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colgin 09-06-2005 12:03 PM

A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
I would apreciate comments on the following plan for "taking a shot" (as opposed to making a permannent move) at $10/20 6-max.

I currently have over 1,000 BBs for $5/10 (which is what I am currently playing). My tentative plan would be to build up (hopefully) to 1200 BB and then use the 200 BBs as a 100BB "shot" roll at 10/20 6-max. If I win great. If I lose it I go back to $5/10 and repeat. I guess one issue is even if I win (whether on the first, second or some subsequent attempt) how I would know whether to make the move permanent or not. I guess I would want to (a) feel that I was a winner in the game (not just based on short-term results) and (b) have a roll of 800-1000 BBs.

All thoughts are appreciated. Thanks.

Kyle 09-06-2005 12:06 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
Definately take a shot. Use good table selection and hope you run well. 10/20 is not that much different than 5/10 just a little more agg. If you feel like your out of your league just move back down and keep taking shots until you feel comfortable. Good luck

spydog 09-06-2005 12:14 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
Continue playing 5/10.

Every day, 1 or 2 table 10/20 for an hour or so. Only pick juicy tables and focus heavily on reads.

DMBFan23 09-06-2005 12:15 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
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Definately take a shot. Use good table selection and hope you run well. 10/20 is a lot different than 5/10 a shitload more agg. If you feel like your out of your league just move back down and keep taking shots until you feel comfortable. Good luck

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I'm working on the same plan, once I have 500 BB for 10/20 I'm gonna take 100 BB and see how I run

of course, I haven't played in like 4 days so I need to get on my horse

sammy_g 09-06-2005 12:15 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
Do you play for a living?

I might give it more than 100BBs. Very easy to drop that if you run bad at first.

krishanleong 09-06-2005 12:18 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
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10/20 is not that much different than 5/10 just a little more agg.

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Generally you only see this comment from people who don't have a ton of hands at the limit. IMO experienced players know it's a very different game.

Colgin, taking a shot is good. You need to come away with a better idea of the skills you need to work on at 5/10 to make it at 10/20. This is the most important thing about taking a shot.

Krishan

Danenania 09-06-2005 12:25 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
I say go for it. Sounds like you are ready. Make it 150 BB though. 100 BB swings are speed bumps in this game.

pyroponic 09-06-2005 12:26 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
Or you can do what I did and take a 600 BB win or bust shot hehe.

colgin 09-06-2005 12:35 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
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Do you play for a living?

I might give it more than 100BBs. Very easy to drop that if you run bad at first.

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No. I have a full time job. Poker is just a hobby.

colgin 09-06-2005 12:38 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
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Colgin, taking a shot is good. You need to come away with a better idea of the skills you need to work on at 5/10 to make it at 10/20. This is the most important thing about taking a shot.


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Good advice. This was sort of my thinking for the idea of taking a shot. I didn't necessarily seem to make sense to just play 5/10 until I had 1,000 BBs for 10/20 and then move up full time saying "OK, now I am ready since I have the roll".

sammy_g 09-06-2005 12:45 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
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I didn't necessarily seem to make sense to just play 5/10 until I had 1,000 BBs for 10/20 and then move up full time saying "OK, now I am ready since I have the roll".

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True, but you shouldn't need a 1000BB roll if you don't play for a living. What you have now should be adequate if you can step down if things turn sour.

I would take a shot at the game, and if things go well, stay! If not, then go back to 5/10, rebuild your bankroll and confidence, work on your game, and take another shot another time.

Lmn55d 09-06-2005 12:47 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
make it a 200BB shot sir.

MAxx 09-06-2005 12:51 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
you will know when you know... just like when you knew 5/10 was a good home for you for the moment. happy shooting.

air 09-06-2005 12:54 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
I can't offer you any advice but I have the exact same plan (although first I want to pay-off all my bills so I will not be going for it for a few months). I think it's a great plan. Good luck!

sthief09 09-06-2005 12:56 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
the most important factor is whether you think you can beat the game, and for how much

krishanleong 09-06-2005 01:55 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
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make it a 200BB shot sir.

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I really think 200BB will fry you as well as take a long time to make up at a lower limit.

Krishan

baronzeus 09-06-2005 02:00 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
this is what i did except. just like you can start out running bad you can start out running good. take a shot, you've gotta move up eventually.

DeathDonkey 09-06-2005 02:08 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
One thing to consider is how much actual dollars can you lose and not freak out? For me the magic number is like 1000 in a short period of time. Around there I start to remember it is real money and that sucks. I'm getting over it quickly at 10/20 and beyond but still, are you ready to play well and drop 2000 in a couple hours?

-DeathDonkey

PokerBob 09-06-2005 02:15 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
your plan sounds reasonable, but as we both know variance can be quite the whore. Bankroll has to enter into the question at some point, but ultimately if you are playing well and can beat the game need to be the deciding factors if you should stay. I wish you the best of luck.

BeerMoney 09-06-2005 02:18 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
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the most important factor is whether you think you can beat the game, and for how much

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I agree with this. I wouldn't set aside a certain number of big bets or so.

As someone who can beat the 5/10, you should be clever enough to determine if you can beat the 10/20 game.

I recommend keeping your eye on a table a night or something like that, and sitting if you find conditions favorable.

I think getting in a trap of thinking "I'm a 10/20 player, or a 5/10 player.." is a mistake. Play where and when the games are good. You have the bankroll to sit at a 10/20 table, and if you lose, you'll know it was because you had a good expectation. So, losing shouldn't be so painful.

Make it a slow transition.

Good luck.

colgin 09-06-2005 02:25 PM

THANKS
 
Good advice from many people. Thanks for the help.

GoblinMason (Craig) 09-06-2005 02:44 PM

Re: A Plan for Taking a Shot at $10/20 6-max
 
Give it a shot. I did the same thing a month ago and I'm still there...

(The trick is to run reeeeally good for your first couple thousand hands. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] That way when you take the 200BB downswing, you'll still be fine.)

-Craig


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