Am I doing something wrong...?
Hi!
I have played poker from beginning of this year (active playing) and bought PT in the beginning of June. I played from January - May 0.25/0.50$ and I did okey, got some money for use. Then I started to play FL also and in few weeks I left NL because of few really bad beats. But what Im worried about is downswings or maybe Im not too sure is it only downswing or maybe Im doing something wrong. First I played 2/4 until got money for laptop...I had about 5 weeks +-0 season (end of June to end of July) Then I started with 300bb bankroll in 0.5/1$ FL got it to 600$ in two weeks and moved to 1/2$ and got it to 1200$ in 10 days. Then I moved to 2/4, but had few bad beats and moved back to 1/2$ FL with 500bb bankroll. Now in September I have played about 12 000 hands and Im down about 50bb. Here are my stats (I wanted to put picture here, but I cant upload atm :/): Game Level: 2/4, 1/2, 0.5/1 Total Hands: 9894, 17276, 12827 VP$IP: 20.45, 19.19, 19.01 VP$IP(sb):43.95, 36.94, 43.01 Folded sb to steal: 79.07, 81.90, 75.41 Folded bb to steal: 48.57, 51.96, 53.66 Att. to steal blinds: 30.40, 34.00, 32.74 Won$WSF: 35.72, 34.49, 35.89 Amount won: 717.23$, 627.22$, 416.214 BB/100hands: 1.81, 1.82, 3.24 Went to SD: 36.58, 34.07, 35.47 Won $ at SD: 48.99, 52.21, 52.19 PF raise: 10.08, 11.12, 11.69 Is there something wrong with my stats? Can u see Im doing something wrong. I just feel that I have been very unlucky, but I want to get my play better. I make mistakes, and Im trying to learn from them. That is how I can get my results a bit better, but what can I do more. Im usually playing 4 tables at time. |
Re: Am I doing something wrong...?
why do u move down after a few bad beats? and a 50BB swing is nothing to be worried about. Have you read SSH for limit? keep participating on the forum by way of posting hands and responding to hand posts.
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Re: Am I doing something wrong...?
I have read SS2 and other books also.
I moved down, because I didnt feel comfortable having 300bb bankroll so I wanted to have 500bb bankroll. I know 50bb is nothing, that wasnt the point. Point was I have played over 12 000 hands for that. And thats 2nd time in my 3 months limitcareer. Is that normal? I know I can do +-0 even when Im running bad, but running bad for weeks isnt so great and I would like to get those downswings shorter. I will try to find few hands to post here later. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
Re: Am I doing something wrong...?
SS2 is not the book to be reading for loose passive small stakes games.
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Re: Am I doing something wrong...?
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but running bad for weeks isnt so great and I would like to get those downswings shorter. [/ QUOTE ] wouldn't we all |
Hand nr1:
UTG: 17.02/11.03/97hands
MP2: 87.88/6.06/33hands Button: 70.37/0.93/108hands Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, Button calls. Flop: (17.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Button calls, UTG folds, Hero calls. Turn: (11.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls. River: (15.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 17.75 BB |
Re: Hand nr1:
Why didn't you re-raise that rainbow flop?
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Re: Hand nr1:
I wanted button out at turn, I dont think raising at flop would have helped me at all. Thats why...Should I have reraised that flop?
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Hand nr2
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls. Turn: (3.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls. River: (11.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero ???. Final Pot: 13.25 BB Call or Raise? |
Re: Hand nr1:
I just don't know what more you could have wanted from that flop. You had AKo and you flopped A rainbow. That is the perfect time to start jamming (while you are ostensibly ahead).
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Hand nr3:
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls. Flop: (5.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls. Turn: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 5.75 BB |
Re: Hand nr2
I fold this PF.
I think you have to raise the river. |
Re: Hand nr1:
Uhg, 3 bet that flop while you may be ahead and button is still in the hand, presumably drawing (to who knows what). If it gets capped then you can think about slowing down.
I'll wait for better minds on hand 2. I really hate it myself when I have a broadway straight and the board pairs after heavy action. A typical guy could have gone nuts on the turn with anything: from a lower straight to a set or 2 pairs he slowplayed on the flop and filled up or not on the river. A reraise means we're sunk pretty much always, and the pot is going to be too big to fold then, so I'm leaning on weakly calling. |
Big pp, not so great flop
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (9.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero folds, CO calls. Final Pot: 8.25 BB Now I think I should have check-call (for 1 bet). What do you think? |
Re: Hand nr1:
Hand 1, I would definitely reraise that flop. Button already called 2 bets, you might as well try to squeeze some more out of him before the turn hits and he realizes he's lost. Or, alternatively, you might as well get him to fold before the turn hits and he makes his miracle set on his low pocket pair.
I think you didn't give us the aggression stats on these players, and instead only the preflop raise stats, so I'm not sure what kind of player MP2 is except that he's way loose. Without knowing whether he's aggressive or passive, I definitely am reraising this, for value, to see if he caps, etc. |
Re: Big pp, not so great flop
Thats ok. Bet, fold when its 2 back to you, is standard vs. typical villians.
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Re: Hand nr2
I was just mixing my play while trying to steal blinds or atleast button [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] bb usually looks flop for 1 bet, but let it go if he doesnt hit, thats why I though stealing might be good(+Button is tight).
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Re: Hand nr1:
MP2 calls 3 cold PF then raises the flop - AA, AK, KK, JJ(?) maybe AJ if he cold calls that
UTG caps and folds - bit strange you may want to make a note on that for future - seems to make his hand range quite large for UTG. I don't like the turn bet - you are WA/WB here - call down |
Re: Hand nr1:
I think you guys are right. I didnt have much reads about MP2, but I think he raise only good hands (good for him might be A with kicker below T [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]), So I put him on A(atleast).
But tbh, I dont think button will fold there since he already called 2 bets. If I though im ahead I would definately reraise there. Thanks for advices. |
Re: Hand nr2
6 handed I think this is ok
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Re: Hand nr2
Hand 2, I wish I had some sort of read on BB. Loose, tight, aggressive, passive? Is he likely to slowplay a set on the flop against one opponent? Would he have reraised preflop with pocket J's, q's, 8's?
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Re: Hand nr3:
Hand 3, I'd play the same way you did. By the turn, your opponent is still betting, and you have nothing, give it up and fold.
And, you are posting too many hands to this one thread, it's too hard to discuss them all at once. |
Re: Hand nr2
I didn't post anything then [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Re: Hand nr1:
That guy was very loose, so he could have AQ, AT...Didnt have too good reads then :/ And I didnt want cheap river for button.
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Re: Am I doing something wrong...?
Looks like you are going to showdown a bit too often at 2/4 (which is probably why your W$SD is too low).
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Re: Am I doing something wrong...?
Might be true, I started playing limit then so... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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