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Jersey Nick 08-30-2005 05:13 PM

Vegas low limit poll
 
I'm heading to Vegas for a business conference 9/19-21 and staying at the JW Marriott (way the hell off the strip). I'm on my 3rd trip to Sin City, but this is the first time that I won't have friends or family in tow, so I’m planning on spending my free time at the poker tables. I hope to play a few 4-6 hour sessions of low limit (up to 5/10) in Vegas proper. Based a forum search, I've narrowed my selections down to 7 places to play, but I'll probably only have time for 3 of these places based on my schedule. Vote for 3 and tell me if I’ve missed any obvious ones.

Thanks,
JerseyNick

Eder 08-30-2005 08:12 PM

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MGM and its not close. You left out the Alladin but it was worst room I have tried.

08-30-2005 08:22 PM

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MGM, from this list. I'd add the Aladdin also. Nice room and quite fishy.

Photoc 08-30-2005 09:52 PM

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First, Aladdin is the only room on the list spreading 5/10 limit now. Second, dump the Rio and the Wynn from the list. Wynn has only a 4/8 game as their lowest, so I wouldn't count that as a place to play the lower limits. (no 2/4, 3/6 or 5/10). Rio, well, they have been hurting since the end of the WSOP.

Cooling Heels 08-30-2005 10:12 PM

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Can't go wrong with MGM. High tech gadgets, unique room arrangement, great scenery, good drink service, some of the worst post flop play you've ever seen.

If you want to rub elbows with truly lousy pokers players, try the Imperial Palace, but be forewarned it's very low limit, mainly 2/4 and tournaments.

AllVegasPoker.com 08-30-2005 11:35 PM

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If I were visiting Vegas and could only play at three card rooms, I would play at MGM, Bellagio, and Binions (for the historical value).

And for the wild card, as you're leaving Binions, I would stop into El Cortez for a quick session. Nothing beats this place in terms of atmosphere.

Al_Capone_Junior 08-30-2005 11:41 PM

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Of the three choices I picked, MGM is tops. It's just clearly "tops" in most respects, in most categories, for the low limit LIMIT player, and for the 1-2 and 2-5 no limit player.

Now if price of the hotel means something to you, you might choose excalibur. It's right across the street from MGM, and I've always liked excal's games and staff. I have stayed in excal once about four years ago and had no complaints for the price.

Strat ain't exactly the top o' the heap in casinos, but the rooms are probably cheep and clean, and it has a pretty decent little poker room to boot. You'll typically find 2-4, 1-2 no limit, and perhaps a 4-8 there. If don't mind a little ghetto, and you secretly DO like 40oz malt liquors, do the strat.

Aladdin has been making an effort to get 5-10 with a full kill going, and they've even succeeded now and then. I've played it three times so far and I like it, will undoubtedly be a regular player of that game (since it's the only one like it in town).

al

Moneyline 08-31-2005 12:23 AM

Monte Carlo is great for low limit n/t
 
penis

08-31-2005 01:43 AM

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When I went to Ex, I asked them to spread a 4/8 game because i'm not adept at spread limit. They obliged and it was very juicy.

Jersey Nick 08-31-2005 06:44 AM

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First, Aladdin is the only room on the list spreading 5/10 limit now. Second, dump the Rio and the Wynn from the list. Wynn has only a 4/8 game as their lowest, so I wouldn't count that as a place to play the lower limits. (no 2/4, 3/6 or 5/10). Rio, well, they have been hurting since the end of the WSOP.

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Photoc: Thanks to you and the others for the Aladdin suggestion. I saw it as an editor's choice on allvegaspoker but somehow left it out of the poll. The Wynn 4/8 is appealing to me because it is the lowest game that they spread and it's been suggested around here that it is filled with inexperienced players. Is this flawed thinking?

Jersey Nick 08-31-2005 06:55 AM

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If I were visiting Vegas and could only play at three card rooms, I would play at MGM, Bellagio, and Binions (for the historical value).

And for the wild card, as you're leaving Binions, I would stop into El Cortez for a quick session. Nothing beats this place in terms of atmosphere.

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AVP: I dig your site. I considered the Bellagio, but I haven't seen much in the way of postive comments about their low limit games. I played at Binion's on my last visit, so I left it off the list this time.
El Cortez is a definite possibility, but more for their $2 passline craps than for poker (thanks for the tip ACJ).

Jersey Nick 08-31-2005 07:01 AM

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Of the three choices I picked, MGM is tops. It's just clearly "tops" in most respects, in most categories, for the low limit LIMIT player, and for the 1-2 and 2-5 no limit player.

Now if price of the hotel means something to you, you might choose excalibur. It's right across the street from MGM, and I've always liked excal's games and staff. I have stayed in excal once about four years ago and had no complaints for the price.

Strat ain't exactly the top o' the heap in casinos, but the rooms are probably cheep and clean, and it has a pretty decent little poker room to boot. You'll typically find 2-4, 1-2 no limit, and perhaps a 4-8 there. If don't mind a little ghetto, and you secretly DO like 40oz malt liquors, do the strat.

Aladdin has been making an effort to get 5-10 with a full kill going, and they've even succeeded now and then. I've played it three times so far and I like it, will undoubtedly be a regular player of that game (since it's the only one like it in town).

al

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Thanks, Al. I was leaning toward the Strat based on some comments you and Photoc made in earlier posts and on allvegaspoker, but it sounds like I need to bump it down the list.

In honor of you, I plan to kick all these games squarely in the nuts.

08-31-2005 07:04 AM

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anyone play at the orleans it has 39 tables with a vast spread of games Ive never been but wanna check it out next visit

Jersey Nick 08-31-2005 07:07 AM

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When I went to Ex, I asked them to spread a 4/8 game because i'm not adept at spread limit. They obliged and it was very juicy.

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The Ex's 2/6 was my first B&M experience years ago. My home game used to be a .5/3 spread, so the game came pretty naturally to me. Nice to hear that they were obliging with your request.

08-31-2005 08:08 AM

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anyone play at the orleans it has 39 tables with a vast spread of games Ive never been but wanna check it out next visit

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The 4/8 with 1/2 blinds and a half kill was a pretty fishy game even with some locals playing it was easily beatable.

GuyOnTilt 08-31-2005 08:11 AM

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Everybody seems to like the MGM, but I can't [censored] stand any place with that [censored] [censored] around the edge of the table to stack your chips on instead of felt. It seriously pisses me off.

GoT

Howard Burroughs 08-31-2005 08:53 AM

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"Orleans?"

I play the Orleans about three times a week. I always find the games very soft. YMMV.


Tonight, I'm giving GVR a second look.


Hilton opens their new cardroom on Friday. I took a look around (Hilton poker room) Monday night. Looks like 10 tables (if I was sober enough to count at that hour). They say they plan to spread 10-20 with a 1/2 kill (ala Orleans).




FWIW, I've been to the Strat's new room a few times and I don't believe it's one of the better run rooms in town, from what I saw on each visit anyway. I would even suggest the Tuscany $2-4 or El Cortez $1-3 ($1-6 on the end) over the Strat.


Of the ones on OP's list, I like MGM, Wynn and Trashy Castle (Excalibur) the best but YMMV.


Best of Luck

Howard

Luv2DriveTT 08-31-2005 12:46 PM

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Everybody seems to like the MGM, but I can't [censored] stand any place with that [censored] [censored] around the edge of the table to stack your chips on instead of felt. It seriously pisses me off.


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We were talking about that just last night. The dealers suck, the tables really suck (I don't like racetracks), and the floor staff is clueless. BUT the 4/8 1/2 kill game is super soft (at least the one I played in while killing time). Like the softest game ever, so passive...

On the opposite side of the opinion I was told most new players prefer the racetrack because its easier for them to stack their chips than on felt. Its possible, I don't know if it really makes that much of a difference however.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Jersey Nick 08-31-2005 01:22 PM

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Happy Birthday, TT.

The only problem I would have with the racetrack might be the additional noise from any Antonio-wannabes doing chip tricks on a hard surface.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39...k/MGMTable.jpg

As for dealers, my B&M play is mostly at Foxwoods, so the MGM dealers may shine by comparison.

Al_Capone_Junior 08-31-2005 01:27 PM

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In honor of you, I plan to kick all these games squarely in the nuts.


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That's the spirit! Kick 'em once for me too.

al

Argus 08-31-2005 01:50 PM

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Like everyone else, I can recommend the MGM. However I didn't like that you can't be on the list for one game while playing another. So if 2-5NL is full, don't think of playing 4-8 while you wait. Or if you want a 10-20 game but there isn't enough action yet, again you can't play something else while you wait. However the competition is weak, the racetrack isn't as bad as everyone says, and the waitresses are decently quick and sometimes nice looking. I've seen worse dealers, but I've definitely seen better ones too.

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The Wynn 4/8 is appealing to me because it is the lowest game that they spread and it's been suggested around here that it is filled with inexperienced players. Is this flawed thinking?

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I've only played about 25 hours or so at the Wynn, but I think this argument holds a lot of weight. I found the 4/8 games there to be exemplary, though the 9-handed play makes opponents' looser play slightly more correct. Not correct enough to worry about though; this game is again easily beatable. The waitresses are faster and better looking here, and the bar is better. The dealers are also better, and I'd recommend the Wynn if you specifically want to play 4/8.

goofball 08-31-2005 01:51 PM

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Everybody seems to like the MGM, but I can't [censored] stand any place with that [censored] [censored] around the edge of the table to stack your chips on instead of felt. It seriously pisses me off.

GoT

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The thing about the MGM, is they have free fat tire. That's right.

Free. Fat. Tire.

no really, it's true.

Jersey Nick 08-31-2005 02:03 PM

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Everybody seems to like the MGM, but I can't [censored] stand any place with that [censored] [censored] around the edge of the table to stack your chips on instead of felt. It seriously pisses me off.

GoT

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The thing about the MGM, is they have free fat tire. That's right.

Free. Fat. Tire.

no really, it's true.

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Haven't tried it yet, but their copy writers have me drooling - and I'm usually a whiskey guy.

peterchi 08-31-2005 02:10 PM

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The thing about the MGM, is they have free fat tire. That's right.

Free. Fat. Tire.

no really, it's true.

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Serious? Dang I wish I had known this when I was there. I am a fan, and I don't even like most Ambers in general.

08-31-2005 02:44 PM

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The thing about the MGM, is they have free fat tire. That's right.

Free. Fat. Tire.

no really, it's true.

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PLUS free Guiness and Newcastle! Definitely the best beer selection of any cardroom I know of. Also a ridiculous number of fishy players, the place is awesome for anything up to 4-8 kill or 2-5NL.

Also, the dealers there are clearly awesome (seeing as I am one). lol...

kleos 08-31-2005 02:57 PM

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ale sucks, this one is no exception.

GuyOnTilt 08-31-2005 04:06 PM

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Everybody seems to like the MGM, but I can't [censored] stand any place with that [censored] [censored] around the edge of the table to stack your chips on instead of felt. It seriously pisses me off.

GoT

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The thing about the MGM, is they have free fat tire. That's right.

Free. Fat. Tire.

no really, it's true.

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Dude. Drinks are free everywhere in LV.

GoT

GuyOnTilt 08-31-2005 04:07 PM

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ale sucks, this one is no exception.

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You suck and you're no exception.

GoT

private joker 08-31-2005 05:10 PM

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The Bellagio 4/8 is full of retards. I'd play there &amp; the MGM, which also has a donkish 4/8. I only played 8/16 at the Wynn, but it's such a nice room that you should play there. Best chairs/chips in town.

DeepCroak 08-31-2005 08:03 PM

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I'm surprised no one in this thread has mentioned the Mirage for 3/6. It's been very very good to me...

Eder 08-31-2005 09:13 PM

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The thing about the MGM, is they have free fat tire. That's right.

Free. Fat. Tire.

no really, it's true.

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PLUS free Guiness and Newcastle! Definitely the best beer selection of any cardroom I know of. Also a ridiculous number of fishy players, the place is awesome for anything up to 4-8 kill or 2-5NL.

Also, the dealers there are clearly awesome (seeing as I am one). lol...

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Whats your name on your tag? One guy there was so entertaining I tipped him every 3rd hand or so even though I was contantly folding...

Also cutest dealer is at MGM...Sharon Stone look alike that actually has entertaining personality.

lucas9000 08-31-2005 09:39 PM

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mirage should be included, if for no other reason than to play a down with swede dealing. that guy rules.

JJ97 08-31-2005 11:28 PM

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My two choices would be:
- MGM --&gt; Great room, soft games, good times, esp if you have friends that aren't good players. They can play the 2-4 game and feel comfortable there.
- Wynn --&gt; I also like that the 4-8 game is the lowest they spread. I think it makes the 4-8 and 8-16 play more like lower limit games. Awesome room, very classy and good service.

Mirage, Bellagio and some others all have some benefits, but you could really just go to these two and have a great time.

Just my thoughts...

09-01-2005 03:50 AM

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Hey, my name is Aaron. I work graveyard and am probably the youngest dealer there by a decent margin. Say hi if you're in there.

private joker 09-01-2005 05:42 AM

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Also, the dealers there are clearly awesome (seeing as I am one). lol...

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As long as you weren't the prick who cost me a 25BB pot Sunday night by dealing the turn card before the flop action finished.

I'm still steaming from that guy. He didn't even apologize.

Oh, and also as long as you weren't the other guy who pushed the pot to J9 on a board that read AJ933 when the opponent held A7. Both of those dealers were quite bad.

09-01-2005 07:59 AM

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I was in the US last week and stopped over in Vegas for a couple of nights. Hit the Aladdin on the way over and then MGM on the way back.

I was trying to make sure I was sleepy for the flight back to London so stayed up late at the MGM. You wouldn't believe the play there late at night. After a few hours the drunks started rolling up and a couple of us who had been sitting at the limit tables just smiled to one another and cleaned up for a few hours.

Would have been nice to have joined this place beforehand to get some advice on where to go but I didn't get around to it. Glad I picked a couple of okay venues (well, the girl who fixed me up with decent room rates picked me okay hotels anyway). Really want to get back there and try out a few other places.

mrbaseball 09-01-2005 08:47 AM

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Aladdin is the only room on the list spreading 5/10 limit now

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This is nice to know! I'm going to be staying at the Aladdin in a couple of weeks. I wasn't planning on playing much there other than a morning tourney or two giving most of my play to MGM or across the street at Bellagio with Wynn and Mirage in the mix. I usually stay at the Mirage but I didn't make these arrangments and a good deal was gotten. Maybe I'll be playing a little more there than I had planned?

Jersey Nick 09-01-2005 09:02 AM

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The Bellagio 4/8 is full of retards.

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This is an excellent reason to play there - I'll feel right at home. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Thank you Private Joker.

09-01-2005 09:10 AM

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MGM also has a daily tourney at 11 (register at 9) for 65.00 usually about 60 entries abt 10 to 15 rebuys (1st hr only). This tourney is a must if you have any remote poker skills. They do not have 5/10 limit, only 4/8 or sometimes 6/12 (1/2 kill). They are very soft games typically.

Jersey Nick 09-01-2005 09:15 AM

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mirage should be included, if for no other reason than to play a down with swede dealing. that guy rules.

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Duly noted. Is swede his badge or 2+2 handle?


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