I\'ve stopped stacking neatly
 

Ok I've stopped stacking my chips in the standard 20's in geometric patters. I simply can count what I have way too easy, Now I just have large towers with no general order to them. It looks disheveled but I'm not concerend with were I am at any given time. It should not matter but I noticed it did to me.

Thoughts?

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You are talking limit poker, correct? A good dealer/floor will enforce the rule that they should be properly stacked in a no limit game...

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One problem with disheveled chips is that if a tower gets knocked down into someone elses stack it's difficult to establish how many chips are yours.

The advantage might be that you don't look like a nit.

~ Rick

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I've been doing the same thing for the past year or so, and for the exact same reason. And, I play limit almost exclusively. I like it, it keeps me from thinking about my bankroll when I should be thinking about the right move.

matt

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Ok I've stopped stacking my chips in the standard 20's in geometric patters. I simply can count what I have way too easy, Now I just have large towers with no general order to them. It looks disheveled but I'm not concerend with were I am at any given time. It should not matter but I noticed it did to me.

Thoughts?

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My card protector is a tiny (2") pewter tree. I also play 4/8 in AC, so we use reds and whites, even though I buy in for three racks of whites (usually to guffaws).

Because of the sheer number of chips, it's hard for me to make many piles, but I try to do so anyway. Inevitably, the number of chips I have goes down -- either I run a bit poorly and lose money, or I win pots with a lot of red chips in them.

Within an hour or so, I have about 6-10 stacks of random heights. I put the tree on top of a mid-sized one in the middle, and when someone asks, I say I'm making an island.

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...but stacking the chips is the best part of playing live poker!!

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One problem with disheveled chips is that if a tower gets knocked down into someone elses stack it's difficult to establish how many chips are yours.

The advantage might be that you don't look like a nit.

~ Rick

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I rarley go much above 30 high, and the grouping is still pretty tight. I just don't want to be able to glance and see how much I have.

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You are talking limit poker, correct? A good dealer/floor will enforce the rule that they should be properly stacked in a no limit game...

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In a no-limit,pot-limit game I agree, I also keep my largest denomination chips to the front. I am also constantly aware of how much I have and how much others have, plus I count the pot a little closer. (at certain points in limit it just no longer matters)

NL/PL stacks are important. In limit as long as I have around 20BB on the table it just doesn't matter.

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Believe it or not I've played no limit poker with all of my chips (white red and green) in one big heap, with no stacks. I was waiting for someone to say something to me but no one ever did. It was a very interesting experience.

-Yarney

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"I put the tree on top of a mid-sized one in the middle, and when someone asks, I say I'm making an island."

And then quietly retreat to that happy place...

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As much as I'd love to needle you on this, I've changed how I stack and have found it helpful in that way too. I kind of did it on accident actually. It can make a difference.

But I could always swing over to your table and knock your great wall of slavic down so you can stack them again... If you need the practice, that is.:p

b

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I am also constantly aware of how much I have and how much others have, plus I count the pot a little closer.

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I'm confused. You said you changed how you stack your chips so that you can't glance and see how many chips you have. Ok, I'm with you that's a decent idea. However then you say you constantly know how many chips you have. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of changing how you stacked the chips?

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I am also constantly aware of how much I have and how much others have, plus I count the pot a little closer.

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I'm confused. You said you changed how you stack your chips so that you can't glance and see how many chips you have. Ok, I'm with you that's a decent idea. However then you say you constantly know how many chips you have. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of changing how you stacked the chips?

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Constantly aware in NL/PL. Intentionally unaware in Limit.

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...but stacking the chips is the best part of playing live poker!!

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When you're having a big win, it really does add to the experience.

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GoT told me about this, and it's a good idea, but you can still tell in between sessions how much up or down you are, no matter how desheveled you make your chips.

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Just dump them in a freezer bag and save them for next time.

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Just dump them in a freezer bag and save them for next time.

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Keeping a rack of purple in the freezer causes people to look at you funny.

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"I put the tree on top of a mid-sized one in the middle, and when someone asks, I say I'm making an island."

And then quietly retreat to that happy place...

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The Borgata? (Non-Flash users must have no idea what I'm talking about....)

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This is +EV. Everyone who has read Caro's Tells will think that you are a LAG.

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I'm with you. I've taken to stacking them in a circular "staircase" pattern, with a small stack in front, then each stack clockwise (as I look down at it) is 5 chips higher. The stack in the middle of the circle is the tallest, and I play from that stack (so I don't screw up the +5 heights around the circle).

If I take a bad beat, I tend to re-stack the chips (make a castle, or whatever) so I'm not focused on the beat.

One time, a guy looks at me and asks "You've got what, $650 there?" (why he cared, I dunno. Limit. Maybe trying to figure out if I was up to decide how good I was or something). I told him I honestly had no idea, but then my inner OCD child had to know so I counted it down. He was within $20. Jerk.

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This is +EV. Everyone who has read Caro's Tells will think that you are a LAG.

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I doubt they will think me a LAG. Chip stacking only holds for a few minutes.

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Ok I've stopped stacking my chips in the standard 20's in geometric patters. I simply can count what I have way too easy, Now I just have large towers with no general order to them. It looks disheveled but I'm not concerend with were I am at any given time. It should not matter but I noticed it did to me.

Thoughts?

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Last time I played 4/8 I stacked them in stacks of 8. Then I made two rows with another row staggered on top. Made being a LAG that much faster.

-D

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Ok I've stopped stacking my chips in the standard 20's in geometric patters. I simply can count what I have way too easy, Now I just have large towers with no general order to them. It looks disheveled but I'm not concerend with were I am at any given time. It should not matter but I noticed it did to me.

Thoughts?

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Last time I played 4/8 I stacked them in stacks of 8. Then I made two rows with another row staggered on top. Made being a LAG that much faster.

-D

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With more practice you will be able to cut exactly 8 chips out of a standard stack and fling them with feigned carelessness.