What Bigwig has been up to since his meltdown last Sunday
 

I've dropped down to the $30s. I've been crushing them. Before I switched to the $50s, I had about 3000 SNG's under my belt at the 20/30 levels, and had attained an ROI of around 27-28%. After much consideration, I moved to the 50s.

My first 800 returned 25%. Very nice. My last 1200 have been 8%. Not so hot. For an average of 15%.

Where are the truths? If I can maintain 28% at the $30s, I would make more than 15% at the 50s. But does this compute? Shouldn't someone, who has such a good history at the $30 level be able to make more at the $50 level? I would think so.

Could it be something in my style of play that thouroughly crushes the $30s, but is a leak at the $50s? What could be the major and obvious problems?

Anyway, for the time being, I'm going to concentrate on learning to 8 table the $30s. It's what I'm most comfortable with right now. Anyone have any possible answers to the above questions?

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I do not remember who but someone just said that all of the regular grinders at the 30s had moved up to the 50s and that they had become a lot tougher so that might be part of the problem

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I seem to recall a bet between Irieguy and Zen about being able to make more money at the 33s than at the 55s?

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I don't have any answers to your questions but I have a question of my own.

You have lots of 20s and 30s under your belt from before. How many games of 20s and how many 30s did you play and what was your ROI at each level?

I am in the 20s (8 tabling them now) and will soon move to the 30s most likely. How did you find the play in the 30s compared to the 20s and 50s?

Thanks.

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Could it be something in my style of play that thouroughly crushes the $30s, but is a leak at the $50s?

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Maybe the $50s are just harder, with more people with a clue around the bubble? And less donks in the early levels.

Isn't 15% at the 55s considered pretty good, especially for 8-tabling?

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I don't have any answers to your questions but I have a question of my own.

You have lots of 20s and 30s under your belt from before. How many games of 20s and how many 30s did you play and what was your ROI at each level?

I am in the 20s (8 tabling them now) and will soon move to the 30s most likely. How did you find the play in the 30s compared to the 20s and 50s?

Thanks.

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I don't have the exact information. But I think I played 1000 20s and 2000 30s. Or perhaps 2500 30s. My ROI for both was about 27-28%.

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Could it be something in my style of play that thouroughly crushes the $30s, but is a leak at the $50s?

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Maybe the $50s are just harder, with more people with a clue around the bubble? And less donks in the early levels.

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Well, sure they're harder. But shouldn't someone who crushes the $30s like myself be able to make more per hour at the $50s? I'm saying that the ROI hit shouldn't be large enough to make playing $30s more profitable. Why I'm acheiving this must be because of (a) variance or (b) a leak that shows itself in this level jump.

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Isn't 15% at the 55s considered pretty good, especially for 8-tabling?

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Yeah, it's fine, although I'm 4-tabling. But if I'm making just as much at the $30s, why not stay there and learn to 8-table and improve?

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arent the 33s 800 chip sitngos while the 55s are 1000 chips? this makes the 33s play faster and thus increases ur hourly rate.

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arent the 33s 800 chip sitngos while the 55s are 1000 chips? this makes the 33s play faster and thus increases ur hourly rate.

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Yes, but I'm making more strictly on ROI calculations, regardless of hourly rate considerations.

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I seem to recall a bet between Irieguy and Zen about being able to make more money at the 33s than at the 55s?

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I don't think they felt that they were making more money/hr or anything...it's just that they were making very close to the same amount of money with much smaller absolute $$ swings.

Yugoslav

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Im sure you have looked at all the numbers. We all have spreadsheets, tables, or graphs we have done from the 10s to the 215s. Hell, I love to sit there and daydream about the day I will 8-table the 215's for a 10% ROI. Than I fire up another $10+1 SnG. 8-tabling the 33s with a healthy ROI is a nice income. But you will probably have maxed out the ROI at this level. So if you eventually want to earn more you need to get past the 55s or play MTT's or Ring to increase your income. I think it just depends on what you want now and want you want in the future from poker.

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I don't have any answers to your questions but I have a question of my own.

You have lots of 20s and 30s under your belt from before. How many games of 20s and how many 30s did you play and what was your ROI at each level?

I am in the 20s (8 tabling them now) and will soon move to the 30s most likely. How did you find the play in the 30s compared to the 20s and 50s?

Thanks.

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I can't answer about the 50s as it's been a long while since I was there, but a lot of the play at the 30s is terrible, I notice maybe one or two what I'd call decent players at the table, one or two tight (which isn't necessarily the same thing), and then a mixture of donks, LAG players, calling stations etc. Even the one or two decent ones have leaks for the most part (not saying I don't too, but theirs are certainly noticeable)

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I don't have any answers to your questions but I have a question of my own.

You have lots of 20s and 30s under your belt from before. How many games of 20s and how many 30s did you play and what was your ROI at each level?

I am in the 20s (8 tabling them now) and will soon move to the 30s most likely. How did you find the play in the 30s compared to the 20s and 50s?

Thanks.

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I can't answer about the 50s as it's been a long while since I was there, but a lot of the play at the 30s is terrible, I notice maybe one or two what I'd call decent players at the table, one or two tight (which isn't necessarily the same thing), and then a mixture of donks, LAG players, calling stations etc. Even the one or two decent ones have leaks for the most part (not saying I don't too, but theirs are certainly noticeable)

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Yes, I do notice a significant difference in skill level at the $30s. More of everything that is bad. Like, mini-raising with J8s from MP and then calling someone's significant all-in. Plays like that happen seemingly twice as often at the $30s than $50s.