Matasow in jail
 

I just read that Cardplayer interview. He said he spent 6 months in jail for something drug related. Anyone know what he did exactly?

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he picked up a bag of blow for a friend as a favor, he had never dealt before and was only a recreational user....when they offered him immunity if he turned in his dealer he refused, so they gave him 6 months for dealing.

say what you will about him but it takes a lot of courage to have the balls to not be a rat and not take that deal.

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Anybody have more details about the case? How come that wasn't considered entrapment?

entrapment: "...for example, an undercover agent may not recruit a previously law-abiding individual into a drug distribution ring in order to prosecute. Many police operations, especially in the areas of drugs and gambling, raise questions of entrapment, which is available as a defense in a trial."

did matusow even try to use that as a defense?

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This thread can start over now that my new 5-day suspension policy has been implemented.

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Some guy got busted who used yayo, said Mike knew all the big players in town, so a narc befriended Mike and acted buddy buddy with him for many of months, then asked him if he could get some yayo for a mob guy who was in town, Mike said yes, they busted him for trafficking. The case was so airtight, they plea bargained it down from 25 years to 6 months. If he actually fought it hard he probably wouldn't of had to spend anytime in jail.

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...something drug related. Anyone know what he did exactly?...

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drugs

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The case was so airtight, they plea bargained it down from 25 years to 6 months. If he actually fought it hard he probably wouldn't of had to spend anytime in jail.

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I'm confused---the case was airtight, yet they got it down to 6 mos. Yet they could have fought it harder somehow and gotten him down to probation or whatever? Which is it?

Also, what's the basis for your information?

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Some guy got busted who used yayo, said Mike knew all the big players in town, so a narc befriended Mike and acted buddy buddy with him for many of months, then asked him if he could get some yayo for a mob guy who was in town, Mike said yes, they busted him for trafficking. The case was so airtight, they plea bargained it down from 25 years to 6 months. If he actually fought it hard he probably wouldn't of had to spend anytime in jail.

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it's actually spelled llallo

http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_More_You_...mages/logo.jpg

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The case was so airtight, they plea bargained it down from 25 years to 6 months. If he actually fought it hard he probably wouldn't of had to spend anytime in jail.

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I'm confused---the case was airtight, yet they got it down to 6 mos. Yet they could have fought it harder somehow and gotten him down to probation or whatever? Which is it?

Also, what's the basis for your information?

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He was being sacrastic, and there was an article in some vegas paper about it.

Ever heard of google?

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I believe he was being sarcastic about how strong the case was.

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yes and no -

rumor was he was safer spending 6 months in jail then rolling over on the dealer - apparently he was a doozie with a lot of connections to people you don't wanna make unhappy [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] -

that, btw, is total hearsay and totally unsubstantiated -

RB

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Some guy got busted who used yayo, said Mike knew all the big players in town, so a narc befriended Mike and acted buddy buddy with him for many of months, then asked him if he could get some yayo for a mob guy who was in town, Mike said yes, they busted him for trafficking. The case was so airtight, they plea bargained it down from 25 years to 6 months. If he actually fought it hard he probably wouldn't of had to spend anytime in jail.

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it's actually spelled llallo

http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_More_You_...mages/logo.jpg

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no, its yayo as in tony yayo. Ga Ga Ga GG-UNITTTT NITT

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haha ... yeah I was being sarcastic, just thought it was unfair of what they did to him, and how the government handled it. Their war on drugs is BS.

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From what I understand about US drug laws ge fot off easy

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yes and no -

rumor was he was safer spending 6 months in jail then rolling over on the dealer - apparently he was a doozie with a lot of connections to people you don't wanna make unhappy [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] -

that, btw, is total hearsay and totally unsubstantiated -

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6mos is nothing compared to rolling over on ANY cocaine dealer. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Entrapment how?

He was caught with drugs on him. Unless the dealer was an undercover cop (doesn't sound likely, if he was offered immunity), there's no entrapment.

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he recieved an amount of money for an amount of cocaine, even though he was not a drug dealer per se, how the [censored] could this be entrapment?

do some of you just spout whatever legal term pops into your head before you speak?

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Entrapment how?

He was caught with drugs on him. Unless the dealer was an undercover cop (doesn't sound likely, if he was offered immunity), there's no entrapment.

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It's entrapment if the police trick a law abiding citizen into committing a crime. Things such as befriending a person and then asking them to commit a crime as a favor are entrapment. So Mike has to show that he doesn't deal drugs, then he can prove entrapment.

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6mos is nothing compared to rolling over on ANY cocaine dealer. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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this isn't true.. i wouldn't spend 3 days in jail to avoid upsetting your average local coke dealer. coke dealers are not neccesarily violent criminals.

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Even if it was entrapment, which it probably wasn't. Entrapment almost never works as a defense.

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It's entrapment if the police trick a law abiding citizen into committing a crime. Things such as befriending a person and then asking them to commit a crime as a favor are entrapment.

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It is not quite that simple.

First, the idea for committing the crime came from the government agents and not from the person accused of the crime.

- Second, the government agents then persuaded or talked the person into committing the crime. Simply giving him the opportunity to commit the crime is not the same as persuading him to commit the crime.

- And third, the person was not ready and willing to commit the crime before the government agents spoke with him.

On the issue of entrapment the government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant was not entrapped by government agents.

Entrapment

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Some guy got busted who used yayo, said Mike knew all the big players in town, so a narc befriended Mike and acted buddy buddy with him for many of months, then asked him if he could get some yayo for a mob guy who was in town, Mike said yes, they busted him for trafficking. The case was so airtight, they plea bargained it down from 25 years to 6 months. If he actually fought it hard he probably wouldn't of had to spend anytime in jail.

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it's actually spelled llallo

http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_More_You_...mages/logo.jpg

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I have nothing to add to this thread, but its actually spelled "llEllo". Nit. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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The guy twitches and shakes like he's on coke all the time, am I the only one not surprised here?

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he recieved an amount of money for an amount of cocaine, even though he was not a drug dealer per se, how the [censored] could this be entrapment?

do some of you just spout whatever legal term pops into your head before you speak?

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How is it entrapment? Well, if an undercover officer befriends you for over a year and then asks you to get him some coke for the sole purpose of busting you for dealing once you get him the coke, that would seem to be the definition of entrapment. Without the undecover agent initiating the drug deal, there would have been no crime. Of course, given court rulings over the last two decades, entrapment is almost non-existent, but to just dismiss the claim is ignorant.

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he recieved an amount of money for an amount of cocaine, even though he was not a drug dealer per se, how the [censored] could this be entrapment?

do some of you just spout whatever legal term pops into your head before you speak?

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I'm a lawyer, so I hope I can get away with using legal terms. From the press accounts, there's nothing to suggest he would NOT have had a valid entrapment defense, although we don't know everything of course. As a prior poster noted, the fact that he was allowed to plea-bargain an otherwise serious crime down to 6 months is pretty strong evidence that the prosecution felt there would be some serious problems if they took it to trial.