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Vetstadium 08-10-2005 01:36 PM

Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
Fourth hand $33 I am BB with A4 off flop A 4 10 2 clubs 4 players in. I bet pot $60. I get raised to 160 I reraise to 325 he pushes, I call quickly. (I won the hand he had AQ but still wondering if too aggressive too early once again?) How would you play this?

Freudian 08-10-2005 01:39 PM

Re: Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
It would have to be very obvious I am beat on the flop for me to fold two pair (or bottom two pair with lots of players to the flop). Here I think you have to call. A lot of people play draws very aggressively.

Raemius 08-10-2005 02:05 PM

Re: Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
$33 buy in, you are possibly beaten. For me this is a toss-up.

beetyjoose 08-10-2005 02:07 PM

Re: Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
Obviously some of the read comes from the preflop play. I'm not sure what the action was preflop, so I can't help you there.

A lot depends on your level of competition. At this (buy-in)level, I'm calling all the way. It would have to be quite a bit higher stakes for me to consider folding here.

durron597 08-10-2005 02:12 PM

Re: Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
What was the preflop action? If he has AT I will pay to make him show it to me.

Vetstadium 08-10-2005 02:18 PM

Re: Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
all limped in.

schwza 08-10-2005 02:22 PM

Re: Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
[ QUOTE ]
What was the preflop action? If he has AT I will pay to make him show it to me.

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah

psyduck 08-10-2005 02:36 PM

Re: Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
all in as quickly as possible. don't slowplay it at all

Raemius 08-10-2005 03:21 PM

Re: Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
was the ace a club, or were the other cards clubs.

If the ace is not a club, he could have A-X[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], so has hit top pair with nut flush draw. And, he may hit his X, giving him 12 outs to beat you. 9 clubs and 3 X's. Or he's got A-T, or 4-4 and puts you on the flush draw. I think I'm folding this.

flytrap 08-10-2005 03:26 PM

Re: Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
You're listing one of the worst-cases, which you're still a slight favorite against. You can't possibly fold this in a low buy-in SnG unless you really know the player, and how often is that is the revolving door world of SnGs?

jgunnip 08-10-2005 05:22 PM

Re: Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
I think your hand is good a very high percenatge of the time here as opposed to say a J 8 6 board where you hit with J6 or 86 or something like that. While you're still going to be good most of the time, I think high resistance on a weak board like that generally means more strength than on a board where than is an ace present. I play your hand the same way, bet/call the all-in. Do others agree?

TheSalche 08-10-2005 05:26 PM

Re: Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
i almost knocked a guy out on a board with A45 two diamonds when he had A4 and i had the set of 5's ... i wish i had of knocked him out too cause he came back to win it [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Vetstadium 08-10-2005 08:37 PM

Re: Too early for all in 2 pair flopped?
 
The Ace on board was a club that did cross my mind nonetheless prob still calling.


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