what to do with SUPER tight SUPER passive tables?
 

playing at .5/1 tables and i've never seen anything this tight and passive. 1-2 people to the flop (if that) im lucky to have 1 person call if i raise preflop, and every table i've gone too has been like this. im puzzled.

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Find a new table.

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every table i've gone too has been like this. im puzzled.

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meaning like EVERY .5/1 table on paradise

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thanks the 2nd and 3rd reply of that were SUPER helpful, i REALLY REALLY appreciate it!

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What kind of answer were you looking for?

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so if the choice is between playing at a tight passive table and not playing, you choose not playing?

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so if the choice is between playing at a tight passive table and not playing, you choose not playing?

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You can't find another table?

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Well, if those tables are -EV for you, then yes, don't play unless you don't mind getting an education.

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tight passive tables are not profitable (or only marginally so, since all pots are small, and the bulk of your winnings will probably come from picking up pots nobody else wants). you should find a new table, or play during better hours, or at least find 1 or 2 good fish and follow them around snagging a seat for position.

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Where are you playing? I've spent the last 5 weeks in the .50/1.00 beginner's tables at partypoker, I can easily find tables with a vp$ip of 45%+ there.

Unfortunately, I'm going to be kicked out of the garden of eden as of day 45...

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I guarantee if you started raising every pot you'd create a little more action.

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Or... go to another site until the bonus whores at paradise up and leave. They just recently came up with a bonus that a few are jumping on.

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excuse my "not playing party yet ignorance" but how do they define a beginners table at party

or to ask the question another way, whats to stop the sharks just playing and crushing the beginner tables?

from your post Im assuming there is some sort of restriction relating to first real money deposit...

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if the tables are that tight, then raise every hand and pick up the blinds. you only need to make around 1.5 - 2bb/100.

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excuse my "not playing party yet ignorance" but how do they define a beginners table at party

or to ask the question another way, whats to stop the sharks just playing and crushing the beginner tables?

from your post Im assuming there is some sort of restriction relating to first real money deposit...

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Partypoker has beginners tables, .50/1.00, 1/2, 2/4, and 3/6, which you are only allowed to play at during the 45 days after you make your first deposit.

The .50/1.00 tables have the worst players that you will find online, I believe.

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thanks. Ill be sure to frequent when I graduate from stars nanos

BTW how are you going with mutlitabling these days? did that thread you posted prove useful?

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If you must play at rock gardens, bludgeon them into giving you action. I don't know about Paradise, but if you can't find a loose .50/1 table at Party (especially in 6-max), you're not looking hard enough.

I will say this...the PP .50/1 full ring games HAVE tightened up some since the advent of 6-max.

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thanks. Ill be sure to frequent when I graduate from stars nanos

BTW how are you going with mutlitabling these days? did that thread you posted prove useful?

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Heh, I gave up on multitabling and went back to playing one table at a time. I force myself (and it does take effort) to watch the hands I'm not in and try to get reads on other players. I really would like to play 2 tables at a time, but I know that if I did at this point, I would get no reads whatsoever on anyone and have to rely solely on pokertracker.

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so if the choice is between playing at a tight passive table and not playing, you choose not playing?

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You can't find another table?

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haha so true

but seriously, if you can't switch to another site because of lack of funds elswhere(whole roll on Paradise) and can't get a good .5/1 game, then either quit for now

or find a good .25/.5 table

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Dunno why nobody is being useful here...use your position more and raise alot. Marginal hands in position are worth plenty when you can steal the blinds. If you get played back at play smart and fold mostly because they aren't bluffing. Raise goofy suited connectors, any ace, any king, etc in late position, steal steal steal. Your stats should look like 25/20 or so with most of that being in the later positions.

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These tables are THE worst, period. The only money to be made is usually by stealing pots. If there's a calling station or two forget it. Whatever profit you'll might make at this table is too tiny to mess with. Unless you want to ply your skills in a rock garden for some strange reason, find a looser table or quit and use that time for studying poker, both are a better and more profitable use of your time.

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The plus side that no one has touched on (or my reading skills are shot) is that there's going to be little rake at a super-tight/passive .50-1 table. If you keep winning $2 pots, you never have to give up a cut to the house.

And a slow grind with small pots also means less variance.

The only problem I see is that maybe you're risk-averse, which is why you don't just play 6-max, where it's much looser. So, you might be uncomfortable with the more aggressive play you need to win at the tight tables. That would be a problem.

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The plus side that no one has touched on (or my reading skills are shot) is that there's going to be little rake at a super-tight/passive .50-1 table. If you keep winning $2 pots, you never have to give up a cut to the house.

And a slow grind with small pots also means less variance.

The only problem I see is that maybe you're risk-averse, which is why you don't just play 6-max, where it's much looser. So, you might be uncomfortable with the more aggressive play you need to win at the tight tables. That would be a problem.

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I believe the rake starts at 5 cents for every dollar in the pot at Paradise. You can't escape it.

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Dunno why nobody is being useful here...use your position more and raise alot. Marginal hands in position are worth plenty when you can steal the blinds. If you get played back at play smart and fold mostly because they aren't bluffing. Raise goofy suited connectors, any ace, any king, etc in late position, steal steal steal. Your stats should look like 25/20 or so with most of that being in the later positions.

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I was just sitting on the toilet readin Theory of Poker when I came to this same conclusion, I am opening my arsenal of hands up to at least what I consider blind defending hands. If people are only calling your raise with a good hand, you already basically already know what is in their hand, especially after the flop. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WEAK-TIGHT people. We at one point were, and probably still are, so we know their,our, tendencies.

I think this will loosen up the table or at least one fish after a few orbits.

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straddle. It works wonders in live games. I know you can't not look at your cards, just announce it when you are on the button.

You: I will be raising UTG next turn no matter what my cards are. Who wants to gamble it up a little?

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The rake starts at 25c after the first $5 is in the pot.

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Try this trick sometime. I about laughed my ass off when I hit the board. Be sure to show your hand and say you are a poker genius!

Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(9 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds.

River: (7.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB.

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DAG!