly.

JunkHead 09-20-2005 12:03 AM

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http://jf-barbey.net/whisky/my_image...alvenie_10.jpg

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Oh my, you hit the nail dead on the head there, my friend. What a beautiful Scotch.


JunkHead


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