best PT overlay program? GameTime+, PokerAce Hud, Playerview?
 

Hi,
Subject says it all. I'm tired of PT's 'game time' windows, and want to take one of the overlay programs for a spin. Sorry if this is asked constantly - I did a little searching, but couldn't find comparison of all three. I did see someone say that PV is best for Party - is that the current concensus?

Thanks,
Pasta

Re: best PT overlay program? GameTime+, PokerAce Hud, Playerview?
 

PA HUD by a country mile

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PA HUD by a country mile

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PA HUD by a country mile

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...how far is that in kilometres?

ditto, PA HUD and it's not even close!

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PA HUD by a country mile

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...how far is that in kilometres?

ditto, PA HUD and it's not even close!

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I've supported PV from the beginning and give Amir and CT credit for starting the craze but PA HUD just plain rocks.

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I also supported (and defended, and paid for) PV, but PAHud is a better product. I used GT+ a few times, but I really didn't like having to set up each table I opened.

PAHud and PV are very similar, but I've found PAHud to have far fewer bugs, and actually better support. I could be biased.

I'd recommend trying both GT+ and PAHud. If you find that you like PAHud, then give the demo version of PV a try. If you really like PV better than PAHud, then go ahead and buy it.

However, realize that PV hasn't been updated in months (to my knowledge) and the last release is still somewhat buggy.

Be sure to visit all the relavent forums.

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and give Amir and CT credit for starting the craze

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Correct me if I'm wrong but that credit should go to Kross and Gametime+ since I believe it was around for quite a while before Playerview ever came to be.

T

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I just wanted to say thanks to all for steering me the right way. After one evening with PA Hud (two-tabling Party $2/$4), I'm extremely impressed with it - no bugs seen, and very intuitive. Pretty much worked 'right out of the box'. I also appreciated that it put much less load on my crummy laptop, compared to PT's 'gametime' windows (which now seem even more incredibly primitive). It would be nice if my own chosen stats could be displayed next to my avatar, but that's a nit (and I can see why that might be problematic to design, given the layout paradigm).

I'm curious about the table stat for average pot size (TPT1) - how is that computed? It seemed to fluctuate more than it should. I read the post about the other table stats being computed from all the players' stats, but that can't be for this stat, can it?

Anyhow, thanks PokerAce - I'll definitely be sending a donation (my paypal name is different). Keep up the good work.

Pasta

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I'm curious about the table stat for average pot size (TPT1) - how is that computed? It seemed to fluctuate more than it should. I read the post about the other table stats being computed from all the players' stats, but that can't be for this stat, can it?

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The average pot size is an average of the last X pots. X is configured in the preferences (Hands Used For Averages).

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What makes pokerace better than gametime+?

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In my opinion? Keep in mind this is biased [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

The reason I developed PA Hud was because GT+ didn't suit my needs. I like being able to independantly place each stat on the window. I like being able to customize each stat separately, especially with color coding based on the value of the stats.

I also need to have support for multiple databases, as well as automatically finding my tables. I hated having to wait for hands to import into PokerTracker before having stats.

Another big plus people seem to like is the mucked cards option. PA Hud can automatically display the hands players muck at showdown. This saves you the hassle of having to open the hand history window yourself.

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Everything.

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and give Amir and CT credit for starting the craze

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Correct me if I'm wrong but that credit should go to Kross and Gametime+ since I believe it was around for quite a while before Playerview ever came to be.

T

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I don't claim to know definitively, but I first became aware of the idea when Amir created a thread here last October/November suggesting the concept. Many people were interested and quite a few mocked-up screen shots were posted in the thread. CT got involved somewhere along the way and a working beta was in service the day before Thanksgiving. Amir literally worked 'round the clock on releasing bug fixes during those days.

I didn't become aware of GT+ till several weeks after all this and never used it extensively.

PA-HUD is the best yet, IMO.

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anyone got a link to the website? and is this banned in any way by party?

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I have to say, having just tried PA HUD after using GT+ extensively, that PA is the way to go.

Postive factors:
It doesn't seem to slow my system down at all
You don't need to play a hand to get 'preview' numbers
MOST IMPORTANTLY. the automatic display of losing hands at showdown feature rocks.

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I think it depends. If you have a straight choice between GT+ and PAH (say on Party) then I agree that PAH is the better product. But the latest version of GT+ is catching up (IMHO) and if you're playing on UB it has a very nice "prefetch" feature that grabs hand histories - no need to wait for your datamining!

So I'd have both and use which one's best for the particular situation.

Paul

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PA HUD just rocks. Never had any troubles with it. Only feature I missed at launch was a decent layout manager, copying one seats design to other seats would have been nifty. (This might be in now, after working for a couple of hours I haven't changed my layout.)

No memory leak, no huge disk access bursts, no mini-freezes. It just runs. Smoothly.

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seat copying is in now, and I like PA A LOT.

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Been using gt+ and PA for a few weeks. I'm now only using PA. Very similar in what they do. A few differences:

Interface: PA (at least with PS) is slicker in the way it displays the summary stats next to the players on the table. They both show similar data though (minor edge to PA). GT+ shows more details when you move the cursor over the summary stats, PA shows the stats when you click on the player name. Pretty similar but it's a bit easier in GT+.

Finding Tables: this is the biggest functionality difference. In GT+ you hit a '+' button and it shows you the tables you have open to select from assuming you have PT set to auto import and it has already done so for at least one hand on each open table that you want to import. PA actually is able to figure out that you have tables open and automatically set up the stats so as long as you have it running, there is nothing manual you have to do. You also do not need to have PT running to see historic stats since it is able to read them directly from the hand histories on your system. However, if you don't have PT going and doing the auto imports it will not update the stats from the current play.

Mucked hands: great feature of PA, GT+ doesn't have it. If you want to see mucked hands normally you have to go to the hand histories. However, in PA it will automatically show you the mucked hands for about 5 seconds after the hand is over. It superimposes the mucked cards and the board cards over the table. Really cool, but it would be great if they add a feature for the user to keep the cards on the screen for a while in case they miss the cards (it happens pretty fast). I requested this and the developer says it's in the works.

Seeing your own stats: In GT+ it's pretty easy to view your own stats on the table from your current session. I like to do this to see how others at the table perceive my play. When you're multi-tabling your not always sure how you're doing at any one table. PA has this feature, but I cannot get it to work.

Compatibility: Only use it on PS, so not sure how they work on other programs.

Hope this helps.

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Seeing your own stats: In GT+ it's pretty easy to view your own stats on the table from your current session. I like to do this to see how others at the table perceive my play. When you're multi-tabling your not always sure how you're doing at any one table. PA has this feature, but I cannot get it to work.

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Select the stat you want to see in layout manager and check the 'show mine' box. It'll drop the stat (e.g., V$ME) on the upper left corner of the layout - you'll have to place it manually.

Again, thanks everyone for steering me to PA Hud. It rocks.

Pasta

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Pasta, thanks. I know how to do it, just doesn't seem to work for me for some reason.

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Are you sure? When I first tried it, I didn't think it worked either. I didn't realize it was dropping them in the corner (one on top of another). It's easy to miss.

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Pasta, thanks. I know how to do it, just doesn't seem to work for me for some reason.

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First, make sure you are importing into PokerTracker while you play.

Second, make sure you don't have any other stats in the top left corner of the table in the layout manager. Sometimes stats can be hidden under other stats.

If neither of these is the problem, let me know and we'll get it figured out.

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I just started using PAHUD earlier this week and it is an amazing, amazing product. Very fast, efficient, automatically loads information, and, of course, displaying hands at showdown is a great time saver. I haven't tried GT+ or PV though so this is obviously biased.

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PA HUD by a country mile

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