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Apathy 08-05-2005 09:08 PM

An interesting 215 Hand
 
NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Trny:14578201 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: bu11etbuster ( $1155 )
Seat 2: Bison76 ( $1420 )
Seat 3: bgmaverick ( $925 )
Seat 4: soma71 ( $875 )
Seat 5: MikeJay ( $730 )
Seat 7: Hero ( $1175 )
Seat 8: ShayneMO ( $1555 )
Seat 9: ItsGonnaBme ( $975 )
Seat 10: RIVEREDuLMAO ( $1190 )
Trny:14578201 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Ad Td ]

ItsGonnaBme folds.
RIVEREDuLMAO folds.
bu11etbuster calls [15].
Bison76 folds.
bgmaverick folds.
soma71 folds.
MikeJay folds.
Hero calls [5].
ShayneMO checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, Th, 3h ]
Hero bets [55].
ShayneMO folds.
bu11etbuster raises [110].
Hero raises [245].
bu11etbuster calls [190].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
Hero checks.
bu11etbuster bets [250].
Hero calls [250].
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
Hero checks.
bu11etbuster bets [350].
Hero calls [350].


thoughts?

Ryendal 08-05-2005 09:25 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
Why don't you raise at the turn ?
I don't understand theses strange calls. Do you put him on a set ?
So he checked at the turn, and you flat call at the river ?

Ok, not so clear ...

microbet 08-05-2005 09:35 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
I think it would be a bit wierd for him to make the smallish raise on the flop with a draw and I think it would be wierd to just call your reraise with a set or better.

I put him on another 2-pair or TPGK. Possibly he has 33.

I think I lead out on the turn and barring that, raise.

If I have to pick a hand for him it would be A3 or AT.

freemoney 08-05-2005 09:39 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
if your gonna 3 bet the flop make it bigger.

Apathy 08-05-2005 09:39 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
I don't believe A3 is in my opponents limping range, A-10 is a possibility.

Apathy 08-05-2005 09:41 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
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if your gonna 3 bet the flop make it bigger.

[/ QUOTE ]

Give me a number.

microbet 08-05-2005 09:43 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
Do you think he limps big hands? AK,AQ,AA?

BDarch 08-05-2005 09:43 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
I like how you played the hand except the raise you put in on the flop. Why did you make this raise? Why make the raise so small?

DyessMan89 08-05-2005 09:47 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
if your gonna 3 bet the flop make it bigger.

[/ QUOTE ]

Give me a number.

[/ QUOTE ]

I dont think your raise was BAD, but I think I would have popped it to around 300. If he going to call that much, Id be almost certain he has trips. But once again, this is read dependent.

Apathy 08-05-2005 09:47 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
I like how you played the hand except the raise you put in on the flop. Why did you make this raise? Why make the raise so small?

[/ QUOTE ]

theres like 260 in the pot and i make almost 200 more to go why doesn everyone think thats so small? This isn't deepstacked poker you know.

Apathy 08-05-2005 09:48 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
Do you think he limps big hands? AK,AQ,AA?

[/ QUOTE ]

IDK first time playing with this person I think.

Ryendal 08-05-2005 09:51 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
The call of your opponent means what ?
I really don't understand that ...
I would push at the turn and if I lost, well ...

microbet 08-05-2005 10:02 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
Well, just for guessing what he has, he put a huge chunk of his stack into the pot on the river, when he could have checked. It would be a pretty dumb bluff, so I think he was pretty confident in the end.

Maybe a flush. Maybe he was being deceptive on the flop.

Apathy 08-05-2005 10:05 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
I think the hand should be played differently on the turn though, ignore the river action because I was not privy to that information when acting on the turn.

freemoney 08-05-2005 10:07 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
i make it 400 and if he calls i make a bet on the turn that commits myself like 325, alot of times i dont 3 bet when i should though, i guess im too fancy sometimes.

johnnybeef 08-05-2005 10:09 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
hes either on a set, A3 or Ax hearts, the most likely being Ax. You really need to lead the turn for more information as the flop call is a sign of potential weakness. if he pushes overtop once a non heart shows up, you are likely beat unless he plays ak in a very wierd manner.

08-05-2005 10:10 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
Im still at the 10s so take this fwiw,

I like the flop. I think ppl misread your flop raise, he raised 245 on top of the 55 he already bet, so thats 300. Villain has to call 190 into a ~450 pot. (hmm, mabybe it is too small)

I would see a minraise as a flush draw at the 10s, but here i think he has anything but. Or maybe he wants you to think that and he really does have a draw.

The turn is too tricky for me, that bet can mean alot of things in my mind. I might checkraise him allin and hope he doesnt have the flush but believes you do. Maybe you can get him to lay down a set. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

microbet 08-05-2005 10:12 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
Well, with the info up to the turn, it looked to me like his call at the end of the flop was a surrender. I think I'm ahead on the turn, but not so far ahead I want to play slow. I'm not confident he will bet for me either.

Ryendal 08-05-2005 10:20 PM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
Strangely I could put him on AQ. You will tell me, that he didn't raised preflop...

Iamafish 08-06-2005 12:15 AM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
I was thinking bet the turn...no one mentioned it, so what are the thoughts on that?

Apathy 08-06-2005 03:12 AM

Re: An interesting 215 Hand
 
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I was thinking bet the turn...no one mentioned it, so what are the thoughts on that?

[/ QUOTE ]

Well actually I think microbet is talking about betting the turn also, I posted this hand kinda hoping people would all say bet the turn. i feel like that was the proper play.


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