Three types of people
 

In life there are three major types of character based personalities, that one will probably fall into, these are to do with being a "success"

The meaning of "success" can be argued for days on end, but that is irrelavent to this discussion. Someone will be "successful" when they have achieved greater amounts achievements when given the same opportunites and forthcomings as another.

Number 1 - The loser

The loser is a person who is just that, a loser, has accomplished very little in life, and in fact may have caused harm to others in life, the two main reasons for somebody falling into this catergory are,

Hopelessness- Unfortunately no matter how much this person tries they were simply not given the advantages of most other people, ie, they to not have the mental or physical apptitude. Life for these people will be very disapointing, as many of them will try as hard as they can to be successful, but will never get there living a very unfullfilling and upsetting life.

Laziness- These poaple are the people who always look for the easy way out, and generally will take that easy way even if that means causing a hard way for others, these people will never become something close to successful as by definition, there catergory will not allow them, as it will take effort and determination, I havent seen many lazy people with these acquirements.

Number 2- Mr Ordinary

Most of the people in this catergory do enough to get by in life, alot of them have at least a small amount of ability or talent that is enough to make them close to successful, how ever they would have to work very hard to achieve this. The reason these people dont reach that next level as they prefer to be in the norm, when you become successful you gain extra pressures and responsibilties, it takes effort to maintain the successful catergorie, and it also may mean being the odd one out. It is this "odd one out" feeling that scares these people into staying where they are. It is also a fear of failure, as many will find the fear in failure greater than the enjoyment of success, and therefore chose not to compete, allowing them not to fail.

Number 3- The succesor

This person will not take losing, in fact they hate it, they will do everything to get ahead, and will not stop until they have reached the level of success they desire. They are hard working and generally have been blessed with enough mental or physical apptitude, to be success in any field they wish. It is very difficult to be in this catergorie as it comes with many pressures, the pressure of maintaining your success, The fear of failure is small if not non exsistant. They gain great enjoyment from success and will not stop until they achieve it.

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The world is won by those who let it go. By letting it all go, it all gets done.

But, if you try and try, then the world is beyond the winning.

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I don't think this is a useful or an accurate way to classify people. I suppose if you are in human resources or something you might think like this, but otherwise you couldn't be more wrong.
How can you call someone a failure for not meeting some artificially contrived standards imposed by society? If you took a homocidal maniac out of this society and placed him in the US special forces, he might be considered a "success". If you took a schizophrenic person out of this society andn placed them in some tribe in the past, they might serve a function as a shaman or something and be considered a "success."
Success and failure have nothing to do with your personality, because the meaning of success and failure changes with time, and circumstances.
Lets say you took a civil engineer, and placed him in Oz (the tv show). Would he be successful? I doubt it. I bet he would end up someone's prag. His abilities and personality are out of place in prison. However, the abilities and personality of a violent, paranoid criminal drug addict like Adebisi might lead them to be considered a "success."

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Someone just read "The Idiots Guide to Taoism"

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The world is won by those who let it go. By letting it all go, it all gets done.

But, if you try and try, then the world is beyond the winning.

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lets just say this:

the two most common human traits/characteristics are fear and laziness.

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Know yourself
Control yourself
Give yourself

-- Cicero




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The meaning of "success" can be argued for days on end, but that is irrelavent to this discussion. Someone will be "successful" when they have achieved greater amounts achievements when given the same opportunites and forthcomings as another.


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quite right about "succesful" being ambigious

same for "achievements"

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Lazy people are sometimes more successful at being happy. Also, lazy is really just a word that the capitalists invented to chastise proponents of the 8 hour work day, or people who want to be paid an adequate wage, etc.

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Lazy people are sometimes more successful at being happy. Also, lazy is really just a word that the capitalists invented to chastise proponents of the 8 hour work day, or people who want to be paid an adequate wage, etc.

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i think people jobs working cubicle 8 hour/day monkey jobs are lazy. i guess it depends on your definition.

people would call me lazy. i call them lazy(and stupid).

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i don't understand the point of your post.

frankly, this is oversimplified and somewhat juvenile. what are you trying to achieve by posting this? there's no question in there that i see. do you want to harvest a collection of agreements with your class system, in which you undoubtably fall under the "succesor" class? sorry if this sounds harsh, but i just don't "get it".

IMHO (some letters you may want to be attaching to things like this) success is achieving the goals that you set out for yourself. the goals that a person chooses is their choice. just because you look at your neighor and think "gee, that lifes not for me" doesn't make him a loser or a "mr ordinary" that character flaws that prevent him from being a success.

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Someone just read "The Idiots Guide to Taoism"

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The world is won by those who let it go. By letting it all go, it all gets done.

But, if you try and try, then the world is beyond the winning.

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Hey brother, take it wherever you can get it.

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This looks like a really bad motivational speech to me. One of those ones that I sleep through when we get them at work.

You cannot possibly define success in such vanilla terms. Not only are there many different measures of success, but each of them are completely arbitrary in measure. The word 'success' can only be applied to a particular task or goal, not to a life.

Maybe you could define a success a someone who consistently meets their own goals. In that case many of the most brilliant and wealthy people in the world would technically be failures, while the perennial underachievers who never reach for a goal not clearly within their grasp would qualify as the biggest successes.

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The world can be divided into two types of people: Those who divide the world into two types of people, and those who don't.

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Isn't this straight out of Ken Warren Teaches Winning in Life ?

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The world is divided into four types of people, each with four subtypes.

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read a book

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The meaning of "success" can be argued for days on end, but that is irrelavent to this discussion.

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No it isn't.

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Most of the people in this catergory do enough to get by in life, alot of them have at least a small amount of ability or talent that is enough to make them close to successful

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Define "close to successful".

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The reason these people dont reach that next level as they prefer to be in the norm

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Define "that next level".

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This person will not take losing, in fact they hate it, they will do everything to get ahead

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will not take losing to who?

It's pretty obvious that you are defining success as = lots of $$. It is the yuppie ideal of success, that thankfully went out of fashion back in the 1980s. There are many people who feel very successful without lots of money. Is a "Mr. Normal" who has a modest income and a loving wife and family, not a success in your book?

I'd define success as contentment. If you are content in your life, and with your choices in life, then you do not need to compare yourself to anyone else's definition of "success".

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I'd define success as contentment. If you are content in your life, and with your choices in life, then you do not need to compare yourself to anyone else's definition of "success".

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i think you can do better than this (actually, i think that i've done better than this [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]). Define success as setting goals and achieving them. if your goal is contentment, then your definition fits into mine.

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read a book

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why? he's already got life totally figured out, and has been kind enough to condense it down to one page and share with us. you should be thankful, not critical.

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I was always taught that the three types of people are those that can count and those that can't

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Actualy, there are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't...

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Everyone that has responded has completely missed my point, and has gone onto a tangent of what a success is, my view of success is whatever each individual deems as successful, i posted this as many of us fall into the second catergorie, though it might help. Gues not

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I thouht it was dicks, assholes, and pussies. Dicks [censored] pussies, but they also [censored] assholes to keep [censored] from getting on everything. Or something.

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Who are you to tell me or anyone else which category we belong to?

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Everyone that has responded has completely missed my point, and has gone onto a tangent of what a success is, my view of success is whatever each individual deems as successful, i posted this as many of us fall into the second catergorie, though it might help. Gues not

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if you wanted to say "many of us should consider spending the time to become excellent poker players instead of just good poker players, since in the long run we would make more money" then you should have said that. instead, we get sweeping and oversimplified declarations about the nature of the human race. if you have a point, make it. don't hint at it.

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Just one question:

"successor"?

WTF?

Sorry, I guess that was two questions.


Word to the wise - before attempting complex human analysis, you should probably learn how to write and spell.

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I would also suggest reading Victor Frankl's "Man's Search for Meaning" before attempting this sort of thing again

"[Man is] a being whose main concern consists in fulfilling a meaning and in actualizing values, rather than in the mere gratification and satisfaction of drives and instincts."

"What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him."

"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life - daily and hourly. Our answer must consist, not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual."

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IMHO (some letters you may want to be attaching to things like this) success is achieving the goals that you set out for yourself. the goals that a person chooses is their choice. just because you look at your neighor and think "gee, that lifes not for me" doesn't make him a loser or a "mr ordinary" that character flaws that prevent him from being a success.

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I have a friend who I believe, by nearly anyone's standards, would be considered successful. I asked him one day if he felt that way about himself. He said something that I judged was very profound. He said "You know, others have judged me to be successful for most of my life. The day I began to feel that way about myself was the day I set a new goal for myself. That goal was and continues to be to have no goals". Considering what he's accomplished and how he's given of himself to other human beings, it's hard to imagine him saying that!!