Wrong player declared the winner?
 

Man, I am upset. I wonder if this has happened to anyone else. I had an A high club flush and was heads up. I knew I had the nut flush. The pot was $66.00. At showdown, the other player won with an A high flush. No way, since there were four clubs on the table. This was at pacific poker. I don't usually play there, but have an account there. I have written tech support, but was wondering if this is common. It seriously ruined my evening.

THanks

Re: Wrong player declared the winner?
 

your post msakes no sense.

you both had the ace of clubs?

what does 4 clubs on the board have anything to do with it and why does that make it not possible to have a better flush?


I'm not kidding.
I can't figure out what you are saying at all.

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I had the A of clubs. I am upset because I didn't win the pot. The software said the other player was the winner, but no way we both could have had the A of clubs. I was the winner and lost out on $66.
THanks

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I had the A of clubs. I am upset because I didn't win the pot. The software said the other player was the winner, but no way we both could have had the A of clubs. I was the winner and lost out on $66.
THanks

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Doesn't Pacific Poker store video files of all hands played on your account? Make a link to this... I'm somewhat skeptical.

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Maybe you had the ace of spades and misread your hand?

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Just as a guess, was the ace of clubs on the board? If it was in your hand, then you obviously have the nuts.

If the situation was with the board having 4 clubs including the ace, your opponent wins as long as they have a higher club in the hole than you do.

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Just as a guess, was the ace of clubs on the board? If it was in your hand, then you obviously have the nuts.

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unless he lost to a straight-flush (or mis-read his hand as was also mentioned)

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Pacific Poker has an option where you can look at your recent hand histories. Look it up and find out where you made your mistake.

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with 4 to a flush on the board maybe there is also a possibility of the other guy hitting a straight flush to beat you?

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Just as a guess, was the ace of clubs on the board? If it was in your hand, then you obviously have the nuts.

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unless he lost to a straight-flush (or mis-read his hand as was also mentioned)

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The other player can't have an ace high straight flush. The OP mentioned the other player had an ace high flush.

Of course, misreading the hand is a possibility.

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Just as a guess, was the ace of clubs on the board? If it was in your hand, then you obviously have the nuts.

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unless he lost to a straight-flush (or mis-read his hand as was also mentioned)

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The other player can't have an ace high straight flush. The OP mentioned the other player had an ace high flush.

Of course, misreading the hand is likely.

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fyp

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I admit that I may be wrong. I will try again to find the hand replay, but I couldn't find it before. I am convinced I had the A of clubs and the other guy won with a flush A high. The A was in my hand, but I will admit I had a senior moment if I can see the replay. That would be a hell of a misread.

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I'm guessing MicroBob is correct. He had a straight-flush...quite possible with four on the board.

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i think you need to leave the table to access the hand-replayer.


i think it only keeps your last 20 hands...so if you've been playing all this time then it may already be gone (unless it's changed...which is possible)

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Wait just a second. I read somewhere that the winner's hand is always revealed. Why is he guessing what the other guy had?

Re: Wrong player declared the winner?
 

oh yeah.

I think a couple years ago I could have SWORN that Pacific gave the pot to my opponent when I should have gotten it.

By the time I figured out how to use the hand-replayer though it was gone so I couldn't see what happened.

GrannyMae confirmed that it was perhaps possible.
Of course, I also conceded that it was probably just my own error.
The showdowns and pot-shoves happen fairly quickly on that site so it's kind of hard to see what's going on.


On Pacific I don't think it's 100% impossible for this to have happened.
but I do think it's more likely that the player had the Ace of Spades and King of Clubs but somehow got them mixed-up in his head.

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I was so amazed that the chips went to the other player, then the hand was gone. All I had was the dealer chat. It happened too fast. If they only hold the last 20 hands in replay, it is too late. Maybe I made a mistake, maybe not. At least it didn't break me.

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were u playing omaha??

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No, hold 'em

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Boy, do I feel like a dummy. I found the replay and the A was on the table. My opponent had a higher club kicker. I would have probably played it the same in any case. THanks for the feedback, all.

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DOn't sweat it, it happens to the best of us. Whenever I mis-read a hand I figure its time to stop playing for a while.

Stu

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The card faces on Pacific are horrible. The spades and clubs look so much alike, particularly if your screen is at 1600x1200. Of course, I don't know why I should expect the card faces to be any better than the rest of the software. The four-color cards available at Chip Litre's Poker Mods are an enormous improvement for Pacific.