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MP is 35/17/x

LP is 30/10/y


6handed i raise 77 UTG, mp cold calls, lp 3 bets i call 3way.

J7x 2 hearts flop i bet MP raises LP 3 bets i cap both call.

turn is Ks same exact action.

river is a blank. same action but its up to me to cap, call or fold.

so what action do ya like? cap call or fold?

Barron

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MP is 35/17/x

LP is 30/10/y


6handed i raise 77 UTG, mp cold calls, lp 3 bets i call 3way.

J7x 2 hearts flop i bet MP raises LP 3 bets i cap both call.

turn is Ks same exact action.

river is a blank. same action but its up to me to cap, call or fold.

so what action do ya like? cap call or fold?

Barron

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No way i'm folding here, that pot is way to big. If LP flopped jacks or turned Kings, good for him, but I can't find a fold here.

LP's PFR % certainly suggest that he started with a premium hand, however, and normally people with preflop standards like that aren't gonna go nutsy w/ TPTK. So unless he has KJ, i'm guessing your behind here. Hence, I don't cap. I call, and hate it, but I'd it it much worse if I folded and got shown top 2 or bottom set or even a strangly played (on the river) A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

lf

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call or fold.

capping is stupid.

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call or fold.

capping is stupid.

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just seemed to me at the time every option was feasible, looking back by process of elminiation, calling isthe play.

nobody would believe in a million years the hands i got shown.

Barron

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KJs and QQ in that order?

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KJs and QQ in that order?

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what about 75s? thats the nuts isn't it?

Barron

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KJs and QQ in that order?

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what about 75s.

Barron

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maybe they're working together?

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KJs and QQ in that order?

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what about 75s.

Barron

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maybe they're working together?

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that "x" mighta been a 5 giving 75s two pair and the other one mucked so it was worse than 75s

Barron

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KJs and QQ in that order?

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what about 75s.

Barron

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maybe they're working together?

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that "x" mighta been a 5 giving 75s two pair and the other one mucked so it was worse than 75s

Barron

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still with numbers like that, I don't think collusion of is out of the question...that seems pretty fishy.

lf

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KJs and QQ in that order?

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what about 75s.

Barron

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maybe they're working together?

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that "x" mighta been a 5 giving 75s two pair and the other one mucked so it was worse than 75s

Barron

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still with numbers like that, I don't think collusion of is out of the question...that seems pretty fishy.

lf

[/ QUOTE ]if these guys are partners, they are some seriously stupid MFers... dcifr bet/caps folp and turn and they are still pumping in the $$$ for him.

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I suspect a little chicanery is afoot.

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Why is capping stupid? I agree that calling is the play but I do not think that capping is a terrible idea either.

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Why is capping stupid? I agree that calling is the play but I do not think that capping is a terrible idea either.

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Basic hand reading skills. You really think you're hand is that great...that the last guy doesn' thave JJ or KK often enough for it to be bad and you don't mind the guy in the middle calling the 1 bet when he'll make better folds for 2.

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you are beat

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Isn't capping the turn a little out of line? A 10 pfr 3betting preflop, 3betting that flop, and the 3betting the turn against the flop capper....that screams JJ/KK. Putting him on two pair doesn't make sense given his PFR.

call the turn 3bet and check call the river sans 1outer.

-DrG

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ub 80? if so i think it is a cap against a lot of people. aginst half of them i cap against half of them i slow down on the turn.
dave

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I'm not sure why you would cap the turn and then see all three options as feasible when the river blanked.

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ub 80? if so i think it is a cap against a lot of people. aginst half of them i cap against half of them i slow down on the turn.
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u got it.

i cant rmemeber the villians' names but im sure you know them. i slowed down eventually on the river, but man these guys can be retarded....and then turn right aroudn and play well.

Barron