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DarkForceRising 08-24-2005 11:53 AM

For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
It just hit my Neteller account so check yours. 48 hours- [censored] BS.

Now it's time to go and lose $600 to get that free $100 at Empire.

niwotyalpi 08-24-2005 12:11 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
Thanks for the update. I really was starting to get a little worried. I was havin nightmares about the site going under and keeping all my money, lol.

DarkForceRising 08-24-2005 12:18 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
After I got the $ I cashed out the rest I had in Euro. In the era of instant everything this is unacceptable.

The only reason I played there in the first place was because I liked the little flag on the Aces.

PennDisc 08-24-2005 12:25 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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After I got the $ I cashed out the rest I had in Euro. In the era of instant everything this is unacceptable.

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Are you serious? Waiting a couple days for a cashout is not the end of the world, and is certainly well worth having high rakeback at a party skin. If you desperately need a couple hundred bucks that bad what were you doing at Eurobet in the first place?

DarkForceRising 08-24-2005 12:30 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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After I got the $ I cashed out the rest I had in Euro. In the era of instant everything this is unacceptable.

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Are you serious? Waiting a couple days for a cashout is not the end of the world, and is certainly well worth having high rakeback at a party skin. If you desperately need a couple hundred bucks that bad what were you doing at Eurobet in the first place?

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I hope you feel better about yourself after posting this. My deal with Empire is just as good and I can cashout within a few hours. 48 hours is simply an unnecessary irritation.

Seriously, is your life that empty and pathetic?

teddyFBI 08-24-2005 12:39 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
it also just hit my account -- they told me they had some delays with Neteller whatever that means.

usually my euro cahsouts take under 12 hours -- this one took around 48 -- not the end of the world.

Uglyowl 08-24-2005 12:52 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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this one took around 48 -- not the end of the world.

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I can understand if the bonus period at another site is dwindling down it is [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Sounds like that may be the case here.

PennDisc 08-24-2005 01:04 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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I hope you feel better about yourself after posting this. My deal with Empire is just as good and I can cashout within a few hours. 48 hours is simply an unnecessary irritation.

Seriously, is your life that empty and pathetic?

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An "unnecessary irritation" is not the same as unacceptable. And good for you if you can get a 30%+ deal at empire, I couldn't. Many people don't find it unacceptable to wait a few days for the money

And my point is, if you can't wait that long for a couple hundred bucks why aren't you at empire instead? Why aren't you at one of the hundreds of other sites instead of Eurobet where the redeeming quality is high rakeback?

But since you jumped to conclusions about what I was saying and decided to call me empty and pathetic, you can go F yourself. Have fun boycotting Eurobet for their grave transgressions against your soul.

DarkForceRising 08-25-2005 01:04 AM

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this one took around 48 -- not the end of the world.

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I can understand if the bonus period at another site is dwindling down it is [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Sounds like that may be the case here.

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Everytime I get fed up with this forum guys like UglyOwl restore my faith in Zoomanity. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] FWIW, I merely posted this as a courtesy to those who have been waiting all week for their dough from Euro (as usual). They guys in this forum have helped me a lot so I try to reciprocate in any way I can- and usually it isn't much.

As for you, Penn, I don't need some nOOb who knows nothing about me implying that I am somehow so desperate for $200 that I am "boycotting" Eurobet. If you spent some time at this forum before shooting your virtual mouth off you might realize the sarcasm in my OP.

Apparently, the "I only play there because I like the flag on the aces" line didn't register with you.

There is an old saying in Texas (I think they have it in Tennessee, also)...

"Fool me once- shame on you. Fool me twice and...uh...


STFU nOOB!".

TheNoodleMan 08-25-2005 02:38 AM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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There is an old saying in Texas (I think they have it in Tennessee, also)...

"Fool me once- shame on you. Fool me twice and...uh...


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We won't get fooled again.
-Dubya!

Non_Comformist 08-25-2005 03:18 AM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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After I got the $ I cashed out the rest I had in Euro. In the era of instant everything this is unacceptable.

The only reason I played there in the first place was because I liked the little flag on the Aces.

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I actually think waiting 2 days for a neteller cashout is unacceptable and yes there have been times when I have really needed a cashout like 200 which is the reason I would some something like neteller or epassporte.

dibbs 08-25-2005 05:30 AM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
If you really like them Euro-ey flag Aces, you can just open up the images file for EB, copy the Aces, and hit paste in your Party/Empire images folder.

Maybe Im taking this comment way too seriously, I need sleep.

PennDisc 08-25-2005 11:53 AM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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"Fool me once- shame on you. Fool me twice and...uh...

STFU nOOB!".

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Wow, your sophistication astounds me. First off, you just registered 2 months ago so it is amazing how you get off calling people "nOOB". Second, anyone who thinks saying "STFU nOOB!" is making a valid point should have their head examined.

PITTM 08-25-2005 12:07 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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"Fool me once- shame on you. Fool me twice and...uh...

STFU nOOB!".

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Wow, your sophistication astounds me. First off, you just registered 2 months ago so it is amazing how you get off calling people "nOOB". Second, anyone who thinks saying "STFU nOOB!" is making a valid point should have their head examined.

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your first post was stupid, so was the second, so was the third. ive been waiting 48 hours for my eurobet cashout. while im not "starving for 100 bucks" i really dont like someone telling me "your cashout will be processed in 24 hours" and then having it take 48+ and not telling me whats going on. i suggest going somewhere else if your intention is to be a douchebag here.

rj

MicroBob 08-25-2005 12:14 PM

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I actually think waiting 2 days for a neteller cashout is unacceptable

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wow how times have changed.

once upon a time getting your neteller cash-out processed in LESS than 2 days would have been a good thing.

gila 08-25-2005 12:19 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
My cashout from EB has reached about 60 hours now.

PITTM 08-25-2005 12:20 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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My cashout from EB has reached about 60 hours now.

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me too, i just got the 3rd message from support that my cashout would be processed "shortly" the first promise of "shortly" came yesterday morning...good times. at least my entire bankroll is lost in transit. funnnnnnn

rj

niwotyalpi 08-25-2005 12:52 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
I was just told that my cashout was being processed "today". I guess thats an improvement over the "soon" that they were telling me. Either way its been well over 60 hours for me and I do not plan on putting any money back into euro ever at this point, rakeback or not.

illogical 08-25-2005 12:53 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
I'm still waiting for my money! Eurobet customer service said my transaction suffered technical problems(wtf does that mean?). Right now I feel like giving someone at customer service a technical problem on their face with my fists. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

niwotyalpi 08-25-2005 01:30 PM

Update
 
Well it's a miracle, nearly 65 hours after my cashout my money is there. Just wanted to give this a bump so other people can check their accounts. Mine showed up at 1:15 pm.

Allinlife 08-25-2005 01:32 PM

Re: Update
 
you guys need to calm down..not like owners of eurobet will take and flee with your money.

illogical 08-25-2005 01:37 PM

Re: Update
 
I got mine too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

PITTM 08-25-2005 01:52 PM

Re: Update
 
great, mine finally got here...however, i can confirm that the empire bonus no longer works. good old costing me 100 bucks...

rj

gila 08-25-2005 01:55 PM

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you guys need to calm down..not like owners of eurobet will take and flee with your money.

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Mine is in too. Although I was not real concerned about eurobet fleeing with my money, strangely, I still wanted my money. Go figure.

MicroBob 08-25-2005 02:02 PM

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I don't think that a 60 hour cash-out is that big a deal.

Perhaps I'm just used to the fact that almost all cash-outs used to take 2-4 days as recently as a couple years ago.


I honestly didn't realize that a 3 day cash-out was SO out of the norm these days as to ignite a bordeline-panic.

I guess the fact that this just doesn't happen as much is a good thing.
But I just don't see the reason everyone is being so upset about this.


Couple other things:

I always keep some extra money in neteller for bonus-chasing/depositing purposes. But I understand if people would just rather shuffle money around I suppose (if they don't have enough to just let some sit around in neteller doing nothing perhaps).

Still...this Empire bonus was 100% up to $100. How hard would it have been to just get it there from your bank if you wanted to make sure you got the bonus that badly?

Also - the Empire bonus came in the pop-up on Empire recently of course...but it was announced on these forums several days ahead of time.


Long-story short....you just shouldn't have money tied-up in an online-poker account that you think you might need near-immediate access to.

Euro kept acknowledging that they were taking care of the situation. It's not like it had been 2 weeks since your cash-out AND the site wasn't even responding to you.

I think talk of "I'm never depositing there again" is WAY over-the-top. Seems like a minor-delay to me and nothing more.

PennDisc 08-25-2005 02:05 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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"Fool me once- shame on you. Fool me twice and...uh...

STFU nOOB!".

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your first post was stupid, so was the second, so was the third. ive been waiting 48 hours for my eurobet cashout.
i suggest going somewhere else if your intention is to be a douchebag here.

rj

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Gee, look at these 2 quotes and tell me who are the ones being douchebags.

Sorry you've all been waiting so long for cashouts, and I have no beef with comments about that. And if you want to see if others are having problems too, have at it. What I'm seeing as odd is how waiting a few days to cashout makes playing at a site "unacceptable." Eurobet has never been all that fast with cashouts, and the extra sportsbook steps are a pain. No real bonuses either - but they have great rakeback which makes it worth playing. In fact, IMO that trumps the bad points. This stuff has been well known for awhile, and if slow cashouts make playing there "unacceptable" WTF were you doing there in the first place?

Maybe microbob had a more diplomatic way of approaching the subject but I had no intention of sparking the flamewar you and DarkForce are so eager to have with me. If my posts are so stupid, don't respond - especially since you were uninvolved to begin with PITT.

x2ski 08-25-2005 02:08 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
I find it HI-larious how this whole withdrawal/deposit thing works.

After Dr. Al's post about Empire security, I promptly withdrew all my money from both Empire and Eurobet, figuring it's not too big a hassle to withdraw every night and re-deposit the next day.

Well, the next day my Empire cash is in Neteller, while the Eurobet cash is not (and still isn't, 48 hrs later); however, I now have zero cash in my Eurobet account, so I re-deposit from Neteller and "BAM!", as they used to say in the Ragu commercials, "It's in there!" within 11.25 seconds.

Why the huge descrepancy between deposit and cashout times at these sites? Does it take that long to nullify possible cheating/collusion? Are they that freaking thorough?

I doubt it.

Ps. I'm trying to EFT to my bank from Neteller right now and am repeatedly getting "document contains no data" errors.

Can I say "gaysville"? Can I? Well, I'm a gonna...

Gaysville.

PPs. Turns out it was Firefox, not Neteller. I still stand by the Gaysville remark though.

MicroBob 08-25-2005 02:17 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
when I first started playing I too wondered why a deposit can be instantaneous but a cash-out can typically take 2-4 days.

guess I've just gotten used to it (and sometimes it can have to do with the fact that they haven't received all the money from your deposit yet....but mostly it's just because they're a bit lazy about it I suspect).

PITTM 08-25-2005 02:39 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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"Fool me once- shame on you. Fool me twice and...uh...

STFU nOOB!".

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your first post was stupid, so was the second, so was the third. ive been waiting 48 hours for my eurobet cashout.
i suggest going somewhere else if your intention is to be a douchebag here.

rj

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Gee, look at these 2 quotes and tell me who are the ones being douchebags.

Sorry you've all been waiting so long for cashouts, and I have no beef with comments about that. And if you want to see if others are having problems too, have at it. What I'm seeing as odd is how waiting a few days to cashout makes playing at a site "unacceptable." Eurobet has never been all that fast with cashouts, and the extra sportsbook steps are a pain. No real bonuses either - but they have great rakeback which makes it worth playing. In fact, IMO that trumps the bad points. This stuff has been well known for awhile, and if slow cashouts make playing there "unacceptable" WTF were you doing there in the first place?

Maybe microbob had a more diplomatic way of approaching the subject but I had no intention of sparking the flamewar you and DarkForce are so eager to have with me. If my posts are so stupid, don't respond - especially since you were uninvolved to begin with PITT.

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you;ll get no flame war from me, your first two posts were obviously completely uninformed and incorrect, this is why i responded that you should make sure they are informed or correct in the future. we obviously werent "in need" of the money, just the fact that it took a day extra made me miss the empire bonus and i was slightly annoyed. however, the hilarity of you saying "youre not involved, dont respond" after you initially responded not only when you werent involved, but when you didnt know the slightest detail about the situation. i would recommend against that in the future.

rj

emonrad87 08-25-2005 02:40 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
This is because of the way the process works.

When you make a deposit, the poker site verifies with neteller that you actually have enough in your account to cover it, then requests the money from neteller. However, they front you the money in the mean time so you can gambool it up right away. then, a couple days later, the poker site gets the money from neteller and the force is back in balance.

Neteller, however, does not front you the money when you cash out. So, it takes the full time that the transfer takes to get there.

It's kinda similar to a debit/credit transaction at a store. They verify that you have the necessary credit/funds to cover the cost of the item and give you the item. But they dont get the money for a couple days - if you have internet banking you can verify this. The money won't leave your account until a couple days after the purchase date.

PennDisc 08-25-2005 02:53 PM

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you;ll get no flame war from me, your first two posts were obviously completely uninformed and incorrect, this is why i responded that you should make sure they are informed or correct in the future. we obviously werent "in need" of the money, just the fact that it took a day extra made me miss the empire bonus and i was slightly annoyed. however, the hilarity of you saying "youre not involved, dont respond" after you initially responded not only when you werent involved, but when you didnt know the slightest detail about the situation. i would recommend against that in the future.


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The point of all my posts is that Eurobet is a perfectly acceptable place to play, despite slow cashouts. I've stated why I think that, so I'm clearly not "completely uninformed and incorrect" as it's an opinion and contained an informed response. And I said don't respond to my posts if you consider them stupid when you're not involved already. I didn't consider the first post I responded to stupid, but I had a counter-point to the fact that he found Eurobet an unacceptable place to play. You just went out of your way to call my posts stupid and yet I suppose you found the "STFU nOOB!" post very enlightening. Fantastic.

x2ski 08-25-2005 02:54 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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This is because of the way the process works.

When you make a deposit, the poker site verifies with neteller that you actually have enough in your account to cover it, then requests the money from neteller. However, they front you the money in the mean time so you can gambool it up right away. then, a couple days later, the poker site gets the money from neteller and the force is back in balance.

Neteller, however, does not front you the money when you cash out. So, it takes the full time that the transfer takes to get there.

It's kinda similar to a debit/credit transaction at a store. They verify that you have the necessary credit/funds to cover the cost of the item and give you the item. But they dont get the money for a couple days - if you have internet banking you can verify this. The money won't leave your account until a couple days after the purchase date.

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So I guess my idea of withdrawing and depositing each and every day might cause worlds to collide. Does anyone actually cash out every night and redeposit the next day? I don't have to, but it seems to be the safest way to go about my business.

Also, regarding Internet banking... My main bank account is with E*Trade, and it is amazing how fast everything works over there. I bought a DLP projector at Best Buy last week with my debit card, went to an ATM machine 5 minutes later to get some cash, and the Best Buy transaction was already out of my account balance. FWIW, this was also after normal business hours (9:30pm or so).

My old bank, M&I Bank, would normally take a few days, as you described.

ds914 08-25-2005 03:28 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
I was wondering how someone had 400+ posts that quickly. Not much of a mystery, I suppose...

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/2839/226gq.jpg

emonrad87 08-25-2005 03:42 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
Not sure about how your idea would work.. but knowing the sites they'd probably get annoyed and slow your cashouts waaaaaay down after a while. Why exactly are you doing it? You mentioned a thread, can you point me to it?

Oh, and I just remembered - about 3 weeks ago I finally opened a neteller account after using epassporte for a while, and rather than cashout through my bank account I deposited a whole bunch of times to Empire on one day and then cashed it all out. That cashout took about 5 days to process - I get the feeling they did not like what I was doing.

Victor 08-25-2005 03:44 PM

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I actually think waiting 2 days for a neteller cashout is unacceptable

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wow how times have changed.

once upon a time getting your neteller cash-out processed in LESS than 2 days would have been a good thing.

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exactly...what a bunch of n000000000bs

x2ski 08-25-2005 03:48 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
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Not sure about how your idea would work.. but knowing the sites they'd probably get annoyed and slow your cashouts waaaaaay down after a while. Why exactly are you doing it? You mentioned a thread, can you point me to it?

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Link

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Oh, and I just remembered - about 3 weeks ago I finally opened a neteller account after using epassporte for a while, and rather than cashout through my bank account I deposited a whole bunch of times to Empire on one day and then cashed it all out. That cashout took about 5 days to process - I get the feeling they did not like what I was doing.

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That's too funny. I can imagine some dude who, hating his cubicle-dwelling existence, spited you for giving him extra work to do.

I guess it's best to take my chances and leave a playable balance in those accounts.

Losing all 08-25-2005 04:14 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
best sht paper, hehe.

MicroBob 08-25-2005 04:21 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
if your cash-out was anytime near your deposits then they were possibly just waiting for the money to clear weren't they?


or....if the deposits looked suspicious it possibly took them a couple of days to just say "hang on. are we sure there's nothing fishy regarding these transactions? they look kind of strange."


i doubt that it was because you just ticked them off by depositing too much and someone was trying to spite you by hanging onto your money.

you probably rang some alarm-bells there somehow or perhaps the money was just in transit somehow.

gila 08-25-2005 04:22 PM

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I don't think that a 60 hour cash-out is that big a deal.



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I do not think it is that big of deal either. I used to play mostly pacific a year ago, cashouts were fast if they were there in a week and a half. Plus I play alot of casinos which are not known for there speedy cashout process. BUT, I have got somewhat used to eurobets cashouts of having the money in the next day if you request before 5:00 p.m. on a weekday; AND, after many times of doing this, it is somewhat strange when it all of a sudden takes 3 days. But, no panic here, and saying that one would never play there again b/c of a 60 hour cash is just stupid.

PITTM 08-25-2005 07:28 PM

Re: For those sweating your recent Eurobet cashout
 
you said "If you desperately need a couple hundred bucks that bad what were you doing at Eurobet in the first place? ". you obviously didnt consider ANY factors before saying this unless you just really wanted to be inflammatory and stupid... just because i would like my money, from a site that owes it to me, because i would like to use it to get 100 dollars more free doesnt mean we;re some kind of poor idiots. i made a snotty response to your series of snotty responses because you didnt take the factors that need to be considered into consideration. if you still think your first two posts in this thread helped with ANYTHING then youre wayyyy beyond me being able to explain what is wrong with what you said...

rj


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