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HopeydaFish 08-29-2005 06:40 PM

The art of retouching
 
Everyone knows that photos in Playboy, Maxim, etc... are retouched, but this site shows the dramatic differences between the before and after shots.

Some of the women are pretty nasty looking in the before shots...
Before and after

miajag81 08-29-2005 06:45 PM

Re: The art of retouching
 
This stuff pisses me off. No wonder so many perfectly normal women hate the way they look.

jokerthief 08-29-2005 06:46 PM

Re: The art of retouching
 
Vivica Fox looks way different untouched.

DemonDeac 08-29-2005 06:51 PM

Re: The art of retouching
 
yea its pretty nuts. one girl from wake posed in the girls of the ACC playboy and she looked pretty good. the only problem being she had a tad bit of an acne problem and looked like she had been stabbed in the face with a pitchfork

poker-penguin 08-29-2005 06:53 PM

Re: The art of retouching
 
Holy crap, that guy adds at least a full point to most of the women on that page.

rusty JEDI 08-29-2005 06:56 PM

Re: The art of retouching
 
Only black girls get retouched?

rJ

Dominic 08-29-2005 07:08 PM

Re: The art of retouching
 
this is nothing....some of these women are well-known and cannot be changed too dreatically without someone calling "foul."

My friend Dave is a fashion photog. and I have seen him in action on photoshop - changing a girl's eyes with someone elses, giving a girl smoother skin, bigger tits, no cellulite, etc....it's amazing.

When he worked for Playboy, he got into a huge argument with them over a certain Playmate - Nicole Lenz. She's a very pretty girl but she happens to have a lot of freckles - all over her face and body. Nothing wrong with that for most guys,right? Well,when David saw what the Playboy retouchers did, he threw a fit and vowed to never work for them again.

Nicole was completely retouched so that it looked like she had no freckles.

before (NSFW) it's hard to find a photo that isn't retouched of her, but she is covered in freckles!
after (NSFW)

mslif 08-29-2005 07:31 PM

Re: The art of retouching
 
I am glad you made that comment and thank you.
Women are constantly being compared to those so called "perfect women" you see in magazines which is completely absurd. Men need to get their heads out their asses and realize that the majority of women in magazines are fake.

Al P 08-29-2005 07:39 PM

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It's not even that hard. Three mins in photoshop and viola.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5913/td12hb.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/35/td26pe.jpg

08-29-2005 07:44 PM

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Vivica Fox looks way different untouched.

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Keep in mind this is the guy who is doing the retouching's website so I'm sure he is going to make the difference look as dramatic as possible. Its like any other before and after the before is meant to look as bad as possible and the after meant to look as night as possible.

HopeydaFish 08-29-2005 07:45 PM

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It's not even that hard. Three mins in photoshop and viola.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5913/td12hb.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/35/td26pe.jpg

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That's so hot.

gorie 08-29-2005 07:53 PM

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i posted this once before in some thread about the playboy centerfolds. after noticing how different the old centerfolds looked compared to todays standards (plastic looking).
i was bored and curious to get an idea of what this 1960s centerfold would look like if retouched by todays standards so i played around in photoshop (of course my retouching sucks but you get the point [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

original:
http://www.kingofthebop.com/centerfo...Gale_Olson.jpg
new:
http://www.kingofthebop.com/centerfo..._OlsonNEW2.jpg

but, i do understand retouching and to me that's just expected in a professional photograph. i just think it's annoying to see half of womens bodys chopped off as often as i seem to, knowing most people think that is how women should look.

YourFoxyGrandma 08-29-2005 07:54 PM

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That is effing mindblowing. Thank you for this.

Phoenix1010 08-29-2005 07:57 PM

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This stuff pisses me off. No wonder so many perfectly normal women hate the way they look.

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poker-penguin 08-29-2005 07:58 PM

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You forgot to make her boobs bigger.

gorie 08-29-2005 07:59 PM

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You forgot to make her boobs bigger.

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i rounded them out a bit more , but yeah not big enough [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

also should have plumped up her butt a bit more, that seems to be popular in the link above!!

08-29-2005 08:02 PM

Re: The art of retouching
 
This is botherson in portrait photography, but it is unfortunately here to stay. People are obsessed with perfection and marketing firms know how to sell to them.

The problem for me is when this practice overflows into photo journalism, as it did with the commuter train bombing a while back in Madrid. There was a very popular photo that most outlets ran as their cover, however, it had body parts photoshoped out to 'sterilize it' for public consumption, as if tradegy of this or any other kind could ever be sterilzed.

News is news and if an image is too graphic to be shown, then it should not be shown. Period. Unfortunately, just as we see in todays portrait photography...marketing always wins.

poker-penguin 08-29-2005 08:07 PM

Re: The art of retouching
 
I like big butts and I cannot lie, you otha brothas can't deny...

Ahem.

Her boobs actually look smaller in the second photo. This is absolute proof that gorie is a girl.

miajag81 08-29-2005 08:35 PM

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I am glad you made that comment and thank you.
Women are constantly being compared to those so called "perfect women" you see in magazines which is completely absurd. Men need to get their heads out their asses and realize that the majority of women in magazines are fake.

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Women are just as guilty of this.

mslif 08-29-2005 08:40 PM

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I am glad you made that comment and thank you.
Women are constantly being compared to those so called "perfect women" you see in magazines which is completely absurd. Men need to get their heads out their asses and realize that the majority of women in magazines are fake.

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Women are just as guilty of this.

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gorie 08-29-2005 08:47 PM

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btw none of this is surprising to me at all since i work in a professional photography lab and see retouched/unretouched photos every day. i'm sure most people here have had family or senior high school portraits taken with standard retouching done. of course probably not as overdone as the link above, but still. i mean really, who wants to spend hundreds of dollars on a portrait of themselves only to see wrinkles, bags, blemishes, etc ? people want to look nice.

Sponger15SB 08-29-2005 08:54 PM

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I think its funny that every girl has a bigger ass.

miajag81 08-29-2005 09:03 PM

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I am glad you made that comment and thank you.
Women are constantly being compared to those so called "perfect women" you see in magazines which is completely absurd. Men need to get their heads out their asses and realize that the majority of women in magazines are fake.

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Women are just as guilty of this.

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Women are just as likely, if not more so, as men to accept the fake, airbrushed versions of women in magazines as the standard of what a woman should look like.

mslif 08-29-2005 09:12 PM

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I am glad you made that comment and thank you.
Women are constantly being compared to those so called "perfect women" you see in magazines which is completely absurd. Men need to get their heads out their asses and realize that the majority of women in magazines are fake.

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Women are just as guilty of this.

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Women are just as likely, if not more so, as men to accept the fake, airbrushed versions of women in magazines as the standard of what a woman should look like.

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I disagree. Women are bombarded with these fake images of artificially enhanced models which have become the standard of most men's expectations. Women want to look like that just because they are being compared to them.

Patrick del Poker Grande 08-29-2005 09:15 PM

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I am glad you made that comment and thank you.
Women are constantly being compared to those so called "perfect women" you see in magazines which is completely absurd. Men need to get their heads out their asses and realize that the majority of women in magazines are fake.

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Women are just as guilty of this.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Women are just as likely, if not more so, as men to accept the fake, airbrushed versions of women in magazines as the standard of what a woman should look like.

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I disagree. Women are bombarded with these fake images of artificially enhanced models which have become the standard of most men's expectations. Women want to look like that just because they are being compared to them.

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Well [censored]! Get on a treadmill every once in a while!

mslif 08-29-2005 09:21 PM

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ouch [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

08-29-2005 09:22 PM

Re: The art of retouching
 
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I am glad you made that comment and thank you.
Women are constantly being compared to those so called "perfect women" you see in magazines which is completely absurd. Men need to get their heads out their asses and realize that the majority of women in magazines are fake.

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Women are just as guilty of this.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Women are just as likely, if not more so, as men to accept the fake, airbrushed versions of women in magazines as the standard of what a woman should look like.

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I disagree. Women are bombarded with these fake images of artificially enhanced models which have become the standard of most men's expectations. Women want to look like that just because they are being compared to them.

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Well [censored]! Get on a treadmill every once in a while!

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Do treadmills make you look airbrushed?

Dave G. 08-29-2005 09:34 PM

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Most men realise that even if the supermodels really do look like that, their chance of meeting and scoring with them is not very high. They also understand that real women just aren't made that way.

Now boys will certainly compare you pound for pound, but they don't know any better. They haven't been with a real woman before.

So while the retouching is pretty amazing and can go over the top, it's all about marketing, and a secure woman (does one exist?) would not feel threatened by it, unless she prefers going out with boys rather than men.

My sister is a model, so I've known about photo retouching and all that. A lot of the shots she does go untouched, but there were a few where retouching improved the photo significantly, which makes it more marketable.

Anyway, girls who spend large amounts of time in the morning putting on makeup are doing their own "retouching" every day. It's pretty close to the same thing. If one is okay, I don't see the problem with the other. Everyone wants to look better.

jakethebake 08-30-2005 08:17 AM

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original:
http://www.kingofthebop.com/centerfo...Gale_Olson.jpg
new:
http://www.kingofthebop.com/centerfo..._OlsonNEW2.jpg


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What does it say if I prefer the original?

twang 08-30-2005 10:12 AM

Re: The art of retouching
 
Funny thread. Please, could someone post some good retouching-guides. I'm to lazy to google.

poker-penguin 08-30-2005 10:59 AM

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It says gorie's a lousy photoshopper [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

That and you have a fairly realistic idea what women look like in real life.

Jesus H Christ I'm especially retarted this morning.

spamuell 08-30-2005 10:59 AM

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It says peachy's a lousy photoshopper [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Oh no you didn't!

InchoateHand 08-30-2005 11:06 AM

Re: The art of retouching
 
Yeah, I hate the "gold sheen" they give to black chicks, who looked perfectly hot in the original and very odd in the touched.

08-30-2005 11:16 AM

Re: The art of retouching
 
I've got a great pic of me and my bro in law, semi-profesionally done to make us both look like chip-and-dale dancers

imported_The Vibesman 08-30-2005 11:21 AM

Re: The art of retouching
 
Soooo not necessary. These women are fine. I hate these airbrushed photos, the skin doesn't even look real.

I thought it was funny, how they added a little highlight and color to the dog in one.

gorie 08-30-2005 01:12 PM

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What does it say if I prefer the original?

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i don't know, i didn't say one is better than the other, i was just trying to show the difference. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
plus yeah i suck at retouching.

actually i'm sure the original has some type of retouching done to it as well. negative retouching has been around a long time. i wonder when in time they started cutting women in half though.

BillNye 08-30-2005 01:31 PM

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original:
http://www.kingofthebop.com/centerfo...Gale_Olson.jpg
new:
http://www.kingofthebop.com/centerfo..._OlsonNEW2.jpg


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What does it say if I prefer the original?

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http://www.frishphoto.com/Images/Ports/bil_nye.jpg

BradleyT 08-30-2005 01:40 PM

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She's got some big tits for 13.

1800GAMBLER 08-30-2005 01:50 PM

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original:
http://www.kingofthebop.com/centerfo...Gale_Olson.jpg
new:
http://www.kingofthebop.com/centerfo..._OlsonNEW2.jpg


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What does it say if I prefer the original?

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That you aren't a pedophile.

offTopic 08-30-2005 02:28 PM

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I've got a great pic of me and my bro in law, semi-profesionally done to make us both look like chip-and-dale dancers

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http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y15...2/chipdale.jpg

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]


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