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LoaferGee12 09-16-2005 04:03 AM

Will the Sox collapse and lose the central
 

TheRover 09-16-2005 06:11 AM

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That would seems to increase my chances of both Oakland and Cleveland making the playoffs, which would be excellent. I hope they do.

kyro 09-16-2005 07:15 AM

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Is it a bad thing that I saw "Will the Sox collapse" and assumed you were talking about the Red Sox and said "looks like it."

That game against Chicago on Labor Day is hurting them.

wh1t3bread 09-16-2005 07:50 AM

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With 6 games left still against the indians its possible.

Toro 09-16-2005 09:29 AM

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I assumed you were talking about the Red Sox and said "looks like it."

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Yes it does. But to me, it's been nothing short of amazing that they've been able to hang on as long as they have with mediocre starting pitching(read no ace) and no bullpen.

I'm just hoping that by the time they reach the last series with the Yanks, the Sox won't need a sweep to win it.

LoaferGee12 09-16-2005 11:47 AM

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Is it a bad thing that I saw "Will the Sox collapse" and assumed you were talking about the Red Sox and said "looks like it."

That game against Chicago on Labor Day is hurting them.

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Ha I didnt even realize the same thing was happening to bosox. I thought they were cruisin for some reason.

pokerdirty 09-16-2005 01:00 PM

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the answer is no. and it's not even close.

they'll take the WC away from boston though.

brettbrettr 09-16-2005 01:12 PM

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they'll take the WC away from boston though.

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nh.

SocialWelfareIV 09-16-2005 01:17 PM

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6 versus CLE and 7 versus MIN. Plus 4 at DET.

Looking at that schedule it wouldn't be shocking if the Sox missed out on the playoffs.

JayLear 09-16-2005 01:36 PM

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6 versus CLE (10-3) and 7 versus MIN (6-5). Plus 4 at DET (12-3).


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I'm not worried about the opponents at all -- I'm worried about the way they've been playing. They're playing like Jerry Manuel is still managing.

Voltron87 09-16-2005 01:36 PM

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no, they wont

theyre 4.5 up with 16 games left,if they win one big game theyre set. its not happening.

SocialWelfareIV 09-16-2005 01:43 PM

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6 versus CLE (10-3) and 7 versus MIN (6-5). Plus 4 at DET (12-3).


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I'm not worried about the opponents at all -- I'm worried about the way they've been playing. They're playing like Jerry Manuel is still managing.

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I wouldn't put too much into less than 15 games against a single team in terms of splits. CLE, MIN, and DET are all at least decent teams; if you're not beating KC it's likely that you'll have trouble with these three teams. I guess my point is that for as poorly as the White Sox are playing, if they were playing some sorry teams they would still be able to pick up the division title pretty easily. Not necessarily the case with these three teams (particularly MIN & CLE whom the Sox have 13 against).

JayLear 09-16-2005 02:29 PM

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6 versus CLE (10-3) and 7 versus MIN (6-5). Plus 4 at DET (12-3).


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I'm not worried about the opponents at all -- I'm worried about the way they've been playing. They're playing like Jerry Manuel is still managing.

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I wouldn't put too much into less than 15 games against a single team in terms of splits. CLE, MIN, and DET are all at least decent teams; if you're not beating KC it's likely that you'll have trouble with these three teams. I guess my point is that for as poorly as the White Sox are playing, if they were playing some sorry teams they would still be able to pick up the division title pretty easily. Not necessarily the case with these three teams (particularly MIN & CLE whom the Sox have 13 against).

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They're playing awful lately. If they don't turn it around, they're in trouble. If they closer to thier capability, they shoudl have no problem taking enough games from these teams to win the division.

That said, as a lifelong Sox fan, I'm very worried.

09-16-2005 04:18 PM

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Lets look at Clevelands scheldule. 7 games versus Kansas City, 6 Games versus the Sox, and 3 games versus Tampa Bay. Cleveland WILL make the playoffs.

cdxx 09-16-2005 04:58 PM

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With 6 games left still against the indians its possible.

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cleveland is 5 back in the loss column. the white sox magic number is 4.5. surely they can get 5 chicago wins/cleveland losses combined.

the division is all but wrapped up.

namknils 09-16-2005 05:30 PM

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Um, the White Sox magic number is 13. They've been tanking for a while and the division is still very much up for grabs.

johnnybeef 09-16-2005 06:05 PM

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diehard indians fan here, the answer is no. although, it will be close.

Voltron87 09-16-2005 06:33 PM

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theyre not going to lose it. the division is pretty much wrapped up, if chicago wins even 2 out of 6 games with cleveland its over. they can end it in one series, this is one or two games away from being completely over.

LoaferGee12 09-18-2005 03:56 PM

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theyre not going to lose it. the division is pretty much wrapped up, if chicago wins even 2 out of 6 games with cleveland its over. they can end it in one series, this is one or two games away from being completely over.

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Ugh, I wish I had the same confidence. I honestly think it's a lot closer than you think. Especially if we lose today. The thought of 2.5 ... *shudder*

JayLear 09-18-2005 05:17 PM

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theyre not going to lose it. the division is pretty much wrapped up, if chicago wins even 2 out of 6 games with cleveland its over. they can end it in one series, this is one or two games away from being completely over.

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Ugh, I wish I had the same confidence. I honestly think it's a lot closer than you think. Especially if we lose today. The thought of 2.5 ... *shudder*

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Still 3.5 baby. At least we know Cleveland can't leave Wednesday with the division lead! [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
Must see TV starting tomorrow night...


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