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I think I am going to tell my family that I want to be an organ donor. Is there anything I should know before I do this? Is there any reason why I would not want to do this? Basically, if I'm dead, I don't see why I should mind them taking a few of my organs if it will help someone else who still has a shot at living. Maybe I'm missing an important detail though.

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The hospital steals your soul along with your organs.

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I dont really see any drawbacks, unless you are in a religion or have some family customs that strictly forbids not letting someone bury your "whole" body once you are dead. I know there are some very traditional Chinese people that still feel that way.

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No. Do it. I have... although I'm too unhealthy for any part of my body to be of any use.

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When Jesus brings you back to life, your life is going to suck without all your organs.

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Since you won't have any control over who will get your organs when you die (that's how it works in Sweden anyway), you might end up saving the life of someone you would rather see dead.

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Since you won't have any control over who will get your organs when you die (that's how it works in Sweden anyway), you might end up saving the life of someone you would rather see dead.

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Like a minority??

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It could be that, yes. I believe that I that own my body in the same way I own other material possesions, and if I can decline to let a certain person inherit my house or money for whatever reason I wish, I should have the same right when it comes to my kidneys.

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It could be that, yes. I believe that I that own my body in the same way I own other material possesions, and if I can decline to let a certain person inherit my house or money for whatever reason I wish, I should have the same right when it comes to my kidneys.

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So you hate black people is what you're saying...

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Generally, any in which you donate an organ is going to be a pretty lousy day for you.

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I have heard people say stupid things such as, "If they see you are an organ donor then the doctors will do less to save you." Sounds like a load of [censored] to me.

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I have said no such thing and I wouldn't personally take ethniticity into consideration. I was arguing for the principle of property rights.

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I plan to be burried fully intact in a large Tupperware, since I am too cheap to pay for the cryogenic-freezing.

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if the doctors don't like you they will let you die so they can give your organs to someone they think is more deserving.

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the 12 to 18 month waiting list when your other kidney packs in....

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your name will be placed on a list of organ doners, and if someone from the illuminati needs a kindey for one of their loved ones, you could end up getting "disapearing"

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When you die, both kidneys stop.

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I have said no such thing and I wouldn't personally take ethniticity into consideration. I was arguing for the principle of property rights.

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Brings up the question of why can't people sell their organs. Its theirs.

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If Science is advanced enough to bring people back to life, they can plug a new organ in to you, they're good at planning. Jesus is more of an ad hoc miracle kind of guy and might not arrange a pair of kidneys before hand (and will be pretty busy influencing the outcome of sporting events and US foreign policy).

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cons: don't want someone else running around with your weiner

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Since you won't have any control over who will get your organs when you die (that's how it works in Sweden anyway), you might end up saving the life of someone you would rather see dead.

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Like a minority??

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*apologies to any minorities

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Just the other day I donated an organ to my church--







The Church of Splatter Day Taints

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As a recipient of a kidney transplant, I'm not entirely objective. But there are no negatives to being an cadaveric organ donor for the person doing the donating, since they will be dead. The only possible negative is if you have a close relative who strongly objects for religious reasons. I would hope that would not be enough of an objection to stop someone for being a donor.

Many states have registries for people who ant to be organ donors. Be sure to register AND tell your family.

If you do discuss this with your family, it might be a good time to discuss funeral arrangements of everybody. Cremation or embalming, where to be buried or have the service, how much to spend. Flowers or donations to charities, etc, etc.

These topics don't come up very often, but can be very useful to know when a family member dies, hopefully many years after the discusion.

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I think I am going to tell my family that I want to be an organ donor. Is there anything I should know before I do this? Is there any reason why I would not want to do this? Basically, if I'm dead, I don't see why I should mind them taking a few of my organs if it will help someone else who still has a shot at living. Maybe I'm missing an important detail though.

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Well... here's something interesting.

My mother works at a hospital, and she told me that they formerly just tied down bodies of braindead individuals and cut into them, removing whatever organs they're looking for.

However, recently they've started to anethetize the bodies before operating, because they would struggle, and it really freaked out the staff.

No, I'm not joking.

The scary thing is that these were/are brain-dead bodies.

Anyone who can disprove me would be appreciated, because this kinda freaks me out.

FWIW, I'm still an organ donor (potentially, anyways).

Edit: Also, for you canadians out there, realize that your organ donor card isn't legally binding, as your body immediately goes into your family's custody when you die... ie. your parents / next of kin can choose not to donate.

So talk to your family if you decide to do this.

--Dave.

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I have heard people say stupid things such as, "If they see you are an organ donor then the doctors will do less to save you." Sounds like a load of [censored] to me.

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Coma

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I have said no such thing and I wouldn't personally take ethniticity into consideration. I was arguing for the principle of property rights.

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Uh... the guy who brought up the minority thing is kinda a moran (sorry mason, but how the hell did you extrapolate minority from what he was saying?).

Olaf, if you choose to be an organ donor, that's a good way to exercise your property rights.

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Since you won't have any control over who will get your organs when you die (that's how it works in Sweden anyway), you might end up saving the life of someone you would rather see dead.

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Like a minority??

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Oh sweet, I've been a jackass in my reply to mason, then...

maybe...

Where's this from?

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You can't get buried in an orthodox jew cemetary.

(Maybe...consult your rabbi)

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Uh... the guy who brought up the minority thing is kinda a moran (sorry mason, but how the hell did you extrapolate minority from what he was saying?).

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Well I did fail statistics so I could have been way off base in my extrapolation....

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I'm donating the whole damn body. I see no cons.

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Since you won't have any control over who will get your organs when you die (that's how it works in Sweden anyway), you might end up saving the life of someone you would rather see dead.

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A) There are people that you wish death upon?
B) There are *enough* people out there that you wish death upon, that you think there's a chance that one of them will get your organs?
C) And you think that who gets your organs will make a lick of difference to you after you're dead?
D) How would you feel one day when you need a transplant and you discover that nobody is donating organs anymore because everyone is as selfish as you?

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Maybe you could donate and volunteer for the Visible Human pt.2? Here

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I'm not religious so it looks like there's no real reason for me not to do it. By the way, I'm only 23 years old so HOPEFULLY this won't even be an issue for a very long time.

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how could there be drawbacks? If you are unfortunate enough to die young, at least you can save the lives of a whole bunch of people...I can't see how everyone isn't an organ donor.

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Dibs on his liver!

I have a feeling cirrhois is just around the corner.

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i believe it's a popular theory/urban legend that certain doctors will "play god" with you if it's known that you're an organ donor. meaning true measures to save your life in an emergency won't be taken because you are 1 life, and your fresh organs are worth more than 1 life.

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Since I work in the field I can give a couple of comments.

Advantages:

a. It's generally considered to be a noble, altruistic thing (at least in Western Cultures) to do since you are helping others by giving them a life-changing gift.

b. It may assist in helping your family members during the grieving process since they may take comfort in the fact that your death may result in saving the lives of others

c. You're not likely to miss them anyways

d. A single donor can make help up to 250 patients if they also donate tissue

Possible disadvantages:

a. Even though it goes against the basic principle a young, otherwise healthy donor will be treated like a commodity while older donors may not get treated with the respect they deserve. This is basically because most surgeons refuse to listen to empirical evidence showing that there is very little difference in strength tests and failure rates between different age sets of donors. Marketing by various tissue agencies are also to blame for this. This is an industry problem that I encounter on a daily basis and really frickin' sucks since I feel for the families that donated Uncle Ted but because he's 51 years old he's not considered 'prime' because of his age.

b. A thorough medical history with some pretty pointed questions will be asked to the donors family to assure there is no immediate rule-outs due to high-risk behaviors.

c.You will literally be parted out and may be shipped all over the world. If it bugs you that someone in Sri Lanka may get your cornea then this might be an issue although you can have your family request that you only go to US recipents.

Obviously it's a personal choice with a pretty +EV for society as a whole. If you do make the decision to donate organs I highly suggest you also look into donating tissue as well. The potential to help many more patients is greatly increased and it's not going involve that much more in post-mortum recovery.

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how could there be drawbacks? If you are unfortunate enough to die young, at least you can save the lives of a whole bunch of people...I can't see how everyone isn't an organ donor.

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People don't like to think about dying, let alone being sliced open and having their organs harvested when it happens.

The scare-lore that one of the previous posters described about brain dead individuals "squirming and grimacing" as they're being cut open only confirms peoples' fears.

And for those people who believed his stories of "squirming" brain dead bodies...I went on the web to research this question, and every site that made reference to bodies squirming and grimacing during harvesting were also affiliated with special interests groups and/or religious groups. They make it very clear on the sites that they don't support organ donation.

Sigh...and how effective do you think organ removal would be when the patient is squirming during the procedure? I like how the poster mentioned that the patient would be "tied down" to keep them from squirming. Double sigh.

I also found numerous medical sites that deal with organ donation, and they discuss all the tests that must be performed before a body is deemed a candidate for harvesting. One of the tests is a "pain test", which specifically watches for the patient grimacing or moving in response to pain. If the patient responds to pain, it indicates that there is enough brain function left that they are not clininically brain dead. You need to be clinically brain dead before they will remove your organs for transplant.

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There is no way I will be donating my organs.

I am very sexy and as a result, I would imagine the gay necropheliacs (sp?) will be lining up outside my door to SIIMP once I die...

Since I'll be dead, I just can't see the need to give them a crappy piece of ass.