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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

Button ($176.87)
SB ($83.23)
BB ($116.30)
UTG ($50.40)
UTG+1 ($104.70)
UTG+2 ($49)
Hero ($105.60)
MP2 ($189.30)
MP3 ($101.05)
CO ($38.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 4 folds, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets $3, Hero raises to $9, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $6.

Turn: ($22) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero....?

Hand 2

Villian is 16/6. Quite aggro post-flop and seems to be a decent to good player.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 ($176.87)
MP1 ($83.23)
MP2 ($116.30)
MP3 ($50.40)
CO ($104.70)
Button ($49)
Hero ($105.60)
BB ($189.30)
UTG ($101.05)
UTG+1 ($38.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG limps, Hero (poster) completes. BB checks

Flop: ($2.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $2.5,BB folds, UTG raises to $6, Hero calls $3.50.

Turn: ($8.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero....?

hand 1
bet 20, there are too many draws your opponent could have to give a free card.

hand 2
check on the turn hopefully you will induce a bet from a one or two pair hand then plan to value bet the river for half pot.

Hand 1:

Bet pot, fold to a raise.

Hand 2:

Bet about 1/2 pot, fold to a raise. Value bet any non diamond river.

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Hand 2:

Bet about 1/2 pot, fold to a raise. Value bet any non diamond river.

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I am not folding to a raise on hand 2. He is very unlikely to be on a flopped flush here.

Meh, missed the sentence about your read on the guy. Sorry about that. I still dont like checking here to induce a bluff unless you are sure he will bet. So probably about a 2/3 pot bet on turn, and again, value bet any non-diamond river.

Doesn't a diamond river give him the nut flush?

hand 1
preflop-goot.
flop-nice reraise with the draws out there. Another line for consideration is the smooth call and turn lead (if non draw completing card). This line may induce more to follow into the turn and when it bricks a nice reraise or bet picks up a profitable pot and doesn't lose a-j, a-q which your current line might persudade them to drop their hand.

turn- as played, bet 18-21. I'd push a reraise b/c no one sane calls on the gutshot (at this level) and the flush didn't get there.

Hand 2
this ones more interesting
You can lead the turn but that might persuade UTG who liked his hand that you really have the goods and he might fold. I like a check-raise or check call to river bet. This line lets utg bet his hand that he is confident into your straight. Hell i might even reraise/push if we're so confident that he does NOT have the flush.

edit:i misread and thought that hero had K_J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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Doesn't a diamond river give him the nut flush?

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Ok I need to go home. I am a complete moron, somehow I saw his 2 "red cards" as hearts. Ignore everything I said, I am clearly either drunk or on my deathbed right now.

Whats wrong with checking? It looks like we are on the flush draw which we are but we also have the nut straight. A free card cant really hurt either as the villain is unlikely to have a set with no raise preflop.

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Whats wrong with checking? It looks like we are on the flush draw which we are but we also have the nut straight. A free card cant really hurt either as the villain is unlikely to have a set with no raise preflop.

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Villian might have a set, looking to limp-raise pre-flop. However, i would think he'd bet with a set on the turn if checekd to.

Hand 1 - I'd bet 2/3 pot

Hand 2 - Agree, flopping flush would be rare so I'd lean towards leading the turn....could you check call here?

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could you check call here?

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If I am checking, I am going for a check-raise.

what hand is a good player calling a check raise with that you beat?

Hand 1 - I bet 15, and proceed to put money in the pot. 55 is the only hand i see you're behind. (Except limped aces, which I think you can't be in fear of). 55 doesn't lead at this pot. He clearly likes his hand and you have to like yours, so keep betting for value with enough to have a draw make a mistake.

Hand 2 I like checking here. I can't see what flush hand he would limp utg with. So that means he either has set/2 pair or air. A bet lets the bluff fold easy and the set/2pair maybe get away. Check and see what he does.

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what hand is a good player calling a check raise with that you beat?

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What hands is a good player calling a lead with on the turn that I beat?

yeah, it's a check-raise for sure. It looks funny and it's the best way to win villian stack. As i said in my post, it's impossible to put villian on the flush. A 16/6 villian doesn't limp TJs utg.

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What hands is a good player calling a lead with on the turn that I beat?

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that is why i suggest check-calling and leading the river chief.

Hand 2 - since I read this hand I have had four villan hands in my head, 99, j [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], AQo, and KxJ [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Now, what would UTG villain 16/6 play? If that were me, I would limp AQo, might fold j [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]preflop and would be 50/50 on raising 99. WOuld he play KxJ [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]? I doubt it from UTG but let's leave it in the range.

If hero checkraises, j [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]is definately calling.

Would AQo call here? I would lay this to a big raise

Tougher to lay the set of 9's

Why would j [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]raise the flop here? Really that scared of 1 card?

Given that I think he does NOT have the flush, I'd check here (call if reasonably bet to) and lead any non-board pairing river for 3/4 pot.

Bet $15 in both hands. Just kidding. $6-8 sounds better in the second hand.

Thanks everyone.

Hand 1 I bet $12, he made a big re-raise to which I puked and folded.

Hand 2

I whiffed a check-raise on turn. He called a VB on the river w/ As Ts.

I would probably call in hand 1.