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09-01-2005 06:46 AM

Paradise Million Strategy?
 
This is my 1st televised final table and am looking for advice from others who've been there. How do the cameras, lights and sound guys etc. impact play . Any tips? What should I wear?

More importantly, I have 400k, 1st has 2.7 mil, 10th 34k, about 9 mil in total chips, 12k/24k blinds, 3k antes , 90 minute levels. What strategy do you suggest? Its basically like a satellite, 1 million for 1st and 10k for 2nd-9th. my id at Paradise is Professor77 and this will be played on the 25th of September if you want to watch. I'm not sure when it will be broadcast.

flo 09-01-2005 07:21 AM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
If 2nd - 10th get the same $$$ play for the win. If you play defensivly and outwait a few players you gain nothing and loose chips im comparison to those in front of you.
Maybe that wasn't the answer you were looking for, and i have no clue [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Rosie5 09-01-2005 07:24 AM

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If 2nd - 10th get the same $$$ play for the win. If you play defensivly and outwait a few players you gain nothing and loose chips im comparison to those in front of you.
Maybe that wasn't the answer you were looking for, and i have no clue [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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No I agree with that, I'm no expert on 1 table tournaments but I would think this is the basic strategy

And just to add one thing, when you get knocked out-Rip your shirt off and run around while screaming ' online poker is rigged!'

that last thing is +ev for sure

09-01-2005 09:45 AM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
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This is my 1st televised final table and am looking for advice from others who've been there. How do the cameras, lights and sound guys etc. impact play . Any tips? What should I wear?

More importantly, I have 400k, 1st has 2.7 mil, 10th 34k, about 9 mil in total chips, 12k/24k blinds, 3k antes , 90 minute levels. What strategy do you suggest? Its basically like a satellite, 1 million for 1st and 10k for 2nd-9th. my id at Paradise is Professor77 and this will be played on the 25th of September if you want to watch. I'm not sure when it will be broadcast.

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prepare yourself mentally to gamb0000000l it up b/c that is what you're going to have to do for a shot at first. obviously not stupid sh*t, but you know what i mean. the reason i say "prepare mentally" is because once you are there in the heat of the battle you want to make sure your survival instinct doesn't take over and make you too cautious.

Twitch1977 09-01-2005 10:21 AM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
I have no constructive advice but just wanted to say best of luck.

T

lorinda 09-01-2005 10:46 AM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
Suggest you discuss it through PM messages with those in the thread, or at least don't reply in the thread with what you intend to do.

You may not be the only one reading this.

Lori

phx 09-01-2005 09:20 PM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
wow cant imagine heads up when one guy is getting 1 mil and the other 10k

Pasterbator 09-01-2005 09:25 PM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
Once you get to the table, ask for a chop. Continue doing this every time someone gets out.

I think thats very +EV.

09-01-2005 10:21 PM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
Unfortunately tournament rules say even suggesting a chop is grounds to dq the player. Thanks all! Hey act you played the Masters, what was it like down there, any tips?

cunningham22 09-02-2005 01:32 AM

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What is played on 9/25 and what is played for the TV?

Dynasty 09-02-2005 02:32 AM

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If 2nd - 10th get the same $$$ play for the win. If you play defensivly and outwait a few players you gain nothing and loose chips im comparison to those in front of you.

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prepare yourself mentally to gamb0000000l it up b/c that is what you're going to have to do for a shot at first.

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I believe you need to think and play a level beyond this. The other players are going to be at the gamboooool level, especially early on. So, I think you need to avoid collisions without a premium hand. Instead, be relatively patient and "overplay" your big hands expecting to get action.

09-02-2005 03:43 AM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
The final Table of 10 is played on 9/25 and I assume that is what is televised. There has been no mention of a 6 person tv final table.

benkahuna 09-02-2005 04:41 AM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
Just try to ignore the cameras and not focus on your play. If you think about the cameras and a bunch of incidental irrelevant crap, you're going to cause yourself problems.

Let it be fun and enjoyable, however.

Maybe you could wear a 2+2 shirt?

Congrats and good luck.

snappo 09-02-2005 05:18 AM

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Maybe you could wear a 2+2 shirt?

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that would be a bad thing. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

benkahuna 09-02-2005 05:30 AM

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Depends on whom you ask. You're right though, wish I'dnever said it... Sometimes I forget that while good, I don't really want the whole world reading 2+2 books or this forum.

mscott2374 09-02-2005 07:13 AM

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Even if you told the whole world i doubt many of them would bother to take the time to use the site. The majority of people just don't want to put in the effort

09-02-2005 10:15 AM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
Where do I find a 2+2 shirt or cap?

einbert 09-02-2005 10:21 AM

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1 million for 1st and 10k for 2nd-9th.

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Unfortunately tournament rules say even suggesting a chop is grounds to dq the player.

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Next time don't play in a tournament with an absolutely retarded structure and rules like this.

But enjoy your 10k, I guess. If you had actually entered a tournament with a real structure you'd be making a ton more on average, but hey YOU COULD WIN A MILLION!!!!!!!!!111111111111

einbert 09-02-2005 10:24 AM

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Where do I find a 2+2 shirt or cap?

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Ah yes, the perfect person to represent twoplustwo.

You've made five posts, obviously because you are looking for quick answers to solve your problems without doing any homework for yourself. For some reason you decided to enter a tournament with an absolutely insane structure, and you ask questions like "how should the cameras affect my play?"

Between laziness, lack of foresight and downright stupidity, you are basically the essential twoplustwo posterchild.

Call David and maybe he can root you on personally from the audience.

Jurollo 09-02-2005 12:37 PM

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Where do I find a 2+2 shirt or cap?

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Ah yes, the perfect person to represent twoplustwo.

You've made five posts, obviously because you are looking for quick answers to solve your problems without doing any homework for yourself. For some reason you decided to enter a tournament with an absolutely insane structure, and you ask questions like "how should the cameras affect my play?"

Between laziness, lack of foresight and downright stupidity, you are basically the essential twoplustwo posterchild.

Call David and maybe he can root you on personally from the audience.

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haha.

drewjustdrew 09-02-2005 12:51 PM

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But enjoy your 10k, I guess. If you had actually entered a tournament with a real structure you'd be making a ton more on average

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By not understanding averages , laziness, lack of foresight and downright stupidity, you are basically the essential twoplustwo posterchild.


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MegaBet 09-02-2005 03:02 PM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
Disagree. If you're playing for 1st you have to take risks and build chips. Accept 10th, gamble for 1st.

09-02-2005 03:54 PM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
Ha ha, when your done with my foot massage you can start on a pedicure funny boy. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

OrangeKing 09-02-2005 05:02 PM

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1 million for 1st and 10k for 2nd-9th.

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Unfortunately tournament rules say even suggesting a chop is grounds to dq the player.

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Next time don't play in a tournament with an absolutely retarded structure and rules like this.

But enjoy your 10k, I guess. If you had actually entered a tournament with a real structure you'd be making a ton more on average, but hey YOU COULD WIN A MILLION!!!!!!!!!111111111111

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To be fair - where would you suggest this guy find a freeroll with a better structure than giving 9 players $10k and one player $1 million?

Kyle Stark 09-02-2005 05:36 PM

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I don't have advice on play, but from general observations:

Don't try to do antyhing clever or witty if you aren't a clever or witty person...you don't want to be the next Dan Druff.

Learn how to not care what other people say about you cause if you pull a tuan lee or danny nguyen you might want to be MIA in forums for a while.

Make sure your wife is hot, cause if they show her on TV and she's not RGP will definately let you know and so will Dutch Boyd, especially if she has saggy tits. If she isn't hot, you might want to hire a stand in.

If you have one of the worlds best players at the table, pleeeeaaaaaze don't say antying stupid like "I have a couple tricks up my sleave, or "i know how to play him". No you don't.

Might want to avoid stupid table talk all together...there isn't anything more douchey then some unknown trying to get a tell from phil ivey by asking "so phil do you want me to call?".

Also, the big Dan Druff conspiracy: Watch what you say in the interviews cause it can/will be chopped up to be taken out of context and make you look stupid, however, there are hundreds of people that avoided that but that's Dan's story and he's sticking to it.

And one thing I took from all the WSOP commentary, don't play like you're just "happy to be there". People that have a chance at a big payday are so pumped with just being there, it doesn't hit them until months later how they blew a chance at a big payday and major title.

KramerTM 09-02-2005 05:44 PM

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Where do I find a 2+2 shirt or cap?

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Ah yes, the perfect person to represent twoplustwo.

You've made five posts, obviously because you are looking for quick answers to solve your problems without doing any homework for yourself. For some reason you decided to enter a tournament with an absolutely insane structure, and you ask questions like "how should the cameras affect my play?"

Between laziness, lack of foresight and downright stupidity, you are basically the essential twoplustwo posterchild.

Call David and maybe he can root you on personally from the audience.

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Stupidest response ever. I'd rather see 5 posts from someone than 2624 where even 1 is this moronic.

You had 5 posts too once. Get off your high horse.

KramerTM 09-02-2005 05:47 PM

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Learn how to not care what other people say about you cause if you pull a tuan lee or danny nguyen you might want to be MIA in forums for a while.


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Sorry for the ignorance, but can you explain or link me to something that explains this story?

Kyle Stark 09-02-2005 05:59 PM

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Learn how to not care what other people say about you cause if you pull a tuan lee or danny nguyen you might want to be MIA in forums for a while.


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Sorry for the ignorance, but can you explain or link me to something that explains this story?

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Basically means if you play bad but suck out a lot and win, people in forums are going to be giving you complete hell. They'll do it even if you win with good play but not nearly as much.

Malagant 09-02-2005 06:08 PM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
Also keep in mind, if you win or two wsop bracelets, you are a good player.

If you win 9 you suck.

TomHimself 09-02-2005 07:31 PM

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1 million for 1st and 10k for 2nd-9th.

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Unfortunately tournament rules say even suggesting a chop is grounds to dq the player.

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Next time don't play in a tournament with an absolutely retarded structure and rules like this.

But enjoy your 10k, I guess. If you had actually entered a tournament with a real structure you'd be making a ton more on average, but hey YOU COULD WIN A MILLION!!!!!!!!!111111111111

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To be fair - where would you suggest this guy find a freeroll with a better structure than giving 9 players $10k and one player $1 million?

[/ QUOTE ]doesnt matter if its a freeroll its a horrible structure, and like others have said if i got 2nd because of a bad beat i would kill myself

Rosie5 09-02-2005 09:02 PM

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Disagree. If you're playing for 1st you have to take risks and build chips. Accept 10th, gamble for 1st.

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uh I think you misread my poorly worded reply because I said exactly that [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I REALLY need to stop posting about strategy because what I write is close to indecipherable [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] I tried to write something funny, but wanted to be pertinent by agreeing with someone else and I clearly fumbled in on both attempts [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

your confusion makes me feel worse than if you had posted "die, you trying to be funny idiot"

einbert 09-02-2005 10:36 PM

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Ha ha, when your done with my foot massage you can start on a pedicure funny boy. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Excellent comeback. I have no response that could ever measure up to your level of wit.

einbert 09-02-2005 10:40 PM

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Stupidest response ever. I'd rather see 5 posts from someone than 2624 where even 1 is this moronic.

You had 5 posts too once. Get off your high horse.

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It has very little to do with his post count. It has everything to do with the fact that he is looking for answers without wanting to do any work himself, and besides that he expects us to support him when he clearly just registered.

It would be one thing if he even had 50 posts in strategy forums and then created this thread, but it's obvious that the only purpose of this account was to get help from twoplustwo. This guy has never contributed anything! Yet he expects us to give him a great working strategy for this tournament. The sad thing is that some of you came running to help him. Ridiculous.

I have come to expect people at twoplustwo to not want to think about problems, especially in poker hands. But at least they usually make something of a pathetic attempt to help others out without simply expecting to be spoonfed every detail of information. This guy is different--he's a total child, capable of accomplishing nothing on his own.

09-03-2005 02:21 AM

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Stupidest response ever. I'd rather see 5 posts from someone than 2624 where even 1 is this moronic.

You had 5 posts too once. Get off your high horse.

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It has very little to do with his post count. It has everything to do with the fact that he is looking for answers without wanting to do any work himself, and besides that he expects us to support him when he clearly just registered.

It would be one thing if he even had 50 posts in strategy forums and then created this thread, but it's obvious that the only purpose of this account was to get help from twoplustwo. This guy has never contributed anything! Yet he expects us to give him a great working strategy for this tournament. The sad thing is that some of you came running to help him. Ridiculous.

I have come to expect people at twoplustwo to not want to think about problems, especially in poker hands. But at least they usually make something of a pathetic attempt to help others out without simply expecting to be spoonfed every detail of information. This guy is different--he's a total child, capable of accomplishing nothing on his own.

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Nonetheless you've come across as a jackass. Who's to say he won't contribute later? Berating someone at an online forum (2+2 or any other) is just as bad as berating someone at the poker table. It accomplishes nothing.

einbert 09-03-2005 02:22 AM

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Nonetheless you've come across as a jackass.

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I could care less what you or the collective internet forum community thinks of me.

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Berating someone at an online forum (2+2 or any other) is just as bad as berating someone at the poker table. It accomplishes nothing.

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Wrong. Berating someone at the table makes them leave and frequently would cost me a lot of money if I did it. Berating this guy cost me only a few minutes, and I got some enjoyment out of it so it wasn't a total loss.

TomHimself 09-03-2005 02:33 AM

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Nonetheless you've come across as a jackass.

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I could care less what you or the collective internet forum community thinks of me.

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Berating someone at an online forum (2+2 or any other) is just as bad as berating someone at the poker table. It accomplishes nothing.

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Wrong. Berating someone at the table makes them leave and frequently would cost me a lot of money if I did it. Berating this guy cost me only a few minutes, and I got some enjoyment out of it so it wasn't a total loss.

[/ QUOTE ]owned lol

yvesaint 09-03-2005 02:35 AM

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Gamble it up. Either bust in 7-10 or win the damn thing, because if I busted in 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th, I'd cut off my arms.

RiverTheNuts 09-03-2005 03:50 AM

Re: Paradise Million Strategy?
 
can you let out a primordial scream of "GAMBOOOL" as you call an all in with KJ sooted?

MeanGreenTT 09-03-2005 10:02 AM

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Where do I find a 2+2 shirt or cap?

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Ah yes, the perfect person to represent twoplustwo.

You've made five posts, obviously because you are looking for quick answers to solve your problems without doing any homework for yourself. For some reason you decided to enter a tournament with an absolutely insane structure, and you ask questions like "how should the cameras affect my play?"

Between laziness, lack of foresight and downright stupidity, you are basically the essential twoplustwo posterchild.

Call David and maybe he can root you on personally from the audience.

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DAMN....it was a FUKING FREEROLL...What an ASSHAT!!!!

And I wasn't going for "wit" I reposned to a JACKASS comment with a JACKASS comment.

I guess you're the role model for 2+2....NICE!

09-03-2005 10:56 AM

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consider it done!


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