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"PartyGaming the internet's leading pkier site, saw it's share price fall by 33% after it revealed that new customer growth and spending by players had slowed more than anticipated, worrying investors that the online gaming boom may be ending."

ouch...is this what schoonmaker and ed miller were talking about? I guess here comes the poker bust.

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With all the new competition in real money wagering games out there, of course poker will show a decline. Online Monopoly for instance has been increasing 125% per quarter the last two years. It is not uncommon to see 15,000 players now at the top Monopoly sites. I have been multi-tabling 4 games of Monopoly at two sites now, which was virtually unthought of just last year.

So with all the new great gambling alternatives out there, poker sites are sure to show some decline. If Party was smart, they'd start a Party Monopoly site of their own.

Now some people are saying Battleship is the next great emerging gambling game to come. All I can say is these poker sites need to get on the ball and expand their offerings or be left in the dust.

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Isnt Monopoly entirely luck based? I mean you pretty much buy up every property you land on until they are gone and hope that you got the best ones. Then build houses and whoever has the best property in the end wins.

People wont stop gambling. They will continue to go to casino's. They will continue to play poker.

Investers are just worried becasue they buy in with an expectation of a certain rate of growth. The growth has slowed, but 300%Annual growth doesnt last forever. We will see what happens after the 2005 WSOP.

Greg

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Most online players don't play optimal Monopoly strategy and therefore a top monopoly player can clean up on the noobs.

Deal making is the key, as well as being able to value the utilities correctly.

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how much money are we talking about in a game of monopoly?

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Most online players don't play optimal Monopoly strategy and therefore a top monopoly player can clean up on the noobs.

Deal making is the key, as well as being able to value the utilities correctly.

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What is the proper valuation? I value the little purple (cheapest) properties more. You make more in the long run with them and a hotel then you ever will from the utilities. Railroads are good if you can get a couple early on but rarely pay back your investment without multiple players.

Does this sound about right? How many people play on each game?

Greg

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I also have to wonder whether it is easier to learn than poker. If so wouldnt your advantage decrease much faster than with poker, where the proper play is many times counter intuitive and hard to realize without actual studying (ie books etc)?

Greg

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I think you all are imagining the Monopoly game you played as a kid. Online real money Monopoly is much different. Just the doubling cube alone makes the game totally different. Often a double is declined after the first couple rolls and a new game begins. Games are always heads up games.

I have been in a $5 buyin game where the doubling cube hit 64 and have won $320. My opponent was behind the whole way but kept doubling back at me each turn. I would then beaver it and double again on my turn. Just a total noob.

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2+2 poster Aaron Brown wrote a couple of articles on Monopoly from a quantitative analyst viewpoint. Interesting reading.

http://www.wilmott.com/pdfs/040810_brown.pdf (part 1)
http://www.wilmott.com/pdfs/040831_brown.pdf (part 2)

where?
 

where do you play monopoly online for money?

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wow never knew there was online gambling for monopoly, backgammon or other games. Truly an enlightening day.

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where do you play monopoly online for money?

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2+2 poster Aaron Brown wrote a couple of articles on Monopoly from a quantitative analyst viewpoint. Interesting reading.

http://www.wilmott.com/pdfs/040810_brown.pdf (part 1)
http://www.wilmott.com/pdfs/040831_brown.pdf (part 2)

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Can anyone open these links? I can not.

Greg

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Isnt Monopoly entirely luck based? I mean you pretty much buy up every property you land on until they are gone and hope that you got the best ones. Then build houses and whoever has the best property in the end wins.

People wont stop gambling. They will continue to go to casino's. They will continue to play poker.

Greg

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Regarding the play of Monopoly you mention, the exact thing is said about poker - by people that don't understand the game.

Dogmeat [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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2+2 poster Aaron Brown wrote a couple of articles on Monopoly from a quantitative analyst viewpoint. Interesting reading.

http://www.wilmott.com/pdfs/040810_brown.pdf (part 1)
http://www.wilmott.com/pdfs/040831_brown.pdf (part 2)

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Can anyone open these links? I can not.

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[/ QUOTE ] They're Adobe Acrobat files. You can download a free reader (Google is your friend for the link). The links work fine.

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Wow, I thought he was kidding about online Monopoly.

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I have the professional Acrobat 7. I understand PDF but they dont open properly for me. Its possible that my work computer can not download them without permission though.

Greg

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Wow, I thought he was kidding about online Monopoly.

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We should not even be talking about this. The last thing the emerging Monopoly market needs now is multi-tabling 2+2 poker pros dominating the present fishtank.

We all know how the downfall of online poker started, and it was here. Online Monopoly needs time to grow the schools of fish before they are all swallowed up.

Not to mention the infiltration of multiple account bonus whores depleting the start up capital of the fleggling sites.

So lets just stop this thread now before to much pub comes this way.

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This is actually a poker forum guys, not a site about monopoly, although I love monopoly an I´m more than thrilled now that I know that it can be played online for money.
THX
Tess

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No need to worry. Those articles hurt my brain enough so that I'll stick to poker, where my tenth grade probability pwnage is enough to win.

Still, that's pretty damn cool.

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I want to learn the proper strategy for blackjack tournies.

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I really want to learn/hear more about this online monopoly ... sounds very fun.

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the sites do a crappy job of advertising because I am googling every expression I can think of and no glaringly obvious sites have come up

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We all know how the downfall of online poker started

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what online-poker downfall?

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We all know how the downfall of online poker started

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what online-poker downfall?

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The much discussed downfall of online poker! You got to keep up Bob. Online Monopoly taking all the fish may just be the reason.

Will online poker pro's be able to adjust to the online Monopoly games is the big question. Or will they just become the fish that stream in and out of the sites? I'm guessing most of you pro's who can't find a good game of poker will become our fish at the Monopoly sites very soon.

Good luck!

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Ok, so I read the monopoly posts, and I thought it was very obvious he was joking, but everyone believes him, so now I'm confused.

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I'm surprised there hasn't been more questions about real money online Battleship. Personally, if you have skill, you can do much better on Battleship than Monopoly because there is no luck factor in the what the dice do.

Someone with a good mathmatical mind can dominate a person without one in Battleship.

Just my two cents worth!

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So i dont get it...are these sites real?

If so...link?

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The majority of posters in this thread have no idea what's going on in this thread. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I for one, however, understand that online poker died months ago. That's why I've been playing real money internet Chutes & Ladders. I have a nice rakeback account.

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So i dont get it...are these sites real?

If so...link?

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It's like fight club right now.

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That's why I've been playing real money internet Chutes & Ladders.

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Heads up, there is a lot of collusion going on at present in Chutes & Ladder. It is discussed in depth at the 'online gambling-board games' forum.

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are we going to horn in on your monopoly "fish?"

PS-gnomes are a bad word. Who would ever create multiple accounts. That's shameful. LOL.

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I'm surprised there hasn't been more questions about real money online Battleship. Personally, if you have skill, you can do much better on Battleship than Monopoly because there is no luck factor in the what the dice do.

Someone with a good mathmatical mind can dominate a person without one in Battleship.

Just my two cents worth!

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I'm tired of you letting out all the secrets in this thread. I challenge you to a HU battleship or monopoly game, any amount of $$$ you want, chump.

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I have an online monopoly 5th generation pattern mapper for sale, if anyone is interested.

Beware of online Battleship, most sites use a "doom-switch".

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You know, it's literally been years since I got taken by a gimmick post, and I've seen some pretty damn good ones. gg.

(I still wish I could play Monopoly for money now [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] )

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2+2 poster Aaron Brown wrote a couple of articles on Monopoly from a quantitative analyst viewpoint. Interesting reading.

http://www.wilmott.com/pdfs/040810_brown.pdf (part 1)
http://www.wilmott.com/pdfs/040831_brown.pdf (part 2)

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Can anyone open these links? I can not.

Greg

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Just opened the first with no trouble.

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Ok, so I read the monopoly posts, and I thought it was very obvious he was joking, but everyone believes him, so now I'm confused.

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You know, it's literally been years since I got taken by a gimmick post, and I've seen some pretty damn good ones. gg.

(I still wish I could play Monopoly for money now [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] )

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Me too, I think Im still not sure [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].
Would 2+2 write a strategy guide

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You know, it's literally been years since I got taken by a gimmick post, and I've seen some pretty damn good ones. gg.

(I still wish I could play Monopoly for money now [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] )

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Me too, I think Im still not sure [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].
Would 2+2 write a strategy guide

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I also got taken in, but the thing is, you can play a lot of similar games online for money through places like zone.com. So Monopoly for money is not totally unrealistic. Me though, I was always a candy-land ace, can't wait till i can play that online for money.

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All I can say now is, there is a ton of interest in real money Monopoly!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]